robosmith Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 The Economist: Trump Poses the Biggest Danger to the World in 2024 Quote A shadow looms over the world. In this week’s edition we publish The World Ahead 2024, our 38th annual predictive guide to the coming year, and in all that time no single person has ever eclipsed our analysis as much as Donald Trump eclipses 2024. That a Trump victory next November is a coin-toss probability is beginning to sink in.Mr Trump dominates the Republican primary. Several polls have him ahead of President Joe Biden in swing states. In one, for the New York Times, 59% of voters trusted him on the economy, compared with just 37% for Mr Biden. In the primaries, at least, civil lawsuits and criminal prosecutions have only strengthened Mr Trump. For decades Democrats have relied on support among black and Hispanic voters, but a meaningful number are abandoning the party. In the next 12 months a stumble by either candidate could determine the race—and thus upend the world. The Economist has long been among the most rational of publications. Unlike the MAGA CULT. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted November 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 Voters must take Trump seriously and literally. The stakes are that high. Quote Trump may be a performance artist, but with his shocking provocations, he is telling us what he would do in a second term as president. That’s why taking him seriously and literally is required.The headline on the cover of the latest issue of the Economist magazine does not mince words: “Donald Trump poses the biggest danger to the world in 2024.” The alarm is twofold. First, that the former president could win the election next November; and second, what he might do if that happens.Presidential elections are often about many things. In 2024, the economy will be a factor for most voters. For many, immigration will be another. Abortion, too, will continue to be a motivator. President Biden’s record certainly will be a consideration, as will the incumbent’s age and perceptions of his capacity to lead the nation for another four years, until he is 86.But the Economist puts the focus where it needs to be, which is on the former president — what he did during his first term, including what he did to help provoke the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, and, most important, how much farther out he has gone rhetorically and substantively since then to preview what a second term might portend.The Economist summed up why a Trump victory in 2024 could be materially different from his first in 2016. “A second Trump term would be a watershed in a way the first was not,” the editors wrote. “Victory would confirm his most destructive instincts about power. His plans would encounter less resistance. And because America will have voted him in while knowing the worst, its moral authority would decline.”Trump has spoken openly about a second term as a time of retribution, when he would weaponize the Justice Department to go after his opponents. The Washington Post recently reported that he has identified individuals he would target for investigation, including a number who served in his administration. Among those cited in the article were former White House chief of staff John Kelly, former attorney general William P. Barr and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark A. Milley. He has also talked about going after Biden and his family.Whatever his campaign advisers say in a statement, Trump himself is not running away from some of what was written about a possible second term. In an interview on Univision a few days after The Post story said Trump might use the Justice Department to go after opponents, the former president confirmed that yes, he might well do that if he gets back into office.Trump’s rhetoric has become more extreme; it is language associated with authoritarian leaders of the past. The latest and most provocative came during a Veterans Day speech in New Hampshire, when he said this: “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical-left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections.”Those words quickly echoed across the country and beyond, reported by news organizations and replayed again and again on cable television. Should what he said be taken neither literally nor seriously, or has a Rubicon been crossed that, with an upcoming election, requires that he be taken both literally and seriously? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 Oh come on. Tell us how The Economist is leftist liberal media, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 I am still thinking that the fear of Trump is overblown and that a new MAGA government would be stymied in a lot of what they want to do. Firstly, they're incompetent. They couldn't change the ACA in four years, how are they going to dispose of democracy? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted November 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I am still thinking that the fear of Trump is overblown and that a new MAGA government would be stymied in a lot of what they want to do. Firstly, they're incompetent. They couldn't change the ACA in four years, how are they going to dispose of democracy? Having a more compliant DoJ will go a long way towards Trump getting revenge on his enemies. Sessions got fired for not acting as Trump's "Roy Cohn" and Barr quit when Trump demanded he get Joe Biden arrested and had his goons sack the Capitol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted November 23, 2023 Report Share Posted November 23, 2023 Translation - "holy shit he might just win - and he'll do to us what we did to him!!!!!!1 PANIC!!!!!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 3:36 PM, herbie said: Oh come on. Tell us how The Economist is leftist liberal media, I used to have a subscription to The Economist but it's like the butthole of leftard journalism now. Honestly, anyone who can't acknowledge what they've seen under the Biden administration has no business opining about what they think the future looks like. A similar story about the World Trade Center would go like this: "We watched the twin towers glide gracefully down, allowing sunlight to reach areas that were in darkness for decades prior. There was a bit of dust, and some folks were hurt, but all in all it was a really good day compared to the one before it." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted November 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I used to have a subscription to The Economist but it's like the butthole of leftard journalism now. Honestly, anyone who can't acknowledge what they've seen under the Biden administration has no business opining about what they think the future looks like. A similar story about the World Trade Center would go like this: "We watched the twin towers glide gracefully down, allowing sunlight to reach areas that were in darkness for decades prior. There was a bit of dust, and some folks were hurt, but all in all it was a really good day compared to the one before it." I'm sure there is a reason why you didn't cite a similarly ridiculous story from the Economist instead of pulling ^this one out of your ass. Probably cause there is NONE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herbie Posted November 24, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: I used to have a subscription to The Economist but it's like the butthole of leftard journalism now. I gave up asking ppl like you "How dumb can you get?" as they all take it as a challenge.... 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, herbie said: I gave up asking ppl like you "How dumb can you get?" as they all take it as a challenge.... Well of course they take it as a challenge - you've set that bar sooooo high that they feel the need to race to catch up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, herbie said: I gave up asking ppl like you "How dumb can you get?" as they all take it as a challenge.... 'cause you're the world champ. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 See what I mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, herbie said: See what I mean? Did you mean that everyone thinks you're a bit of an 1diot? Because that's what i'm seeing 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted November 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/24/2023 at 6:49 PM, herbie said: See what I mean? Seen it for a long time. My first posts here were interactions with WCM in which he invoked a logical fallacy and provided evidence that proved HIS CLAIM wrong. Of course it was he who called me stupid. When proven wrong, he put me on ignore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 It continues... posting links to editorial opinions as if they were facts that prove one's point. Non-stop whataboutism, straw men and red herrings. Ad hominem as well as outright lying claiming when you said the sky is blue you said it was red. What would a doctor know about medicine? A Judge know about justice? The attitude is prevalent, some people in my own town would say what do I know about electronics, I've only designed, built, programmed and serviced that shit for over 50 years. Still phone for free help finding the MENU button on their TV remote or Start button on Windows 11 though., 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, herbie said: It continues... posting links to editorial opinions as if they were facts that prove one's point. Non-stop whataboutism, straw men and red herrings. Ad hominem as well as outright lying claiming when you said the sky is blue you said it was red. Yeah - but we like you despite you being like that. Quote What would a doctor know about medicine? A Judge know about justice? The attitude is prevalent, some people in my own town would say what do I know about electronics, I've only designed, built, programmed and serviced that shit for over 50 years. Still phone for free help finding the MENU button on their TV remote or Start button on Windows 11 though., Well if you're as good at that stuff as you are at reasoned argument here - i'd say you'd be doing well to change their batteries Another useless post from you with more generic whining, completely unsubstantiated accusations and judging your betters. I can see why the people in your home town don't think highly of you and only bring you trivial problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 No what is actually sad is that you are one that could learn from what we're saying. Maybe actually contribute something to a discussion.If you actually wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 4:32 PM, robosmith said: Voters must take Trump seriously and literally. The stakes are that high. I see you're scared. Just remember...you libbies set the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted November 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 The Roots of Trump’s Rage Quote Brian Klaas, a political scientist at University College London, captured the remarkable nature of the 2024 presidential election in an Oct. 1 essay, The Case for Amplifying Trump’s Insanity. Klaas argued that the presidential contest now pits a 77-year-old racist, misogynist bigot who has been found liable for rape, who incited a deadly, violent insurrection aimed at overturning a democratic election, who has committed mass fraud for personal enrichment, who is facing 91 separate counts of felony criminal charges against him and who has overtly discussed his authoritarian strategies for governing if he returns to power against an 80-year-old with mainstream Democratic Party views who sometimes misspeaks or trips. One of those two candidates, Klaas noted, faces relentless newspaper columns and TV pundit ‘takes’ arguing that he should drop out of the race. (Spoiler alert: It’s somehow not the racist authoritarian sexual abuse fraudster facing 91 felony charges.) Klaas asked: "What is going on? How is it possible that the leading candidate to become president of the United States can float the prospect of executing a general and the media response is … crickets?" How is it possible that it’s not front page news when a man who soon may return to power calls for law enforcement to kill people for minor crimes? And why do so few people question Trump’s mental acuity rather than Biden’s, when Trump proposes delusional, unhinged plans for forest management and warns his supporters that Biden is going to lead us into World War II (which would require a time machine), or wrongly claims that he defeated Barack Obama in 2016?In Klaas’s view, newspapers and television have succumbed to what he called the banality of crazy, ignoring even the most dangerous policy proposals by an authoritarian who is on the cusp of once again becoming the most powerful man in the world — precisely because it happens, like clockwork, almost every day. A recent editorial in The Economist carried the headline Donald Trump Poses the Biggest Danger to the World in 2024. A second Trump term, the editorial concluded: would be a watershed in a way the first was not. Victory would confirm his most destructive instincts about power. His plans would encounter less resistance. And because America will have voted him in while knowing the worst, its moral authority would decline. The election will be decided by tens of thousands of voters in just a handful of states. In 2024 the fate of the world will depend on their ballots. Klaas of University College London concluded that a crucial factor in Trump’s political survival is the failure of the media in this country to recognize that the single most important story in the presidential election, a story that should dominate all others, is the enormous threat Trump poses: The man who, as president, incited a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol in order to overturn an election is again openly fomenting political violence while explicitly endorsing authoritarian strategies should he return to power. That is the story of the 2024 election. Everything else is just window dressing. Like Frum said, "If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”—David Frum" / X. AKA, like Hitler, Trump will dismantle democracy if elected a 2nd time. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted November 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I see you're scared. Just remember...you libbies set the rules. The FF set the rules, lDIOT. They were a compromise to get all the states to join. Liberals would have never created the Electoral College, because that is NOT "one man, one vote." Duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, robosmith said: The FF set the rules, lDIOT. They were a compromise to get all the states to join. Liberals would have never created the Electoral College, because that is NOT "one man, one vote." Duh No instead you just warp the law and lie endlessly. Enjoy the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted November 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Nationalist said: No instead you just warp the law and lie endlessly. Enjoy the consequences. The law is not being "warped" just because you don't know about the EVIDENCE. Duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 13 hours ago, herbie said: It continues... posting links to editorial opinions as if they were facts that prove one's point. Non-stop whataboutism, straw men and red herrings. Ad hominem as well as outright lying claiming when you said the sky is blue you said it was red. What would a doctor know about medicine? A Judge know about justice? The attitude is prevalent, some people in my own town would say what do I know about electronics, I've only designed, built, programmed and serviced that shit for over 50 years. Still phone for free help finding the MENU button on their TV remote or Start button on Windows 11 though., Oh goodie! More word games. Here I wanna play too. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/22/opinion/trump-danger-rage-psychology.html Enjoy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 5 hours ago, robosmith said: The law is not being "warped" just because you don't know about the EVIDENCE. Duh The law has been warped and its going to bite you limp noodles before this is over. Will anyone sympathize? I know I won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 17 hours ago, herbie said: No what is actually sad is that you are one that could learn from what we're saying. Maybe actually contribute something to a discussion.If you actually wanted to. LOL - dude you are one hell of a hypocrite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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