Muslim family accused of assaulting son for converting to Christianity

[Deluge]

Even the "Religion of Peace" can't help but produce Jesus trashing psychopaths. 

https://newschannel9.com/news/local/nashville-tennessee-mother-muslim-family-accused-of-assaulting-son-for-converting-to-christianity-middle-tn

[Michael Hardner]

Important news from Nashville eh ?  

I notice you never posted about the targeting of Muslims for Murder.

Not a Nashville story but multiple mass murders in Canada.

But if a Muslim gets a parking ticket in B***f*** Tennesse, I will count on you to report that k ?

[Deluge]

23 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Important news from Nashville eh ?  

I notice you never posted about the targeting of Muslims for Murder.

Not a Nashville story but multiple mass murders in Canada.

But if a Muslim gets a parking ticket in B***f*** Tennesse, I will count on you to report that k ?

You cover attacks on Islamics, and I'll cover attacks BY Islamics. We'll see which side is worthy of the most attention.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/three-dead-southern-philippines-university-gym-blast-media-2023-12-03/

[Deluge]

30 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Important news from Nashville eh ?  

I notice you never posted about the targeting of Muslims for Murder.

Not a Nashville story but multiple mass murders in Canada.

But if a Muslim gets a parking ticket in B***f*** Tennesse, I will count on you to report that k ?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67604591

[Michael Hardner]

Wow I get TWO responses....

You went to the Phillipines and Paris...  I went to London and Quebec.  

You are arriving on the scene with the conclusions that Muslims are a threat.  It's just another religion, not a virus.  Pew Research shows they lose their religion at the same rate as anyone and faster than some.

[Deluge]

33 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Important news from Nashville eh ?  

I notice you never posted about the targeting of Muslims for Murder.

Not a Nashville story but multiple mass murders in Canada.

But if a Muslim gets a parking ticket in B***f*** Tennesse, I will count on you to report that k ?

Wow, looks like we can expect more violence from your dear friends, the terrorists. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67624496

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

Wow I get TWO responses....

You went to the Phillipines and Paris...  I went to London and Quebec.  

You are arriving on the scene with the conclusions that Muslims are a threat.  It's just another religion, not a virus.  Pew Research shows they lose their religion at the same rate as anyone and faster than some.

Just try to keep up, Pampers.

https://www.9news.com.au/world/samuel-paty-beheaded-teacher-france-paris-french-students-convicted/4c7fa126-d526-4510-ac89-519fd3becee6

[Deluge]

Interesting read about Islam

https://www.usip.org/publications/2015/11/islam-religion-violence

[Michael Hardner]

Islam panic is 20-years-ago... go for Trans panic to be current ok ?

[Rebound]

35 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Interesting read about Islam

https://www.usip.org/publications/2015/11/islam-religion-violence

I hope we can all agree that Islamic terrorism is a real and actual threat.

But there are one billion Muslims in the world, and the terrorists are a sub-percentage of that. Your mistake is that you are equating the religion of Islam with terrorism. That would be the same as saying that all Christians are terrorists. After all, the KKK claimed to be acting as agents of God, so did Eric Rudolph when he murdered an abortion doctor. I’m sure you’ll agree that the terrorist activities that a few people committed in the name of Christianity don’t mean that all Christians are terrorists, right?

[Deluge]

6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Islam panic is 20-years-ago... go for Trans panic to be current ok ?

Islamic violence never goes away, and now we're getting a spike in activity because Israel is fighting back. I know most of you left-wing loonies hate it when Israel does the right thing, but that's your problem, not theirs. 

 

[Deluge]

11 minutes ago, Rebound said:

I hope we can all agree that Islamic terrorism is a real and actual threat.

But there are one billion Muslims in the world, and the terrorists are a sub-percentage of that. Your mistake is that you are equating the religion of Islam with terrorism. That would be the same as saying that all Christians are terrorists. After all, the KKK claimed to be acting as agents of God, so did Eric Rudolph when he murdered an abortion doctor. I’m sure you’ll agree that the terrorist activities that a few people committed in the name of Christianity don’t mean that all Christians are terrorists, right?

Where you're wrong is with the belief system itself. Islam is fertile ground for growing terrorism and violence in general. It's why so many zealots get onboard with Jihadists and its also why parents and relatives (like in the above story) have zero hesitation with exacting violence on apostates and unbelievers.

Christianity doesn't have a terrorist or violence problem because Jesus Christ teaches love and tolerance, first. 

The incidents of Islamic violence far outweighs the incidents of Christian violence. 

Edited December 13, 2023 by Deluge

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

Where you're wrong is with the belief system itself. Islam is fertile ground for growing terrorism and violence in general. It's why so many zealots get onboard with Jihadists and its also why parents and relatives (like in the above story) have zero hesitation with exacting violence on apostates and unbelievers.

Christianity doesn't have a terrorist or violence problem because Jesus Christ teaches love and tolerance, first. 

The incidents of Islamic violence far outweighs the incidents of Christian violence. 

We agree that there is a serious Islamist terrorism problem, and that Iran sponsors much of it. 
 

But I don’t think it’s the religion itself.  There are religious extremists in every religion. Islam has it the worst by far, but I blame the bad people, not the philosophy itself.  

[Hodad]

15 minutes ago, Rebound said:

We agree that there is a serious Islamist terrorism problem, and that Iran sponsors much of it. 
 

But I don’t think it’s the religion itself.  There are religious extremists in every religion. Islam has it the worst by far, but I blame the bad people, not the philosophy itself.  

Terrorism doesn't really have anything to do with the religion. Terrorism is just one manifestation of violence, and usually the acts are on a small, guerilla scale because the actors simply lack the resources to do more. They don't have a powerful military with a global reach, so they become terrorists. We do have that military, so we conduct military operations. 

If we really want to categorize acts of violence as inherent to the religions of the perpetrators (we shouldn't) I don't think it will look good for Christianity. I suspect Christians have killed vastly more Muslims than Muslims have killed Christians. Even per capita.

 

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Important news from Nashville eh ?  

I notice you never posted about the targeting of Muslims for Murder.

Not a Nashville story but multiple mass murders in Canada.

WTF are you even talking about now? 

Where are muslims being targeted for murder? 

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Islam panic is 20-years-ago... go for Trans panic to be current ok ?

Muslims committed 9 terrorist attacks here in the last 9 years. They killed 18 people. 

And TBH, we hardly had any terrorist attacks by muslims here 20 years ago. 

You're completely off your rocker. 

[Rebound]

2 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Terrorism doesn't really have anything to do with the religion. Terrorism is just one manifestation of violence, and usually the acts are on a small, guerilla scale because the actors simply lack the resources to do more. They don't have a powerful military with a global reach, so they become terrorists. We do have that military, so we conduct military operations. 

If we really want to categorize acts of violence as inherent to the religions of the perpetrators (we shouldn't) I don't think it will look good for Christianity. I suspect Christians have killed vastly more Muslims than Muslims have killed Christians. Even per capita.

 

I’m afraid I have to disagree. 
The most obvious case is Iran. It is an Islamic Republic (their name, not mine). Their supreme leader is a religious leader. And they are sponsors of terrorism.  They don’t just supply AK-47’s, they’re providing the rockets that Yemeni rebels fire at Saudi Arabia and now, at US warships. 
 

People used Christianity to justify centuries of warfare, they used it to justify slavery and the persecution of the American Indian. But while Christianity has greatly evolved, major, nation-wide swaths of Islam have not evolved. 
 

I should point out that this is all the more reason to hasten our transition to alternative energy, because oil funds terrorism. 

[Legato]

32 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Terrorism doesn't really have anything to do with the religion. Terrorism is just one manifestation of violence, and usually the acts are on a small, guerilla scale because the actors simply lack the resources to do more. They don't have a powerful military with a global reach, so they become terrorists. We do have that military, so we conduct military operations. 

If we really want to categorize acts of violence as inherent to the religions of the perpetrators (we shouldn't) I don't think it will look good for Christianity. I suspect Christians have killed vastly more Muslims than Muslims have killed Christians. Even per capita.

 

Some Madrassas are breeding grounds for Islamic terrorism

[Hodad]

1 minute ago, Rebound said:

I’m afraid I have to disagree. 
The most obvious case is Iran. It is an Islamic Republic (their name, not mine). Their supreme leader is a religious leader. And they are sponsors of terrorism.  They don’t just supply AK-47’s, they’re providing the rockets that Yemeni rebels fire at Saudi Arabia and now, at US warships. 
 

People used Christianity to justify centuries of warfare, they used it to justify slavery and the persecution of the American Indian. But while Christianity has greatly evolved, major, nation-wide swaths of Islam have not evolved. 
 

I should point out that this is all the more reason to hasten our transition to alternative energy, because oil funds terrorism. 

Our military has definitely evolved. We want their oil, and when we aren't getting our way we foment regime change, we bomb, and we invade. 

Oil funds terrorism. But it also inspires our "terrorism" of Muslim peoples. Their acts of terrorism aren't spontaneous or random. They aren't generally bombing, you know, Switzerland or something. They're attacking the US and other western allies because they see themselves as part of an ongoing conflict with these states. And it's hard to argue that they are wrong. There just happens to be a massive power asymmetry, so their fight manifests as terrorism. 

 

 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

WTF are you even talking about now? 

Where are muslims being targeted for murder? 

Illinois, for one.

6-year-old Palestinian American boy is killed in anti-Muslim attack in Illinois, authorities say

 

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Muslims committed 9 terrorist attacks here in the last 9 years. They killed 18 people. 

And TBH, we hardly had any terrorist attacks by muslims here 20 years ago. 

You're completely off your rocker. 

9/11 was really huge for you to have MISSED IT. Of course there was also a first attempt several years earlier.

World Trade Center Bombing 1993

[Rebound]

48 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Our military has definitely evolved. We want their oil, and when we aren't getting our way we foment regime change, we bomb, and we invade. 

Oil funds terrorism. But it also inspires our "terrorism" of Muslim peoples. Their acts of terrorism aren't spontaneous or random. They aren't generally bombing, you know, Switzerland or something. They're attacking the US and other western allies because they see themselves as part of an ongoing conflict with these states. And it's hard to argue that they are wrong. There just happens to be a massive power asymmetry, so their fight manifests as terrorism. 

 

 

It’s easy to argue that they’re wrong!

Here’s a map of the Mideast. So that itty-bitty-teensy-weensy spec is the cause of all their problems? Gimme a break!

Isreal is the only functioning democracy in the Mideast. These Islamic terrorist groups aren’t trying to build democracies. Look at all the Islamic states, like Afghanistan, Iran, Qatar… are they making their people free? Are people free to speak or worship or learn whatever they want? No. Only one nation in the Mideast has a gay pride parade… Israel. And I’m not trying to say this to promote Israel, I’m trying to make it clear that these terrorists are thugs. They aren’t after a better world, they only want a better world for themselves

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[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Illinois, for one.

And then there's London, Ontario, and Quebec City. But somebody beat up their kid in Tennessee, let's put that at the top of the list.

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

It’s easy to argue that they’re wrong!

Here’s a map of the Mideast. So that itty-bitty-teensy-weensy spec is the cause of all their problems? Gimme a break!

Isreal is the only functioning democracy in the Mideast. These Islamic terrorist groups aren’t trying to build democracies. Look at all the Islamic states, like Afghanistan, Iran, Qatar… are they making their people free? Are people free to speak or worship or learn whatever they want? No. Only one nation in the Mideast has a gay pride parade… Israel. And I’m not trying to say this to promote Israel, I’m trying to make it clear that these terrorists are thugs. They aren’t after a better world, they only want a better world for themselves

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Wrong thread?

The topic here was, to paraphrase slightly, "Islam is an evil, violent religion because look at all the terrorists who are Muslim."

And I made the point that Christians should probably not pull at that thread. Christians have killed vastly greater numbers of Muslims than Muslims have killed Christians. 

Again, the point being that if we're "judging" faiths according to body count, I don't think Christians are going to look very good. 

 

[robosmith]

12 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Wrong thread?

The topic here was, to paraphrase slightly, "Islam is an evil, violent religion because look at all the terrorists who are Muslim."

And I made the point that Christians should probably not pull at that thread. Christians have killed vastly greater numbers of Muslims than Muslims have killed Christians. 

Again, the point being that if we're "judging" faiths according to body count, I don't think Christians are going to look very good. 

 

You mean like the 1.7M who died in the Crusades?

 

How many deaths were there in the Christian Crusades?

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The Crusades (1095-1291 CE):

The Crusades were a series of religious wars meant to expand the holdings of Christendom and capture the holy city of Jerusalem. They were sanctioned by the Catholic Church, and were an extremely dangerous undertaking.

According to modern estimates, approximately 1.7 million people died as a result of the Crusades, which took place in nine separate campaigns

 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

And then there's London, Ontario, and Quebec City. But somebody beat up their kid in Tennessee, let's put that at the top of the list.

Your ignorance is legendary MH. 

1) If a family of Christians in Tennessee beat up their kid for becoming a muslim you'd be acting like it was an epidemic, proof of systemic racism, etc, etc. You'd act like everyone does it.

2) Beating people up for not being muslim enough is actually 100% normal in almost every muslim country. Women who don't wear a hijab are guaranteed to get beaten up (at the very least) in 20 countries on this planet. We don't have anything akin to that here. 

3) There are still 12 countries where they have the death penalty on the books for apostasy, and they're all muslim countries. But don't worry, the gov't almost never has to put people to death, because the civilians there will do it themselves.

Google "Stoned to death" and then click 'videos' if you don't believe me. People are still stoned to death by mobs in the ME/Far East/Africa. 

4) You leftards think of it as a serious crime if someone gets misgendered in North America, or gets called a 'gaf' (which is actually quite bad), but in the areas that you'd like to pretend are just ducky, gays are beaten to death, stoned to death, thrown off of buildings, etc. 

On the other hand, they are far more liberal than we are when it comes to having sex with children, right? Adults can marry children there and have sex without intercourse until their brides hit puberty (sometimes as young as 11), at which point they can do whatever they want with them. They can have sex with kids in Afghanistan and other countries, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi. 

[Rebound]

12 hours ago, robosmith said:

You mean like the 1.7M who died in the Crusades?

 

How many deaths were there in the Christian Crusades?

 

You’re going back 1,000 years. Not an apples-to-apples comparison. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

You’re going back 1,000 years. Not an apples-to-apples comparison. 

Yeah but let's not embark on a path to use logic in order to ascribe blame to a race, religion, or creed.

That's a purposeless and senseless exercise.