PIK Posted January 9, 2024 Report Posted January 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Chinas navy could inflict serious casualties to NATO fleets...as for it's soldiers NATO troops don't have that much either those that do are few in numbers...besides you don't need much experience when you have 2.5 million, you just over whelm your enemy with sheer numbers...much like the early days of korea. Maybe on the troops, but their navy is basically new and I don't think as good as people believe. I think it will be in major trouble early in a war. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
WestCanMan Posted January 9, 2024 Report Posted January 9, 2024 On 1/6/2024 at 8:42 AM, Army Guy said: Do Canadians even care how our country is viewed by the rest of the globe? i know it use to, we were considered polite, nice, peace keepers, warriors, we were valued for our morals and values, a nation that could be counted on.... thats not how we are viewed today, Today we are considered free loaders, we have very little to contributed to global affairs, we can't live up to our defensive contracts, the list goes on and on... We are a nation that is so divided on most topics that it is almost paralyzing to get a decision made to move forward as a nation, it is like for the last decade we have been focused on petty problems that the world has passed us by... Does this problem have anything to do with the size of our military ? our diplomatic forces ? could our inter national reputation be directly linked to what our military is capable of ? I mean no sense of having a foreign policy if we have no means to enforce it, or does it ?... What benefit does having a military that has been castrated and unable able to accomplish any of it's expected duties? Does it even matter what the globe thinks of Canada.... i say this becasue Canadians seem not to care about any topic outside of their bubble , unless it is Israel then it is game on, but lets not talk about our own country...i got a hockey game to watch, and a beer to drink... https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/michel-maisonneuve-canada-doesn-t-matter-to-the-rest-of-the-world-and-it-s-our-own-fault/ar-AA1mxXtf?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=9755dd71406c4becb0f801bf5e4336e7&ei=101 Canada used to have a great reputation: we fought in several wars/peace missions and lost over 100,000 soldiers, none of those wars were for our own benefit we provided food, doctors and medicine to the poorest nations of the world for decades Now we're known as a bunch of whiny, disrespectful wimps, we've alienated global superpowers recently (Japan and India), and white people are considered the scourge of the planet because our own PM tells everyone that. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
eyeball Posted January 9, 2024 Report Posted January 9, 2024 52 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Your boys put us into this debt stream 🤣 Sure, why I bet Trudeau was even responsible for the Oct 7th massacre in Israel. Quote Conservatives are going to figure that out but i'm sure your not going to like it...so i'm sure taxes are going to go up, while we fix everything that the liberals' / NDP broke... No they won't, they'll make up excuses about the mess they inherited like they always do - then blame their own impotence on a Laurentian deep-state or some such thing. It'll be annoying I'm sure but I suspect laughing my ass off will take some of the sting out of it. You'll just get more frustrated. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 9, 2024 Report Posted January 9, 2024 1 hour ago, eyeball said: No they won't, they'll make up excuses about the mess they inherited like they always do - t You mean excuses like how trudeau doubled the national debt ? And how he cancelled the fighters that were ordered? And how he's run the economy into the ground so that gdp per capita (which is how countries afford things) is barely about luthiwania? Or how he's killed the oil and gas sector? Or ruined things to the point where people can't afford food or homes? Those kind of "Excuses"? Yeah - they might come up Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Aristides Posted January 9, 2024 Report Posted January 9, 2024 3 hours ago, eyeball said: 🤣 Sure, why I bet Trudeau was even responsible for the Oct 7th massacre in Israel. No they won't, they'll make up excuses about the mess they inherited like they always do - then blame their own impotence on a Laurentian deep-state or some such thing. It'll be annoying I'm sure but I suspect laughing my ass off will take some of the sting out of it. You'll just get more frustrated. Then we will turn into another Argentina, it's only a matter of time. More likely our creditors will tell us to get our shit together or they will stop buying our debt, like they did in 93. Quote
eyeball Posted January 9, 2024 Report Posted January 9, 2024 25 minutes ago, Aristides said: Then we will turn into another Argentina, it's only a matter of time. More likely our creditors will tell us to get our shit together or they will stop buying our debt, like they did in 93. We'll be in fine company given how much the rest of the planet is in the same boat. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Aristides Posted January 9, 2024 Report Posted January 9, 2024 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: We'll be in fine company given how much the rest of the planet is in the same boat. I'm only concerned about our boat. Quote
eyeball Posted January 9, 2024 Report Posted January 9, 2024 1 minute ago, Aristides said: I'm only concerned about our boat. I think there's really only one boat with a bunch of life-rafts and flotsam and jetsam drifting about. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Aristides Posted January 10, 2024 Report Posted January 10, 2024 33 minutes ago, eyeball said: I think there's really only one boat with a bunch of life-rafts and flotsam and jetsam drifting about. Only if you want to be. You are saying there is no such thing as self determination, or at least Canadians aren’t capable of exercising it. Quote
eyeball Posted January 10, 2024 Report Posted January 10, 2024 31 minutes ago, Aristides said: Only if you want to be. You are saying there is no such thing as self determination, or at least Canadians aren’t capable of exercising it. I certainly appears there's an abundance of circumstances and events that are beyond anyone's control at the moment. I admit that's a bit pessimistic but I think the hope it can all be managed, especially by a simple change in government is quite unrealistic. I'd definitely like to have more determination over things and you probably know what I mean - but its just another unrealistic hope. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Army Guy Posted January 10, 2024 Author Report Posted January 10, 2024 22 hours ago, eyeball said: 🤣 Sure, why I bet Trudeau was even responsible for the Oct 7th massacre in Israel. No they won't, they'll make up excuses about the mess they inherited like they always do - then blame their own impotence on a Laurentian deep-state or some such thing. It'll be annoying I'm sure but I suspect laughing my ass off will take some of the sting out of it. You'll just get more frustrated. I think your confusing me with that tinfoil hat guy Gaitan the terrorist, But it would be hard to blame doubling our national debt on anyone else other than the liberals, unless you have a source stating other wise... Well perhaps you could list all the wonderful things the left has done in the last 10 years...and if the conservatives just correct one thing during their stay in power they would have had a more productive term than the liberals... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted January 10, 2024 Report Posted January 10, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: But it would be hard to blame doubling our national debt on anyone else other than the liberals, unless you have a source stating other wise... No I'm just not worried about it given how the rest of the planet is in the same pickle. 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Well perhaps you could list all the wonderful things the left has done in the last 10 years... No one gets busted for pot now, one less thing right? And Pharma-care and Dental-care. 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: and if the conservatives just correct one thing during their stay in power they would have had a more productive term than the liberals... Really? Even I have higher expectations of the Conservatives. The fact it won't be the Liberals in charge will be a little refreshing but that'll be more a case of voter productivity than anything. Edited January 10, 2024 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Aristides Posted January 10, 2024 Report Posted January 10, 2024 12 minutes ago, eyeball said: No I'm just not worried about it given how the rest of the planet is in the same pickle. No one gets busted for pot now, one less thing right? And Pharma-care and Dental-care. Really? Even I have higher expectations of the Conservatives. The fact it won't be the Liberals in charge will be a little refreshing but that'll be more a case of voter productivity than anything. Ah pharma care and dental care, also funded by more debt. Quote
eyeball Posted January 10, 2024 Report Posted January 10, 2024 1 hour ago, Aristides said: funded by more debt. Apparently the size of humanity's debt is up to some $40000 per every man, women and child on the planet. It seems unfair that we can't just treat this like climate change and deny it all or talk, at best, about adapting or something - speaking of which, we can always tax the snot out of the rich. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 10, 2024 Report Posted January 10, 2024 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Apparently the size of humanity's debt is up to some $40000 per every man, women and child on the planet. It seems unfair that we can't just treat this like climate change and deny it all or talk, at best, about adapting or something - speaking of which, we can always tax the snot out of the rich. They did that in canada - both of those things. Now our quality of life has dropped from the top 5 in the world to about the 20's. Turns out it's about as effective as the carbon tax was solving the world's climate change. This is why lefties can't run the world. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Aristides Posted January 10, 2024 Report Posted January 10, 2024 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Apparently the size of humanity's debt is up to some $40000 per every man, women and child on the planet. It seems unfair that we can't just treat this like climate change and deny it all or talk, at best, about adapting or something - speaking of which, we can always tax the snot out of the rich. If we can always tax the snot out of the rich, why haven’t we done it? The 40 billion deficit already goes to pay interest on what we already owe and in five years it will be over 60 billion. That’s 60 billion in interest and taxes that buy us nothing. Quote
eyeball Posted January 10, 2024 Report Posted January 10, 2024 13 minutes ago, Aristides said: If we can always tax the snot out of the rich, why haven’t we done it? Because the mans to big...the mans too strong. Quote The 40 billion deficit already goes to pay interest on what we already owe and in five years it will be over 60 billion. That’s 60 billion in interest and taxes that buy us nothing. Yes, but just imagine how big the man will be... Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
cougar Posted January 11, 2024 Report Posted January 11, 2024 On 1/6/2024 at 8:42 AM, Army Guy said: Does it even matter what the globe thinks of Canada.... There is no "globe". There are countries that have political views of Canada and then residents of those countries, who based on whatever info they have, will form one kind of opinion or another. Most countries have their own s*t to deal with. Some are in deeper s*t than us. So how do you measure anything with a broken gauge? You can't and for this reason you shouldn't care. Quote
Army Guy Posted January 11, 2024 Author Report Posted January 11, 2024 8 hours ago, eyeball said: No I'm just not worried about it given how the rest of the planet is in the same pickle. No one gets busted for pot now, one less thing right? And Pharma-care and Dental-care. Really? Even I have higher expectations of the Conservatives. The fact it won't be the Liberals in charge will be a little refreshing but that'll be more a case of voter productivity than anything. No, the entire globe is not in the same pickle, the question is how much of that doubling our national debt was required, just take a look of each years debt load and tell me it was all required.... WOW, the pot card great....there is no pharma care right now, and dental care is only for the select few right now..nice try... I hope so, but then again we've all been fooled before....and i think every Canadians except the die hards are going to vote anything but the liberals and NDP... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted January 11, 2024 Report Posted January 11, 2024 9 minutes ago, Army Guy said: No, the entire globe is not in the same pickle Yup, up to everyone's ears just like climate change. 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: WOW, the pot card great....there is no pharma care right now, and dental care is only for the select few right now..nice try... Ok, as long as we're on the topic of the select few - the rich got a lot richer under Trudeau. Now what self-respecting right winger could possibly say nothingburger to that? 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: I hope so, but then again we've all been fooled before....and i think every Canadians except the die hards are going to vote anything but the liberals and NDP.. Oh it's definitely the Conservatives to lose. They've got it in the bag so don't worry about that. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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