SHAME, INDEED!

[betsy]

Trudeau's going for..................... and, fanning the flames of  gender wars!

 

 

 

 

Why shouldn't biological females have an exclusive space for themselves?

Why shouldn't they have an exclusively categorized sports for themselves?

 

 

BIOLOGICAL FEMALES - pay attention!


Under the insane WOKE like Trudeau - the pride for being naturally-born female, is being ERASED!



Lol - kinda like Trudeau saying........................... a genuine cartier watch is exactly the same as a .......................

 

............"knock-off!"

 

 

 

 

You think PRIDE is only for particularly chosen groups?
 

You think, biological females shouldn't feel any pride for being born females?

Think again.

Edited February 22, 2024 by betsy

[betsy]

BIOLOGICAL FEMALES, listen!

 

Is Trudeau the  so-called "champion" for women?

Lol - he's so insensitive towards women!

 

Here are some of the video comments below:

 

 

 

Global news cut off the question posed by a Rebel News reporter to which Poilievre is answering in this clip. This same reporter had reported about a 50- year old intact biological male who identifies as a 13-year old girl and thus swims with and change in the same dressing room as these girls in an Ontario swim club. However, this chap who identifies as a 13-year old can drive away in his car no problem. Thus, the question is valid about safe spaces for women and girls.

 

Poilievre didn’t go off on the LGBTQ community! He was standing up for women’s rights!! Full stop!

 

 

Trudeau is the biggest emitter of carbon we have. Never shuts up.

 

 

 

Poilievre is correct about female spaces after all. Females who do Sports would most likely feel most uncomfortable getting dressed in front of males (Trans or natural )while in a female change room. Female Privacy and safety is paramount . But it is obvious that Justin Trudeau does not care.

 

 

 

JT just doesn't get it. The idea is to protect women's spaces and defend them from biological males trying to gain access to them for whatever weird reason, and as my wife's husband and father of a teenaged girl I am all in favor of that. Framing that as an attack on the lgbtq2slaq minority misses the mark. The question really is, what would JT do to protect those spaces, and so far the answer seems to be "nothing"

 

 

 

The VAST MAJORITY of Canadians agree with PP’s view - as it reflects our views. This PM is SICK … as are his blind followers. It’s no attack bonehead - it’s protecting our daughters and sisters from opportunistic perverts and deviants.

 

 

 

Lol - I wouldn't be surprised..........when Trudeau had  gone from being PM..........and moved on out of the spotlight...............we find out in gossip columns............

..................that he's got himself...........................

 

..................TRANSGENDERED!

Edited February 22, 2024 by betsy

[betsy]

Trudeau is fighting for LGBTQ.  Trudeau is fighting for Transgendered people.

Trudeau's showing, NATURALLY-BORN females are simply second-bananas when it comes to rights!

 

 

PIERRE POILIEVRE IS THE CHAMPION FOR WOMEN.

POILIEVRE IS FIGHTING FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS!

REAL WOMEN!

NATURALLY-BORN FEMALES!

Edited February 22, 2024 by betsy

[Guest]

Trudeau is a master at spinning. He's just given Trudeau ammo for attack ads, but I think so many Canadians are struggling so bad, that the out of touch Trudeau may put off some of his own by concentrating too hard on this.

[betsy]

6 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Trudeau is a master at spinning. He's just given Trudeau ammo for attack ads, but I think so many Canadians are struggling so bad, that the out of touch Trudeau may put off some of his own by concentrating too hard on this.

 

I think it's a smart move for Poilievre to answer the question pointblank.

Trudeau may try to spin it.......but it's a losing move if Poilievre had hedged away from answering. 

Previous Conservative leaders had done that - trying to squirm out from answering controversial questions  - and they get plagued by pro-Trudeau journalists!

By giving a definitive answer - Poilievre has put the matter to rest.

 

 

Furthermore.....

Poilievre shows he's a true leader.  He is DECISIVE.

Edited February 22, 2024 by betsy

[betsy]

Poll reveals Canadian trans policies that are out of step with public opinion

 

As duelling protests took place in Canadian cities over the issue of gender ideology in schools, a new survey from the Angus Reid Institute revealed that most Canadians support a middle ground: They favour equality and accommodation for trans people, but generally don’t believe men can self-identify as women.

 

Of respondents, just 35 per cent agreed with the sentiment — now enshrined via a latticework of federal and provincial laws — that “anyone who wishes can identify as a woman.” About the same number (34 per cent) sided with the notion that women are only those “who were born with female genitalia.”

 

The Angus Reid survey, which was released Sept. 19, also found a clear majority of Canadians opposed to the adoption of “gender neutral” terminology, particularly when it came to issues such as menstruation or childbirth. For instance, it is now standard for Canadian public health agencies to use the term “pregnant people” instead of “pregnant women.” Select health agencies have also adopted the term “chestfeeding” as a synonym for “breastfeeding.”

 

Angus Reid found that 67 per cent of respondents objected to this trend, agreeing with the statement that it “devalues the female identity in society.”

 

As far back as 2016, Angus Reid found more than 80 per cent of Canadians supporting the addition of gender identity to the country’s anti-discrimination laws, but respondents were more skeptical of a push to have transgender people use washrooms and change rooms that accorded with their gender identity, rather than their biological sex.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/angus-reid-poll-transgender-policies-canada

Edited February 22, 2024 by betsy

[Guest]

43 minutes ago, betsy said:

Previous Conservative leaders had done that

Thats precisely why Erin O'Toole did so poorly.

He flip flopped on his stance, and came across as a weak leader, as a result.

44 minutes ago, betsy said:

By giving a definitive answer - Poilievre has put the matter to rest.

I don't think he has. He opened the can of worms, so will be pressured to clarify the stance, tenfold.

The liberal media, will be like flies on s***.

He is decisive which is refreshing, however as he answers questions.

Trudeau evades them, unless they make him look good.

This doesn't hurt him any within the working class, small business owners, farmers and anyone struggling financially under Trudeau. 

I also don't think trans rights are high on most Canadians priority lists.

[betsy]

The shame is for Trudeau to bear!

 

Lol - what did he ever do that didn't end up in a clusterf***?

 

The lastest.................

 

 

ArriveCan technical issues violated Charter rights, alleges new class-action application

 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/arrivecan-technical-issues-violated-charter-rights-alleges-new-class-action-application-1.6778004

 

 

Who's going to pay for his fiascos?

 

T A X P A Y E R S!

[Nationalist]

Betsy...the majority of Canucks are right with you.

Pixie-Dust has failed. He's failed every Canuck. But his failure of women is as obvious as it is pathetic.

Rest assured that the entire world knows Pixie-Dust and are laughing at him.

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, betsy said:

Trudeau's going for..................... and, fanning the flames of  gender wars!

 

 

 

 

Why shouldn't biological females have an exclusive space for themselves?

Why shouldn't they have an exclusively categorized sports for themselves?

 

 

BIOLOGICAL FEMALES - pay attention!


Under the insane WOKE like Trudeau - the pride for being naturally-born female, is being ERASED!



Lol - kinda like Trudeau saying........................... a genuine carter watch is exactly the same as a .......................

 

............"knock-off!"

 

 

 

 

You think PRIDE is only for particularly chosen groups?
 

You think, biological females shouldn't feel any pride for being born females?

Think again.

There's something to what you say, but it can be worked out reasonably.  Politicians are making trans people into devils to scare folks not familiar with things, and therefore to get votes.  Not good for the community.

This is a biological woman.  Guess what? I would try to trust this person to do the right thing in terms of bathroom selection rather than following a law that was passed to get votes. You up over

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

rather than following a law that was passed to get votes

Poilievre never stated changing any legislation, and clearly pointed to this being an issue for the provinces.

Even asked the reporter, what could he do, federally. 

He just made it clear what his stance was. Nothing more, nothing less.

Most Canadians can see through the bluster.

Also, not all trans people have the benefit of being that passable. 

Common sense. If you are, you can easily enter washrooms and showers undetected.

I am willing to bet my job, that a high volume of those who get assaulted, are not passable.

Assaulting anyone is unnacceptable, which should also be common sense. 

[Guest]

Also, most trans women I have encountered in Canada, looked something like this.

I was in Thailand, and many of them look like supermodels, so go under the radar until they start speaking making it obvious.

When you're that passable, nobody will bat an eyelid at you swimming with girls. But it's not because they are accepting of you being trans.

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Poilievre never stated changing any legislation, and clearly pointed to this being an issue for the provinces. 

Oops.  I misread the headline, which said he backed a ban, to mean he would enact a law.

My mistake.  Apologies.  Mea culpa. Etc

Edited February 22, 2024 by Michael Hardner

[betsy]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

There's something to what you say, but it can be worked out reasonably.  Politicians are making trans people into devils to scare folks not familiar with things, and therefore to get votes.  Not good for the community.

This is a biological woman.  Guess what? I would try to trust this person to do the right thing in terms of bathroom selection rather than following a law that was passed to get votes. You up over

 

 

No - it's not that politicians are making out trans to be devils!

It's that...........................politicians like Trudeau.......................are INSENSITIVE to WOMEN! 

 

What part of "women do not feel comfortable or safe" with transgender  being in the same washroom with them," is hard to get?

Whether the trans is a pervert or not, is not the issue!

 

The issue is how women feel!

 

 

LOL - you guys can't stare or even whistle at a woman because of how it makes her feel - right?

 

And yet, Trudeau is forcing women to get over this? 

 

What a joke!

 

Edited February 22, 2024 by betsy

[Michael Hardner]

29 minutes ago, betsy said:

 

What a joke!

 

Why didn't you comment on the person in the picture?

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

There's something to what you say, but it can be worked out reasonably.  Politicians are making trans people into devils to scare folks not familiar with things, and therefore to get votes.  Not good for the community.

This is a biological woman.  Guess what? I would try to trust this person to do the right thing in terms of bathroom selection rather than following a law that was passed to get votes. You up over

It is not just politicians, the LGBTQ community has one of the largest lobby groups in the country, and not all of their policies are popular, nor is their in your face type of confrontations, and combine all of this together and there is going to be kick back from the general population....

The picture looks like a dude to me, and i really don't think it is the problem, that is having a female trans who looks like a dude going into the male washroom. there are pissers and shitters pick one, in this case who would really know, who would really care...

But having a male going into the women's bathroom is a little different..thats the stumbling block for some...

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

There's something to what you say, but it can be worked out reasonably. 

It probably cannot.   Politicans aren't making anything into anything. Politics is downstream of culture and society.

It's the psychotic die-hard "activist' types who shut down that conversation.  People were happy to have a discussion but if you wanted to talk about it you were transphobic and we needed laws to protect people against you and your speech and you should be cancelled etc etc.

They trashed and demanded gina cererro get fired for listing her pronouns ad 'boop beep boop' or whatever.

They spread hatred and anger INSTEAD of having a conversation and that inspired trudeau to run with the same tactic and they ate it up and kept supporting him.

So now that door is closed.

Now the other side is going to get laws to protect themselves against the 'woke left' and their insanely hateful and bigoted one sided ideology.

Parents will get rights, the cbc will get trashed, wait till you see what PP does for gun owners, and criminals will get locked up and nobody is interested in what your kind thinks about it anymore.

Something to keep in mind for the left in the future. if you close a door - it may not be so easy to open it again if you need an out.

[Michael Hardner]

11 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

1. there is going to be kick back from the general population....

2. The picture looks like a dude to me, and i really don't think it is the problem, that is having a female trans who looks like a dude going into the male washroom. there are pissers and shitters pick one, in this case who would really know, who would really care...

 

1. Some of the kickback is very understandable, and people are wrong to try and demonize anyone who resists this change in our social sphere.

2. So you're against the legislation. Good.

 

[Moonbox]

26 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

But having a male going into the women's bathroom is a little different..thats the stumbling block for some...

Why?  Surely if it's okay for the female-to-male trans going to the male bathroom, it could work the other way as well?  

What do you think would happen if this person went into the female bathroom?

I suspect nothing, and that nobody would realize this person was born a man.  

[Army Guy]

15 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Some of the kickback is very understandable, and people are wrong to try and demonize anyone who resists this change in our social sphere.

2. So you're against the legislation. Good.

 

No i'm not against the legislation, i think there needs to be a more common sense solution, women rights need to be protected, trans women don't need to compete in women's sports, they could form their own league...and women's washrooms do need to be monitored for who goes in and out..., having a 36 year old man that identifies as a little girl  does not make the definition of common sense...in fact how the others girls fathers allowed this to happen amasses me...how this is agreeable by the building managers/ town council is amassing... It only takes a few to spoil the soup...

 

[Army Guy]

9 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Why?  Surely if it's okay for the female-to-male trans going to the male bathroom, it could work the other way as well?  

What do you think would happen if this person went into the female bathroom?

I suspect nothing, and that nobody would realize this person was born a man.  

Well i agree in the females washrooms there are nothing but stalls, so no one would know what sex you really are, So i would say no issue....for me personally....as i'm not female i could not say one way or the other .  but the issues are at other facilities such as  a pool or gym where changing in the open , and every is visible to everyone, and changing in front of everyone is normal practice..., 

then yes people would notice the dangler hanging out for everyone to see...that would be a huge issue...and Canada is not that sexual liberated just yet so their is lots of push back....those are the areas that would need to be redesigned, or atleast looked at like the family rooms at most pools or gyms...created when dad has to help change his daughter because they are to small to do it by themselves or vice versa with mom and son....where there are nothing but stalls, nobody sees'  anything...except feet 

And like everything there are exceptions to the rules, it is these cases are getting all the attention, like our 34 male that thinks he is a little girl, needs to be shown the door...and banned from coming back, or risk a hospital stay...

 

[Michael Hardner]

30 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

1. No i'm not against the legislation, i think there needs to be a more common sense solution

1. Okay, so you're saying that the legislation needs to be revised, with more common sense added?

Do you want to keep the dude in the pic out of the woman's bathroom or not?

[blackbird]

50 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Why?  Surely if it's okay for the female-to-male trans going to the male bathroom, it could work the other way as well?  

What do you think would happen if this person went into the female bathroom?

I suspect nothing, and that nobody would realize this person was born a man.  

So you actually support biological males going into women's washrooms and changing rooms?   It appears you don't respect women.

13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Okay, so you're saying that the legislation needs to be revised, with more common sense added?

Do you want to keep the dude in the pic out of the woman's bathroom or not?

You seem very confused.  It is such a simple straightforward issue.

[Army Guy]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Okay, so you're saying that the legislation needs to be revised, with more common sense added?

Do you want to keep the dude in the pic out of the woman's bathroom or not?

Your picture is a guy , who should be using the mens washroom....i don't think there is much opposition to that from men...

Yes i do want to keep him out of the women's bathroom, YOU identified him as a man...would you let him use a womens public bathroom if your wife/ Girlfriend was in there...I think even you would have some alarm bells going off...and if there was shouting coming from the same bathroom would you barge in  to investigate, and if so why ?

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

1. Your picture is a guy , who should be using the mens washroom....i don't think there is much opposition to that from men...

2. Yes i do want to keep him out of the women's bathroom, YOU identified him as a man...would you let him use a womens public bathroom if your wife/ Girlfriend was in there...I think even you would have some alarm bells going off...and if there was shouting coming from the same bathroom would you barge in  to investigate, and if so why ?

1. Yes but a bathroom bill as proposed mandates him in the ladies room.

2. I don't give a F about bathroom laws.  They're stupid IMO.  I wait outside the bathroom when my people are in there.  I also live in a city, where you have to deal with a lot...