Trump Plays the Birther Card on Nikki Haley

[CdnFox]

21 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

this is nothing but elementary school playground gossip. Those who take it seriously and react vehemently to it are simply giving it life. 

What would it matter if they were immigrants? Born in the us and a us citizen, isn't that the qualification? They meet that,

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

A giant angry mob storming the Capitol at the same time when the election was being confirmed was just enthusiastic tourists really.

It was a mostly peaceful bunch of tourists, but in all honesty, they were armed with a fire extinguisher. 

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, Rebound said:

I don’t need to go to any length to prove there was an insurrection. I saw it live on TV on January 6, 2021. You are in denial of basic facts, that’s all.  You saw the videos, and you deny what your eyes show you because it’s not useful for your “team,” as if there is a team. 

You saw a riot on TV, and just like MH imagining to see a sea of swastikas and confederate flags, you imagine that you saw an armed insurrection. There was no such thing. 

FYI you were looking at videos that were edited by the Jan 6th committee to look bad. They actually added their own sound to videos to make them seem riotous. Without the sounds that they added, you can see that there's not actually a massive riot.

You are just a victim of propaganda, as usual. 

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Heres the thing about being on a team: Teams win sometimes, and lose other times. If your team only accepts winning and lies every time it loses, then you aren’t competing any more.  

Are you talking about the Dems'/FBI's 3 yrs of lies and crimes to overturn the 2016 election, or are you talking about the FBI's interference in the 2020 election? I just wanna know before I reply to that.

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This is why it is clear that Donald Trump wants a dictatorship.

^That^ is why people call you an id10t.

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A normal human being would have been mortified that people were violent on January 6.

Trump and Republicans all called for an end to the rioting, even while it was happening. They were properly unhappy about it.

Unlike the Dems:

1. they never lied to incite riots,
2. they never verbally supported violent riots,
3. they never pretended that violent riots were 'mostly peaceful protests'
4. they never supported to overthrow of gov't buildings
5. they never supported claims of sovereignty over US soil by extremist groups
6. they never ignored any attacks on the WH or any other gov't buildings
7. they never let rioters out of jail to reoffend
8. they never set up bail funds to get violent rioters out of jail 

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Instead, the son of a bltch is calling those people “Hostages.”  

No rioters were ever held without bail and without trial for 2 years before. No rioters received 20-yr sentences. 

The word 'hostages' is inaccurate, they're "political prisoners". 

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He said he loves them and that he will pardon them if he’s put in power.

They need to be pardoned. They're political prisoners.

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He says he will be dictator on day one and he believes he can commit any crime he wants.

Stop lying about he said, child.

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I hope he drops dead and burns in Hell for it. 

Your opinion is so important to me. Thanks for whatever that was...

[Nationalist]

LOL...Trump's still got all the limp noodles freaked right out.

"Did you hear what Trump said?"

You dumb sh1ts do exactly what he wants. You can't resist.

Ever heard the saying "No news is BAD news"?

If you REALLY wanted Donny-Boy to go away...you'd just ignore him.

But ya can't...can ya. Its habit now.

Fools and goofs.

"AHHH!!! TRUMP LIVES!!! HE SPEAKS!!! AHHH!!!"

[Rebound]

20 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You saw a riot on TV, and just like MH imagining to see a sea of swastikas and confederate flags, you imagine that you saw an armed insurrection. There was no such thing. 

FYI you were looking at videos that were edited by the Jan 6th committee to look bad. They actually added their own sound to videos to make them seem riotous. Without the sounds that they added, you can see that there's not actually a massive riot.

You are just a victim of propaganda, as usual. 

Are you talking about the Dems'/FBI's 3 yrs of lies and crimes to overturn the 2016 election, or are you talking about the FBI's interference in the 2020 election? I just wanna know before I reply to that.

^That^ is why people call you an id10t.

Trump and Republicans all called for an end to the rioting, even while it was happening. They were properly unhappy about it.

Unlike the Dems:

1. they never lied to incite riots,
2. they never verbally supported violent riots,
3. they never pretended that violent riots were 'mostly peaceful protests'
4. they never supported to overthrow of gov't buildings
5. they never supported claims of sovereignty over US soil by extremist groups
6. they never ignored any attacks on the WH or any other gov't buildings
7. they never let rioters out of jail to reoffend
8. they never set up bail funds to get violent rioters out of jail 

No rioters were ever held without bail and without trial for 2 years before. No rioters received 20-yr sentences. 

The word 'hostages' is inaccurate, they're "political prisoners". 

They need to be pardoned. They're political prisoners.

Stop lying about he said, child.

Your opinion is so important to me. Thanks for whatever that was...

If it were anywhere else, it would be a riot. 
But since it directly attacked the United States Congress and prevented them from conducting business, it was an insurrection. And it was compounded by the fact that many of the rioters were preventing the government from conducting business with the specific intention to prevent, delay, impede, whatever, the peaceful transfer of power from one President to the next.  
 

The simple fact is that, for the first time in our nations history, the transfer of power from one President to the next was not peaceful.  There is not way you can say that the transfer of power was peaceful, because the Congressional events of January 6 were part of he transfer of power, and they were clearly not peaceful, and that was deliberate. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

If it were anywhere else, it would be a riot. 
But since it directly attacked the United States Congress and prevented them from conducting business, it was an insurrection. And it was compounded by the fact that many of the rioters were preventing the government from conducting business with the specific intention to prevent, delay, impede, whatever, the peaceful transfer of power from one President to the next.  
 

The simple fact is that, for the first time in our nations history, the transfer of power from one President to the next was not peaceful.  There is not way you can say that the transfer of power was peaceful, because the Congressional events of January 6 were part of he transfer of power, and they were clearly not peaceful, and that was deliberate. 

Interesting. That would mean a lot of people have been charged with insurrection.

Name them.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

If it were anywhere else, it would be a riot. 

BLM attacked the WH. Claimed sovereignty over several blocks of US soil, in Seattle. They overran police stations. Laid seige to federal buildings and threw molotovs on them. Threw molotovs and shot fireworks at police. Ambushed cops and killed them. None of that was insurrection, but almost all of it fits the description, and it was organized.  

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But since it directly attacked the United States Congress and prevented them from conducting business, it was an insurrection. And it was compounded by the fact that many of the rioters were preventing the government from conducting business with the specific intention to prevent, delay, impede, whatever, the peaceful transfer of power from one President to the next.  

BLM took over police precincts and prevented police from entering large areas. It was all a lark. They injured dozens of police defending the WH. The POTUS had to hide in a bunker. 

Stop acting like 1 thing was monumental and everything else was ok. It was not ok at all. It was the exact opposite of OK. 

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The simple fact is that, for the first time in our nations history, the transfer of power from one President to the next was not peaceful.  There is not way you can say that the transfer of power was peaceful, because the Congressional events of January 6 were part of he transfer of power, and they were clearly not peaceful, and that was deliberate. 

The Dems'/FBI's joint crime spree against Trump means that there wasn't a peaceful transition of power in 2016 either, dummy. 

[Rebound]

54 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Interesting. That would mean a lot of people have been charged with insurrection.

Name them.

The Federal insurrection law is antiquated and probably would not hold up to modern judicial scrutiny, so the prosecutors chose other laws, such as seditious conspiracy. The law is only one sentence long: 

§2383. Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

The Federal insurrection law is antiquated and probably would not hold up to modern judicial scrutiny, so the prosecutors chose other laws, such as seditious conspiracy. The law is only one sentence long: 

§2383. Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

 

So you're saying there's no law against rebellion or insurrection?

Have you told that to maine and colorado?  

[Rebound]

26 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So you're saying there's no law against rebellion or insurrection?

Have you told that to maine and colorado?  

I’m sorry that you don’t understand how the law works, but it’s not my problem.  I spend a lot of time explaining how our legal system works, and you anti-Americans typically spit on it.  
 

When someone commits a crime in America, the prosecuting attorney has the discretion to decide whether to prosecute or not, and which crimes to charge.  The charge based on the law which closes matches the act,  as well as odds of successfully prosecuting using that law.  2383 is a poorly-written law, so they chose to prosecute Jan 6 criminals under different statutes. That doesn’t mean insurrection did not occur; an Act of Congress has already established that it has. 

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Interesting. That would mean a lot of people have been charged with insurrection.

Name them.

8 participants in the Jan 6th attempt to overturn the election were convicted for seditious conspiracy.

4 Proud Boys leaders and 4 Oath Keepers leaders.

How Seditious Conspiracy Is Different From Insurrection

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While they clearly overlap, “sedition” centers more on plotting and incitement, whereas “insurrection” is generally understood to mean the actual violent acts of an uprising aimed at overthrowing the government. That said, the federal law against insurrection, Section 2383, slightly blurs that line.

Your semantic games prove NOTHING.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

I’m sorry that you don’t understand how the law works, but it’s not my problem. 

I literally referenced your statement on how the law works.

So a) if it's wrong it's you who doesn't understand and b) that kind of seems like your problem

And that's no shock - it was already quite clear you didn't understand how the law works.

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Rebound said:

The Federal insurrection law is antiquated and probably would not hold up to modern judicial scrutiny, so the prosecutors chose other laws, such as seditious conspiracy. The law is only one sentence long: 

§2383. Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

 

So zero. Got it.

[Nationalist]

47 minutes ago, robosmith said:

8 participants in the Jan 6th attempt to overturn the election were convicted for seditious conspiracy.

4 Proud Boys leaders and 4 Oath Keepers leaders.

How Seditious Conspiracy Is Different From Insurrection

Your semantic games prove NOTHING.

So nobody. Bye...

[Rebound]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

So zero. Got it.

And that proves… zero. Got it?

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, Rebound said:

And that proves… zero. Got it?

It proves there was no insurrection. That the claim is a blatant lie used to cause emotional responses by weak willed nonses. 

[Legato]

4 hours ago, Rebound said:

I’m sorry that you don’t understand how the law works, but it’s not my problem.  I spend a lot of time explaining how our legal system works, and you anti-Americans typically spit on it.  
 

When someone commits a crime in America, the prosecuting attorney if a Democrat has depending on political consequences the discretion to decide whether to prosecute or not, and which crimes to charge.  The charge based on the law which closes matches the act,  as well as odds of successfully prosecuting using that law.  2383 is a poorly-written law, so they chose to prosecute Jan 6 criminals under different statutes. That doesn’t mean insurrection did not occur; an Act of Congress has already established that it has. 

You forgot those few words.

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

You forgot those few words.

No, I left nothing out. You’re just not bright enough to understand. 

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Rebound said:

No, I left nothing out. You’re just not bright enough to understand. 

ROFLMAO  - yeah, that's the problem here. For sure