A Catastrophic Climate ‘Tipping Point’ Is Imminent

[Aristides]

24 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Really ?

Well I guess I shouldn't be surprised.  They even try to say it's volcanoes...

They can't even understand something as basic as a carbon cycle so what do you expect.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

No its not.

It is a FACT that you have not responded to my question. Duh

Try again.

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Opinion.

How much data is needed for a scientific conclusion to become FACT in your mind?

[NAME REMOVED]

No matter what people do, it will not be enough to stop climate change until it is too late. I've known this for 30 years. People are too selfish to do anything until it directly affects them.  I was working in areas last summer where forest fires were out of control.  It was something I have never experienced in my lifetime, as for most days the air quality was worse than that of large cities in India.

 

[taxme]

On 12/15/2023 at 6:46 AM, Deluge said:

Sorry, not interested. You moonbats have been crying about climate change for over 100 years. It's time to SEE something not READ something, now kindly f*ck off.  

A great website to go visit is Mark Marano's alternative news website called Climate Depot. There, one will get the other side of the story that the climate crisis screwballs like Al Gore and Leonardo Decrapio do not want the rest of the world to hear or know about. Marano takes on all of those climate change crisis buffoons. 

I still look out my window every day and i never see any climate change crisis happening. Just the same old-same old. If the glaciers are melting then it is no doubt due to something else rather than it being a man made created problem. 

But unlike those alarmists fools out there, i refuse to get all worried and concerned over what i like to call the new Covid story #2 bullshit. All it takes is for the lying and fake MSM to start to get the gullible out there to believe that their is a climate crisis happening and a whole lot of them crazies out there will go scary on themselves and will believe that the world will end if we do not stop eating meat or driving fossil fuel vehicles.

And let us not forget about those terrible cow farts. Such silly and ridiculous nonsense indeed. Just another excuse to try and get rid of cows and get us to start eating bugs instead. Like phuk i will eat bugs. Why do so many people out there keep listening to the MSM?  ?

[Aristides]

Like I said, you sad sacks can't even understand a simple carbon cycle.

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

A great website to go visit is Mark Marano's alternative news website called Climate Depot. There, one will get the other side of the story that the climate crisis screwballs like Al Gore and Leonardo Decrapio do not want the rest of the world to hear or know about. Marano takes on all of those climate change crisis buffoons. 

I still look out my window every day and i never see any climate change crisis happening. Just the same old-same old. If the glaciers are melting then it is no doubt due to something else rather than it being a man made created problem. 

But unlike those alarmists fools out there, i refuse to get all worried and concerned over what i like to call the new Covid story #2 bullshit. All it takes is for the lying and fake MSM to start to get the gullible out there to believe that their is a climate crisis happening and a whole lot of them crazies out there will go scary on themselves and will believe that the world will end if we do not stop eating meat or driving fossil fuel vehicles.

And let us not forget about those terrible cow farts. Such silly and ridiculous nonsense indeed. Just another excuse to try and get rid of cows and get us to start eating bugs instead. Like phuk i will eat bugs. Why do so many people out there keep listening to the MSM?  ?

Or, instead of “alternate facts website,” look at the hard scientific facts published by NASA, who have charts showing average global temperatures over the last 100 years, and charts of the Arctic ice extents, Greenland’s glaciers, Antarctic ice, and more. So you can see for yourself whether earth has been warming or not. 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

A great website to go visit is Mark Marano's alternative news website called Climate Depot. There, one will get the other side of the story that the climate crisis screwballs like Al Gore and Leonardo Decrapio do not want the rest of the world to hear or know about. Marano takes on all of those climate change crisis buffoons. 

I still look out my window every day and i never see any climate change crisis happening. Just the same old-same old. If the glaciers are melting then it is no doubt due to something else rather than it being a man made created problem. 

But unlike those alarmists fools out there, i refuse to get all worried and concerned over what i like to call the new Covid story #2 bullshit. All it takes is for the lying and fake MSM to start to get the gullible out there to believe that their is a climate crisis happening and a whole lot of them crazies out there will go scary on themselves and will believe that the world will end if we do not stop eating meat or driving fossil fuel vehicles.

And let us not forget about those terrible cow farts. Such silly and ridiculous nonsense indeed. Just another excuse to try and get rid of cows and get us to start eating bugs instead. Like phuk i will eat bugs. Why do so many people out there keep listening to the MSM?  ?

You can never see the wind blow; all you can see is the effect on the trees, and buildings if it's REALLY STRONG.

IN FACT, the effects of climate change have been EXTENSIVELY DOCUMENTED in MANY REALMS.

You just aren't interested in the science and do NOT pay attention.

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Like I said, you sad sacks can't even understand a simple carbon cycle.

You mean the cycle that follows the money.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Legato said:

You mean the cycle that follows the money.

Are you really ^this dumb? Someone says "carbon cycle" and you trolly believe the subject is money? LMAO

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

No matter what people do, it will not be enough to stop climate change until it is too late. I've known this for 30 years. People are too selfish to do anything until it directly affects them.  I was working in areas last summer where forest fires were out of control.  It was something I have never experienced in my lifetime, as for most days the air quality was worse than that of large cities in India.

 

It's got nothing to do with greed or selfishness.

People need real alternatives.  You can say "don't drive a car' all you want, but i've still got to get to work in the morning.

Instead - they got a carbon tax. Why? Because the so called climate activists were more interested in virtue signalling and 'hurtnig' the 'evil wealthy' than they were actually dealing with climate change.

If we care about climate change, we would have been pushing for new technology that people could actually transition to. Development of new batteries, new carbon capture, new power.

And we woudln't have gotten arguments liek "It's not fair to ask china or hte third world to cut THEIR emissions!"   Fair? Is this a serious issue or isn't it? Is it a world catastrophe or not? You think global warming is going to stop because it's the right thing for it to do?

Sorry man. It's more about self delusion than anything. You were told you were a bad person, and if possible you were fired, for daring to say we weren't handling climate change right.

[Deluge]

12 hours ago, Aristides said:

Like I said, you sad sacks can't even understand a simple carbon cycle.

Sad sacks, you weepy moonbat? lol

Everything's fine outside. Stop being a diapered pu$$y and go get some fresh air.  

[Legato]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

Are you really ^this dumb? Someone says "carbon cycle" and you trolly believe the subject is money? LMAO

Follow the money and it leads right back to the climate alarmists. The largest alarms garner the most money.

 

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Follow the money and it leads right back to the climate alarmists. The largest alarms garner the most money.

 

That still does change the fact we are dumping billions of tons of trapped carbon into the atmosphere and oceans by burning fossil fuels. We can debate the best ways of dealing with it but doing nothing isn't one of them.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

That still does change the fact we are dumping billions of tons of trapped carbon into the atmosphere and oceans by burning fossil fuels. We can debate the best ways of dealing with it but doing nothing isn't one of them.

Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. 

The lefties all wanted to do the wrong thing - the carbon tax. THey said it would allow us to hit our targets no problem and that would bring the issue under control.  Conservatives said it wouldn't work but nope - thats what we're going to do.

And it didnt' work. And now we've lost a decade - and the public isn't interested in wasting more money so now nobody's going to want to do anything.

We honestly would have been far better off doing nothing.

[Aristides]

33 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. 

The lefties all wanted to do the wrong thing - the carbon tax. THey said it would allow us to hit our targets no problem and that would bring the issue under control.  Conservatives said it wouldn't work but nope - thats what we're going to do.

And it didnt' work. And now we've lost a decade - and the public isn't interested in wasting more money so now nobody's going to want to do anything.

We honestly would have been far better off doing nothing.

What is "the wrong thing?" I do think the carbon tax does have some influence on behaviour. How much is almost impossible to know so arguments can be made on both sides. 

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Legato said:

Follow the money and it leads right back to the climate alarmists. The largest alarms garner the most money.

So you are that dumb. Or just too dishonest to address the issue raised.

More likely it's correct that you don't understand the meaning of "carbon cycle," cause it's SCIENCE and you're that IGNORANT.

[robosmith]

6 minutes ago, Aristides said:

What is "the wrong thing?" I do think the carbon tax does have some influence on behaviour. How much is almost impossible to know so arguments can be made on both sides. 

One indicator of influence is how much people like CdnLiar b1tch about it. That shows it's having an intended effect of hitting wasters who drive gas guzzlers in the pocketbook. They'll drive less and might even consider fuel economy when buying the next vehicle.

[Legato]

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

So you are that dumb. Or just too dishonest to address the issue raised.

More likely it's correct that you don't understand the meaning of "carbon cycle," cause it's SCIENCE and you're that IGNORANT.

I have one here's a pic

 

[taxme]

21 hours ago, Rebound said:

Or, instead of “alternate facts website,” look at the hard scientific facts published by NASA, who have charts showing average global temperatures over the last 100 years, and charts of the Arctic ice extents, Greenland’s glaciers, Antarctic ice, and more. So you can see for yourself whether earth has been warming or not. 

So what if the earth warms up by a big two degrees by the end of this century. Two degrees will not cause all glaciers to melt away. And if the glaciers are melting, well again, it is nature at work. Why people you get all in a state of panic and paranoia over a few degrees of warming is beyond me. As a matter of fact, there will be more places that will be able to grow food longer if the temperature warms up, like in Greenland. 

But do not worry, alarmist, because there will be plenty of snow falling on those glaciers and in the mountains and cities in many parts of the world in winter time. Another 75 years from now you will be history. Life will survive and go on. ?

PS: Just remember that pretty much all of North America was once covered in ice and snow thousands of years ago, and It all just about melted away and no harm was done to the earth. 

Edited December 22, 2023 by taxme

[Aristides]

19 minutes ago, taxme said:

So what if the earth warms up by a big two degrees by the end of this century. Two degrees will not cause all glaciers to melt away. And if the glaciers are melting, well again, it is nature at work. Why people you get all in a state of panic and paranoia over a few degrees of warming is beyond me. As a matter of fact, there will be more places that will be able to grow food longer if the temperature warms up, like in Greenland. 

But do not worry, alarmist, because there will be plenty of snow falling on those glaciers and in the mountains and cities in many parts of the world in winter time. Another 75 years from now you will be history. Life will survive and go on. ?

Two degrees will cause a good portion of them to melt, they are melting at an accelerating rate already. The Greenland ice sheet is 2 miles thick at its centre.

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https://science.nasa.gov/earth/explore/sea-level-rise/

How much land will now be underwater? Some of the worlds largest cities are near sea level.

More places to grow food longer and more that you can't grow it at all because of drought, we are seeing that already in California and Arizona. 

Increasing economic migrations into more northern countries as a result. If you think there are too many people coming across the border now, that will pale in comparison when more southern countries have their economies collapse and become increasingly unliveable.

Screw future generations we will be gone, so party on.

Edited December 22, 2023 by Aristides

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Aristides said:

What is "the wrong thing?" I

I literally mentioned that in the next sentance. The carbon tax was the wrong thing.  There are other things which would have also been bad choices.  But it is often the case when facing a serious and urgent situation that people do the wrong thing and it makes things worse, and that is what happened.

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do think the carbon tax does have some influence on behaviour.

Well the purppose of it was to reduce carbon output.  We can look at the impact of that, and when you do so honestly you can see that it failed. BC had targets that it was supposed to achieve and that failed miserably, at best it slowed growth by about 5 percent and change, which is pointless.  Federally about the same thing - it did not achieve remotely close to what it was hoped to or what it needed to in order to have an impact.

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How much is almost impossible to know so arguments can be made on both sides. 

 

IF it's that hard to quantify then it was an abject failure.

WE can look at the targets it was supposed to achive and we know they weren't achieved.  Arguments cannot be made on both sides - it didn't do the job, and it's not going to do the job.  Meanwhile, it's chewed up the resources we would have had to put towards any other solution, both financially and politically.

And what's worse - objectively if canada stopped ALL emissions tomorrow - based on what the scientists are telling us today it would make no appreciable difference. We had to come at it from a different angle and we didn't.

So we've blown our chance i'm afraid. We bet on a carbon tax and it didnt' get the job done.

[Nationalist]

22 hours ago, Aristides said:

Like I said, you sad sacks can't even understand a simple carbon cycle.

Nor do we roll over and hide as easily as you sad little bags.

[taxme]

20 hours ago, robosmith said:

You can never see the wind blow; all you can see is the effect on the trees, and buildings if it's REALLY STRONG.

IN FACT, the effects of climate change have been EXTENSIVELY DOCUMENTED in MANY REALMS.

You just aren't interested in the science and do NOT pay attention.

So, where have you personally felt or seen any climate change crisis where you dwell? What big changes are happening around you that you have noticed already? Well, do you have any juicy climate change stories to tell? I await for one of them. ?

Many of those so called scientists and experts are pretty much on the payroll of the globalist elite cabal. Just because someone is supposed to be an expert or a scientist, does not mean that everything they say is for real. This is why we now have an alternative media that will question their expertise and verify as to whether they are telling the truth or are just plain full of it. So, did you checkout that website that i posted for you? Knowing you, probably not. Too much trouble, eh? 

It is obvious to me that you are also not interested in alternative science and you do not pay attention to what others may have to say about this so called climate change crisis. Aw well. 

[Aristides]

9 minutes ago, taxme said:

So, where have you personally felt or seen any climate change crisis where you dwell? What big changes are happening around you that you have noticed already? Well, do you have any juicy climate change stories to tell? I await for one of them. ?

Many of those so called scientists and experts are pretty much on the payroll of the globalist elite cabal. Just because someone is supposed to be an expert or a scientist, does not mean that everything they say is for real. This is why we now have an alternative media that will question their expertise and verify as to whether they are telling the truth or are just plain full of it. So, did you checkout that website that i posted for you? Knowing you, probably not. Too much trouble, eh? 

It is obvious to me that you are also not interested in alternative science and you do not pay attention to what others may have to say about this so called climate change crisis. Aw well. 

Floods in the Fraser Valley, a good chunk of the province burning down last summer. 100 year storms becoming 20 year storms. We have had two floods since the nineties which were supposed to be 100 year storms. Hotter summers with more severe fire seasons. They are all for real. What cave do you live in?

Alternative science, is that Iike is alternative facts?

[robosmith]

33 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Nor do we roll over and hide as easily as you sad little bags.

I'm sure that with your beer belly, it's near impossible for you to roll over and hide.