User Posted October 9 Report Posted October 9 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: How would that be not independent? Is your goal to bring Ukraine into NATO? What exactly do you expect? Must comply with Russia under duress of war / loss of war != Independent I am indifferent on Ukraine joining NATO or not. They have every right to. I expect Russia to stop their war. I expect us to support Ukraine in their defense against Russia. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
User Posted October 9 Report Posted October 9 25 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I find it fascinating that in political discussions, you're quite rational. But when it comes to this...you go off the rails. Disagreement doesn't mean I have gone off the rails, and with your sycophant-level support for Putin and pushing his propaganda, you are far more off the path of being rational here than I am. 26 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Ukraine will most likely remain a country, only a little smaller than it was. Most likely, huh? Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Moonbox Posted October 9 Report Posted October 9 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Complete defeat would be the annulment of Ukraine as an independent country. I've never heard the Russians call for that. You did. 🤡 1 2 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
DUI_Offender Posted October 9 Report Posted October 9 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Moonbox said: You did. 🤡 Thank you. You just proved what most of us knew. Nationalist wants a Russian military victory, and would probably choose Putin and Russia over Canada in an actual war. Edited October 9 by DUI_Offender 3 Quote
Army Guy Posted October 9 Report Posted October 9 25 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Thank you. You just proved what most of us knew. Nationalist wants a Russian military victory, and would probably choose Putin and Russia over Canada in an actual war. More barking from the forums small yappy dog....you've accused almost everyone that does not support "your" narrative as a Russian cheerleader...NATO has slow rolled it's support from the beginning of this conflict it has plenty of time to send massive amounts of equipment and supplies,to over whelm the Russians instead Ukrainian soldiers are dying due to this lack of support..... It is this slow roll that has allowed the Russian to keep gaining ground....Support that the ukrainians have been begging for this entire time....I wonder what is going to happen "IF" trump gets into office ?... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonbox Posted October 9 Report Posted October 9 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Army Guy said: More barking from the forums small yappy dog.... Why don't you whine some more here about people using insults? FFS you are cringe sometimes. Edited October 9 by Moonbox 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted October 9 Report Posted October 9 2 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Why don't you whine some more here about people using insults? FFS you are cringe sometimes. Sorry moonpie but i'm starting to like how you roll, your my new forum hero....and i'm going to copy your style of posting because it adds SOOO much to the conversation. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Videospirit Posted October 9 Report Posted October 9 28 minutes ago, Army Guy said: More barking from the forums small yappy dog....you've accused almost everyone that does not support "your" narrative as a Russian cheerleader...NATO has slow rolled it's support from the beginning of this conflict it has plenty of time to send massive amounts of equipment and supplies,to over whelm the Russians instead Ukrainian soldiers are dying due to this lack of support..... It is this slow roll that has allowed the Russian to keep gaining ground....Support that the ukrainians have been begging for this entire time....I wonder what is going to happen "IF" trump gets into office ?... I don't know if you're a Russian cheerleader explicitly, but you definitely like Russia more than you like NATO. Maybe Russia isn't your favourite thing ever, but to approve of Russia's actions more than NATO's actions in regards to Ukraine shows a fundamental lack of moral character to the point you are a Russian Cheerleader in practice if not intent. NATO is not at war with Russia, they are under no obligation to send support to Ukraine, any support Ukraine receives from NATO is purely discretionary on the part of NATO's member states. To make the Ukraine war about NATO at all shows your state of mind is Anti-NATO in the first place. Personally I would like for every other country on the planet to provide their full support to Ukraine driving out Russia, but I'm not going to rant against countries for being less supportive than they could be when they have no treaties mandating they aid Ukraine. This was a one sided act of aggression on the part of the Russian state, and Russia alone bears the full responsibility for all consequences of Russia's actions, not Nato or anyone else. Anyone who desires peace in the world will want Russia to come out of this war with no officially recognized territorial concessions. Perhaps such people could accept a ceasefire with unrecognized illegal occupation of Ukranian territory, but if you think Russia should be allowed to lawfully annex territory for Peace, you don't want Peace, you want interbellum. 1 1 Quote
User Posted October 9 Report Posted October 9 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: More barking from the forums small yappy dog....you've accused almost everyone that does not support "your" narrative as a Russian cheerleader...NATO has slow rolled it's support from the beginning of this conflict it has plenty of time to send massive amounts of equipment and supplies,to over whelm the Russians instead Ukrainian soldiers are dying due to this lack of support..... It is this slow roll that has allowed the Russian to keep gaining ground....Support that the ukrainians have been begging for this entire time....I wonder what is going to happen "IF" trump gets into office ?... Did you miss the screengrab of Nationalist literally cheering on Russia? Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Moonbox Posted October 9 Report Posted October 9 (edited) 8 minutes ago, User said: Did you miss the screengrab of Nationalist literally cheering on Russia? Inconvenient information is discarded and ignored. We're just left with more donkey logic from our resident brick. Edited October 9 by Moonbox 2 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 4 minutes ago, Videospirit said: I don't know if you're a Russian cheerleader explicitly, but you definitely like Russia more than you like NATO. Maybe Russia isn't your favourite thing ever, but to approve of Russia's actions more than NATO's actions in regards to Ukraine shows a fundamental lack of moral character to the point you are a Russian Cheerleader in practice if not intent. NATO is not at war with Russia, they are under no obligation to send support to Ukraine, any support Ukraine receives from NATO is purely discretionary on the part of NATO's member states. To make the Ukraine war about NATO at all shows your state of mind is Anti-NATO in the first place. Personally I would like for every other country on the planet to provide their full support to Ukraine driving out Russia, but I'm not going to rant against countries for being less supportive than they could be when they have no treaties mandating they aid Ukraine. This was a one sided act of aggression on the part of the Russian state, and Russia alone bears the full responsibility for all consequences of Russia's actions, not Nato or anyone else. Anyone who desires peace in the world will want Russia to come out of this war with no officially recognized territorial concessions. Perhaps such people could accept a ceasefire with unrecognized illegal occupation of Ukranian territory, but if you think Russia should be allowed to lawfully annex territory for Peace, you don't want Peace, you want interbellum. I'm pretty confident in my stance of this conflict is not with Russia, if you have read all my other posts that would be clear. No where in any of my posts have i ever approved of Russia actions in this conflict, not sure where you get that idea, but it was not from my posts. As for my lack of moral character, well lets say i don't give a fu*k what you think, i served this nation for 34 years many of them with NATO, i know what side i am on...The fact that you judged me without even knowing me is telling. NATO has made some very lengthy promises about supporting Ukraine in this conflict...that it is not really lived up to, and has slowed rolled each decision it has made in the process. giving false hope to Ukraine, as they are totally dependent on NATO support. thinking Ukraine has gotten this far without NATO support is just a bad dream...This is all About NATO giving Ukraine false hope, that does not make me anti NATO, it is a criticism of NATO, but thanks for once again judging me without even knowing me... Being part of NATO , which has asked each of it's members to provide what it can, over lengthy talks and discussion with worlds leaders promising to do what they can...while there is no mandate as you suggest there is a lot of talk going on behind closed doors to give ukraine what it needs to accomplish one of NATO's goals, prevent Russia from controlling Ukraine...Can't do that without NATO support...your either in or out but don't sit on the side lines and jerk off like NATO is doing...Russia is responsible for the conflict in Ukraine, but without NATO interference who is going to stop russia form doing it again...It is one of the main reasons NATO exists today....to stop Russian aggression...telling the readers it is not NATO responsibility but Russia responsibility to hold in check Russia is silly. Just so you are clear, I want Russia thrown our of Ukraine, their military degraded to the point they are incapable of this type of conflict for decades to come...But that is NOT going to happen unless NATO steps up with the much need equipment and supplies. NATO is the only group or organization that could provide that level of support...Without that support Ukraine will become a Russian territory in short order...The only way a lasting peace can be achieved is for a complete Ukrainian win, and a complete Russian withdrawal... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 2 hours ago, User said: Did you miss the screengrab of Nationalist literally cheering on Russia? Has DUI actually contributed anything of any use to this topic, and do you really think Nationalist is a russia bot/ cheerleader here...considering all of the topics he posts in....but sure convict him on one post.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 2 hours ago, Moonbox said: Inconvenient information is discarded and ignored. We're just left with more donkey logic from our resident brick. In this case yes i did discard it....thats your speciality is it not...discarding or not reading. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
User Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 16 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Has DUI actually contributed anything of any use to this topic, and do you really think Nationalist is a russia bot/ cheerleader here...considering all of the topics he posts in....but sure convict him on one post.... One post? Since I joined this forum, I have been having this argument with him in about half a dozen threads. Where he pushes literal Russian propaganda, talking points, and other such nonsense to justify and defend Russian invasion. The fact that you can't just admit the obvious here is just silliness. 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Army Guy Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 1 hour ago, User said: One post? Since I joined this forum, I have been having this argument with him in about half a dozen threads. Where he pushes literal Russian propaganda, talking points, and other such nonsense to justify and defend Russian invasion. The fact that you can't just admit the obvious here is just silliness. Silliness because i'm not labeling someone.....I'm sure nationalist can hold his own water, and defend his own statements...thats one of the problems here on this forum everyone needs to label everyone... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
User Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 47 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Silliness because i'm not labeling someone.....I'm sure nationalist can hold his own water, and defend his own statements...thats one of the problems here on this forum everyone needs to label everyone... Silliness because first you ignored the stone cold evidence for what he was doing the first time and then after being called out try to play it off as just one post and still yet again now try to change it around to your not labeling someone after it was explained in even more detail what he has done. Calling him out for his posting is not merely labeling him. Your continued games with not recognizing this is the silliness. 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
DUI_Offender Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 (edited) 10 hours ago, Moonbox said: Why don't you whine some more here about people using insults? FFS you are cringe sometimes. I find putting him on ignore is the best way to go. Since Canada is a proud member of NATO, siding with Russia, a historical enemy of Canada and NATO, is a form of betrayal. If Army Guy did indeed serve in the armed forces, that in itself, is scary, and perhaps it is time to revamp our military, since it's been shit from the 70s onward. . Edited October 10 by DUI_Offender Quote
Videospirit Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 7 hours ago, Army Guy said: I'm pretty confident in my stance of this conflict is not with Russia, if you have read all my other posts that would be clear. No where in any of my posts have i ever approved of Russia actions in this conflict, not sure where you get that idea, but it was not from my posts. As for my lack of moral character, well lets say i don't give a fu*k what you think, i served this nation for 34 years many of them with NATO, i know what side i am on...The fact that you judged me without even knowing me is telling. NATO has made some very lengthy promises about supporting Ukraine in this conflict...that it is not really lived up to, and has slowed rolled each decision it has made in the process. giving false hope to Ukraine, as they are totally dependent on NATO support. thinking Ukraine has gotten this far without NATO support is just a bad dream...This is all About NATO giving Ukraine false hope, that does not make me anti NATO, it is a criticism of NATO, but thanks for once again judging me without even knowing me... Being part of NATO , which has asked each of it's members to provide what it can, over lengthy talks and discussion with worlds leaders promising to do what they can...while there is no mandate as you suggest there is a lot of talk going on behind closed doors to give ukraine what it needs to accomplish one of NATO's goals, prevent Russia from controlling Ukraine...Can't do that without NATO support...your either in or out but don't sit on the side lines and jerk off like NATO is doing...Russia is responsible for the conflict in Ukraine, but without NATO interference who is going to stop russia form doing it again...It is one of the main reasons NATO exists today....to stop Russian aggression...telling the readers it is not NATO responsibility but Russia responsibility to hold in check Russia is silly. Just so you are clear, I want Russia thrown our of Ukraine, their military degraded to the point they are incapable of this type of conflict for decades to come...But that is NOT going to happen unless NATO steps up with the much need equipment and supplies. NATO is the only group or organization that could provide that level of support...Without that support Ukraine will become a Russian territory in short order...The only way a lasting peace can be achieved is for a complete Ukrainian win, and a complete Russian withdrawal... The problem with you, is you look at this war and you go "It's Nato's fault", and that basically becomes your sole issue of focus to the point nothing else really matters to you and you spend almost every post you make blaming NATO for things. Tone is hard to tell over the internet, so maybe it's just extreme disappointment rather than dislike for NATO, but the effect of your actions is you basically work in favour of Russia because of your constant destructive criticism of NATO, whether you intend to or not. And you're also weirdly defensive of Nationalist, who has a freakish hard on for his fantasized Russian Victory. Neither of these things make you come across as pro Ukraine. Quote
DUI_Offender Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 1 hour ago, Videospirit said: The problem with you, is you look at this war and you go "It's Nato's fault", and that basically becomes your sole issue of focus to the point nothing else really matters to you and you spend almost every post you make blaming NATO for things. Tone is hard to tell over the internet, so maybe it's just extreme disappointment rather than dislike for NATO, but the effect of your actions is you basically work in favour of Russia because of your constant destructive criticism of NATO, whether you intend to or not. And you're also weirdly defensive of Nationalist, who has a freakish hard on for his fantasized Russian Victory. Neither of these things make you come across as pro Ukraine. His posts must embarrass the Canadian Forces. However, due to decades of under-funding our military, they dropped the standards, and now let any fool in. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 1 hour ago, User said: Must comply with Russia under duress of war / loss of war != Independent I am indifferent on Ukraine joining NATO or not. They have every right to. I expect Russia to stop their war. I expect us to support Ukraine in their defense against Russia. Why should I support them? Either of them? What skin do I have in this? None. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 18 hours ago, User said: Disagreement doesn't mean I have gone off the rails, and with your sycophant-level support for Putin and pushing his propaganda, you are far more off the path of being rational here than I am. Most likely, huh? Yes. Most likely. Do you really think Ukraine will regain the land it's lost? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 16 hours ago, Moonbox said: You did. 🤡 Ahhh...an old post made in anger. Indeed Moonbat, I did post that. And how many dead now? Ukraine has very little in the way of military age men now. Are you happy? Give you a thrill does it? And when this is all done, do you really think Ukraine will get all its original land back somehow? This war has been a colossal waste of time, funds and lives. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 (edited) 16 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: Thank you. You just proved what most of us knew. Nationalist wants a Russian military victory, and would probably choose Putin and Russia over Canada in an actual war. Ur a simpleton. You are completely incapable of rational thought. When this is finally over and if ukrain does lose territory, will you be man enough to admit you were wrong all along? 2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: His posts must embarrass the Canadian Forces. However, due to decades of under-funding our military, they dropped the standards, and now let any fool in. Your posts embarrass humanity so...ya... Edited October 10 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Army Guy Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 10 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: I find putting him on ignore is the best way to go. Since Canada is a proud member of NATO, siding with Russia, a historical enemy of Canada and NATO, is a form of betrayal. If Army Guy did indeed serve in the armed forces, that in itself, is scary, and perhaps it is time to revamp our military, since it's been shit from the 70s onward. . You should stick to something you know... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted October 10 Report Posted October 10 7 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: His posts must embarrass the Canadian Forces. However, due to decades of under-funding our military, they dropped the standards, and now let any fool in. You ever get tired of just lying to attract attention. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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