Crazies stab Derek Chauvin, the cop wrongfully convicted of murder after the lefties incited a race riot

[SpankyMcFarland]

 

On 12/11/2023 at 11:33 PM, WestCanMan said:

Tobin misrepresented 1) where the pressure from Chauvin's knee was, and 2) the prosecution also lied about the reason for Chauvin putting his knee there in the first place:

1) He put it on the back of the shoulder area, 2) like the policy manual said to do, not "because he was a racist".

Your whole version of the story is based on paranoia, stupidity, lies, the withholding of evidence, and Dem hate-mongering.

Baker did the autopsy and even he said that heart disease and drugs contributed to Floyd's death. Police policy for subduing people who resist arrest also contributed to Floyd's death. 

Your assertion that Chauvi's racism was what killed Floyd is just patently stupid, but that's also why it's your answer. 

I never asserted that Chauvin’s racism killed Floyd. I just never said that, did I?  
 

Again, you don’t seem to understand the importance of the video evidence here. I think it needs to be integrated with the pathology findings at autopsy to interpret what happened. 
 

Thirdly, you need to understand that factors contributing to a death do not negate a causal link between an action by a person and the death itself. Otherwise, we wouldn’t be able to prosecute a person for asphyxiating a victim who had underlying diseases, and that would be very bad news for the elderly. 
 

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by SpankyMcFarland

[Rebound]

On 12/11/2023 at 12:04 PM, WestCanMan said:

How would he know if he was having trouble breathing, right? ?

Aside from the fact that George himself said that he couldn't breathe, the coroner's report also said:

• When asked what he [Baker, the medical examiner who performed Chauvin's autopsy] believed caused Floyd's death, he pointed to what he called "severe underlying heart disease" and said Floyd's heart already would require more oxygen than normal. He said in the context of an altercation or restraint, adrenaline would ask the heart to beat faster and the heart would require more oxygen. He said the law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression "was just more than Mr. Floyd could take by virtue of those heart conditions."

 

Just so you know, doing something 'normal' at your job, in this case "performing the textbook protocols to someone resisting arrest", which results in their death,  due to 1) their own underlying health conditions and 2) the amount of Fentanyl in their body, isn't really "MURDER: 20 YEARS!"

Geez, who saw that coming?

Or because there were mobs demanding a guilty verdict.

FYI those mobss weren't demanding that verdict because of the post I wrote earlier. They already killed people and did $2B in damage. People believed them when they said that they'd riot again.

1) Was Chauvin a racist, Dr Spanky? Is that in Tobin's report somewhere? 

2) You’re not actually obliged to repeat low-IQ BLM platitudes anymore, yet here you are, to the surprise of no one.

Which textbook states that standing on someone’s neck for 13 minutes is the correct protocol?

[SpankyMcFarland]

I have no idea what Chauvin should have been charged with but I am convinced he was guilty of something. There is no doubt he caused Floyd’s death.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I never asserted that Chauvin’s racism killed Floyd. I just never said that, did I?  

Again, you don’t seem to understand the importance of the video evidence here. I think it needs to be integrated with the pathology findings at autopsy to interpret what happened. 

Thirdly, you need to understand that factors contributing to a death do not negate a causal link between an action by a person and the death itself. Otherwise, we wouldn’t be able to prosecute a person for asphyxiating a victim who had underlying diseases, and that would be very bad news for the elderly. 

You need to understand that Chauvin has a job to do, and that's as a cop, not as an attending physician.

His job was to get Floyd from the street to the station with as little trauma to Floyd as possible, and that's what he set out to do, using the proper protocols from his own police station. That's another thing that you have to understand. 

If Floyd didn't have so much Fentanyl in his system, and if he didn't have a serious underlying heart condition, he would have been fine. If he didn't resist arrest he would have been fine. Yup, more stuff for you to try to understand. 

Floyd put Chauvin into a position where Chauvin had to restrain him, and that is 100% on George Floyd, no one else. When you have Floyd's 2 contributing factors, you're rolling the dice every time you put yourself in that type of situation.   

Chauvin isn't "guilty of murdering Floyd to satisfy his own racist agenda", as he was tried and convicted of by the MSM within 24 hrs of the incident happening, he was guilty of "using proper police procedure on a man who was strong enough to resist arrest". 

Chauvin did what he was supposed to do and Floyd's body had more strength than his heart did. 

I'll just remind you that Floyd is the one with the heart condition. He should know better than to fight with cops when he has an issue that serious. He's also the one who did the drugs. He didn't let the cops know that he just ingested some drugs that may contain fentanyl. 

You're basically holding Chauvin accountable for not knowing about Floyd's heart condition and his fentanyl use. Chauvin had no way of Knowing, and Floyd didn't tell him. 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Which textbook states that standing on someone’s neck for 13 minutes is the correct protocol?

Trudeau's Martial Law Handbook has that in it, plus "Get 4 cops to hold them down, and 2 more cops, one on each side, to drive their knees into the sides of their rib cage". 

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You need to understand that Chauvin has a job to do, and that's as a cop, not as an attending physician.

His job was to get Floyd from the street to the station with as little trauma to Floyd as possible, and that's what he set out to do, using the proper protocols from his own police station. That's another thing that you have to understand. 

If Floyd didn't have so much Fentanyl in his system, and if he didn't have a serious underlying heart condition, he would have been fine. If he didn't resist arrest he would have been fine. Yup, more stuff for you to try to understand. 

Floyd put Chauvin into a position where Chauvin had to restrain him, and that is 100% on George Floyd, no one else. When you have Floyd's 2 contributing factors, you're rolling the dice every time you put yourself in that type of situation.   

Chauvin isn't "guilty of murdering Floyd to satisfy his own racist agenda", as he was tried and convicted of by the MSM within 24 hrs of the incident happening, he was guilty of "using proper police procedure on a man who was strong enough to resist arrest". 

Chauvin did what he was supposed to do and Floyd's body had more strength than his heart did. 

I'll just remind you that Floyd is the one with the heart condition. He should know better than to fight with cops when he has an issue that serious. He's also the one who did the drugs. He didn't let the cops know that he just ingested some drugs that may contain fentanyl. 

You're basically holding Chauvin accountable for not knowing about Floyd's heart condition and his fentanyl use. Chauvin had no way of Knowing, and Floyd didn't tell him. 

You're a shameless liar. As has been pointed out to you many times, Chauvin was not following protocol or training. He admitted that plainly in his own words in court.

Your parents obviously did not raise you right. If you can't have the decency not to lie about everything, at least don't lie about the obvious and incontrovertible.