61 Attacks on US Bases in Iraq and Syria Since Oct 7th - Biden's Retaliation Plans Leaked - DO NOT SHARE THIS!!!!

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6 hours ago, eyeball said:

I think there's more you need to learn about ethics and principles like the ones demonstrated by friends of peace activist Vivian Silver who was killed on Oct 7th. 

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Vivian Silver was born and raised in Winnipeg. She was in Israel for nearly 50 years, trying to fight for equality for the Palestinians.  How do they repay her?  They murdered her, than burned her body beyond recognition.  What is ironic, is that the people in the villages had a greater percentage of civilians that worked along side, and wished for better living conditions for Palestine.

At the end, it did not matter. Hamas killed and tortured them anyway...since they were Jews.

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

Britain had no business making a promise like this to anyone without asking the people who already lived there how they felt about it.  Is there anything in the historical record that indicates this happened or did the Balfour Declaration also allow the subjugation of the locals with impunity? 

LOL.

I take it you are not familiar with the British.  Arabs have enough land. The truth is, that the Islamic religion religion cannot deal with failure. Ultimately, the British reneged on their deal with the Jews, and by the time the UN took it over, 2/3 of the population was Arab.  And still the Jews won the war.

That is what happens in wars. The victor increases it's size. It's been that way since the beginning of time. The Arabs should have just made do of what they had, but they keep starting wars. As a result, Israel now has control of the entire area. 

We also cannot overlook the fact that Egypt and Jordan have trapped the Palestinians from migrating, and are using the population as political pawns, to make Israel the bad guys.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

That is what happens in wars. The victor increases it's size.

Okay I got it, might makes right and it's a principle everyone should try to live by.

 

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Okay I got it, might makes right and it's a principle everyone should try to live by.

 

That is just the way it is. I am sorry if your pea-sized brain cannot comprehend that.

[WestCanMan]

20 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

lol....You have been brainwashed by MAGA propaganda. 

MAGA propaganda lol.

No one in the US has ever matched this guy in terms of hate speech:

Biden's presidency has been a drastic failure by every measure imaginable and it's just propaganda to say that Trump is the "hate speech" guy.

Trump is more popular among black males than Biden is now. Trump is continually gaining more and more of the hispanic vote. 

The only people who are still Dem voters are the ones who are so brainwashed that they can leave their car at home because they can't afford gas, walk past the tents of homeless people and step around the poop and zombie-state drug addicts, get to the grocery store and pay more for everything, get raped on their mtg payment, watch anti-Semitic protests, get robbed on the way home, and still say "Life is so much better than it was 4 years ago. Things were awful when Trump was president." 

Honest to God, your only criticism is "Me dont wike Twumpy". The whole world has gone into the toilet under Biden. Get your head out of your ass. 

[WestCanMan]

20 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

In your view, who are the oppressed people?

The people who are tethered to the lowest economic rungs of society because they bought into the Dems' hate and fear campaign. 

"Schools won't hire you. Cops will kill you because you're black. Look at all the guys who are successful now in Hollywood or as mega recording stars just because they grew up as gangsters." 

I bet they don't talk to their own kids like that. 

[eyeball]

8 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

That is just the way it is. I am sorry if your pea-sized brain cannot comprehend that.

It only has to be that way if it's what people really want.  It's good to know everyone has the option to get ahead violently or by force in case being virtuous about it gets in the way. You need or want something - just take it.

Comprende how that works?

[WestCanMan]

19 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

You sure have much to learn about history.

For starters, the British had promised a Palestine to the Jewish people in the Balfour Declaration in 1917.  Due to the rise of the Nazis, and Arab countries threatening to align with Hitler, and supply him with vast amount of oil reserves, the British repealed the Balfour Declaration, and introduced the White Paper of 1939.

The Jews had no choice but to do nothing, as war was about to break out.  However, by 1944, when it was obvious the Germans were about to lose, the Jews organised fierce resistance to the British. The Haganah (future IDF) was formed in order to combat British rule, and to attain statehood for the Jews, as promised. Guerrilla warfare for two years convinced the British to abandon Palestine, and had the region over to the UN.

In 1947, the UN Partition Plan was created, splitting the region into a Jewish and Arab region.  The Jews accepted the UN plan, while the Arabs rejected it. Once Israel declared Independence in 1948, Arab countries in the region invaded the country.  They lost.

Then in 1967 and 1973, the Arabs once again declared war on Israel. Not only did the Arabs not succeed, but Israel captured the West Bank (Jordan), the Sinai Peninsula (Egypt), and the Golan Heights (Syria). This is where the Occupation started.

It has been 66 years since the occupation began. Eyeball is clearly arguing in bad faith, but this is precisely what happens when a weaker enemy declares war on a stronger military.  The superior military usually wins, and usually gains territory in the process. This is what happened in the Holy Land.

I didn't realize that the whole history of the Jews and Arabs started in 1917. Thanks for clearing that up. 

Also, what was life like for Jews living in Arab states for the 600 years before 1917? What about life from 1935-'45 in the ones that sided with Hitler? Who was the Grand Mufti and whose side was he on? What did the Mufti think should be done with Jews? 

[WestCanMan]

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

Okay I got it, might makes right and it's a principle everyone should try to live by.

No, but when people intent on genocide lose, it's not generally bad. 

[Rebound]

On 11/19/2023 at 11:26 AM, Nationalist said:

This is all so stupid. The entire world knows Biden's response is to hide in his basement. I have to wonder what the average military grunt thinks of all this.

Biden is way better at foreign policy than Trump. I’m so proud to live in a USA that stands up for Ukraine. Trump would hand them over to Putin in five minutes. And Trump is too much of a pu$$y to just say so; you have to parse his mumble-jumble because he can’t even order a tuna sandwich clearly.  

[robosmith]

On 11/19/2023 at 8:26 AM, Nationalist said:

This is all so stupid. The entire world knows Biden's response is to hide in his basement. I have to wonder what the average military grunt thinks of all this.

I'm sure they believe your fantasy is made up. Just like your word tweenkie.

[CdnFox]

On 11/18/2023 at 1:50 PM, Legato said:

I hear Biden has appointed Long John Silver to his military advisory team. Also Silvers parrot was given a briefing on Iran's location of Itchycoo park.

"I'LL SHIVER THEIR TIMBERS!!!" he was heard to say.  Officials offered him a cracker and a nap.

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, Rebound said:

Biden is way better at foreign policy than Trump. I’m so proud to live in a USA that stands up for Ukraine. Trump would hand them over to Putin in five minutes. And Trump is too much of a pu$$y to just say so; you have to parse his mumble-jumble because he can’t even order a tuna sandwich clearly.  

Lol...ya Joe's a genius at foreign affairs. His surrender to terrorists proves that conclusively. 

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

I'm sure they believe your fantasy is made up. Just like your word tweenkie.

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[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...ya Joe's a genius at foreign affairs. His surrender to terrorists proves that conclusively. 

It was masterful.  Took them so off guard i hear many were injured tripping over themselves to go claim the gear left behind. That'll learn 'em! 

[Hodad]

15 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...ya Joe's a genius at foreign affairs. His surrender to terrorists proves that conclusively. 

I assume you're referring to Afghanistan, which Trump actually "surrendered" before Biden took office. A ticking shit bomb left for old Joe.

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, Hodad said:

I assume you're referring to Afghanistan, which Trump actually "surrendered" before Biden took office. A ticking shit bomb left for old Joe.

Well there you go. When your as deaf as a doorpost you can't hear the ticking. Joe musta been waiting for it to strike 8 o'clock. That's his bedtime.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Hodad said:

I assume you're referring to Afghanistan, which Trump actually "surrendered" before Biden took office. A ticking shit bomb left for old Joe.

well that's just such a blatant lie it isn't even funny.

 

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, Hodad said:

I assume you're referring to Afghanistan, which Trump actually "surrendered" before Biden took office. A ticking shit bomb left for old Joe.

Ya...right.

That's some interesting reality you live in.

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ya...right.

That's some interesting reality you live in.

Yeah, just regular old reality.

John Bolton and H.R. McMaster, two former Trump national security advisers known for their hawkish views, have lambasted both Trump and Biden for the withdrawal — though both have long been critical of the Taliban agreement.

• "Our secretary of state [Mike Pompeo] signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban," McMaster said on Bari Weiss' podcast. "This collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. The Taliban didn’t defeat us. We defeated ourselves."

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Yeah, just regular old reality.

John Bolton and H.R. McMaster, two former Trump national security advisers known for their hawkish views, have lambasted both Trump and Biden for the withdrawal — though both have long been critical of the Taliban agreement.

• "Our secretary of state [Mike Pompeo] signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban," McMaster said on Bari Weiss' podcast. "This collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. The Taliban didn’t defeat us. We defeated ourselves."

LOL...Trump surrendered...what a dopey thing to think.

Biden surrendered...in fact, he tucked his tail between his legs and ran away.

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

LOL...Trump surrendered...what a dopey thing to think.

Biden surrendered...in fact, he tucked his tail between his legs and ran away.

WTF is wrong with you? That's factual history, not an opinion. Trump (via Pompeo) met with the Taliban and unilaterally made a deal to leave the country to them and do a full withdrawal. There were about 13,000 troops in the country when Trump made the deal--enough to keep the Taliban in check.

After his deal with the Taliban, Trump started drawing down troops. He actually publicly announced that they would all be home by Christmas 2020, four months before the May date he agreed to leave, but they couldn't pull it off. 

Remember, this is a man who thought he would get a second term and would finish the withdrawal himself. By the last months of the Trump administration there were just 2500 troops in country and Taliban violence was ramping up. 

Biden came into office to find that there really was no plan for that final exit and extended thr final withdrawal date. That pissed off the Talies and there weren't enough troops left to keep them in check. So the Taliban started taking what Trump had given them and the exit turned into a shit show.

^^^Those are all facts. If you want to say that the US withdrawal from Afghanistan was a surrender to the Taliban, it's 100% true that it was Trump who did the surrendering. 

Biden also planned to exit Afghanistan if Trump hadn't, but Trump negotiated with the Taliban and removed the bulk of the troops. Frankly, it was going to end in some version of shit show regardless of who was in office for the final stage of withdrawal. The Taliban never had any intention of doing anything other than retaking the country. They escalated violence while Trump was still in the white house. The only way to reassert control would have been surging troops back in, and neither Biden nor Trump was going to do that.

I'm not sure how you missed all that recent history, but next time you talk about us "surrending" you'll know the guy you're talking about is Trump.

Edited November 23, 2023 by Hodad

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

WTF is wrong with you? That's factual history, not an opinion. Trump (via Pompeo) met with the Taliban and unilaterally made a deal to leave the country to them and do a full withdrawal. There were about 13,000 troops in the country when Trump made the deal--enough to keep the Taliban in check.

After his deal with the Taliban, Trump started drawing down troops. He actually publicly announced that they would all be home by Christmas 2020, four months before the May date he agreed to leave, but they couldn't pull it off. 

Remember, this is a man who thought he would get a second term and would finish the withdrawal himself. By the last months of the Trump administration there were just 2500 troops in country and Taliban violence was ramping up. 

Biden came into office to find that there really was no plan for that final exit and extended thr final withdrawal date. That pissed off the Talies and there weren't enough troops left to keep them in check. So the Taliban started taking what Trump had given them and the exit turned into a shit show.

^^^Those are all facts. If you want to say that the US withdrawal from Afghanistan was a surrender to the Taliban, it's 100% true that it was Trump who did the surrendering. 

Biden also planned to exit Afghanistan if Trump hadn't, but Trump negotiated with the Taliban and removed the bulk of the troops. Frankly, it was going to end in some version of shit show regardless of who was in office for the final stage of withdrawal. The Taliban never had any intention of doing anything other than retaking the country. They escalated violence while Trump was still in the white house. The only way to reassert control would have been surging troops back in, and neither Biden nor Trump was going to do that.

I'm not sure how you missed all that recent history, but next time you talk about us "surrending" you'll know the guy you're talking about is Trump.

And by unilateral, you mean without even including the Afghan government (which was supposed to hold the Taliban in check for months) in the conversation. No surprise that they too, surrendered poste haste.

[Hodad]

41 minutes ago, robosmith said:

And by unilateral, you mean without even including the Afghan government (which was supposed to hold the Taliban in check for months) in the conversation. No surprise that they too, surrendered poste haste.

Indeed, that is what I meant. They excluded the Afghan government, a betrayal that told the Taliban exactly who would be the power in the country after the US exit. The government literally wasn't given a seat at the table. They simply handed Afghanistan back to the Taliban 

 

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, Hodad said:

Yeah, just regular old reality.

John Bolton and H.R. McMaster, two former Trump national security advisers known for their hawkish views, have lambasted both Trump and Biden for the withdrawal — though both have long been critical of the Taliban agreement.

• "Our secretary of state [Mike Pompeo] signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban," McMaster said on Bari Weiss' podcast. "This collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. The Taliban didn’t defeat us. We defeated ourselves."

Sorry - that's a sour opinion not a fact.

biden was the one who initialed the pull out of troops and was warned that what he was doing was dangerous - then it all came apart.

One thing i'll give you credit for - nobody rewrites history like the left does.  

[WestCanMan]

10 hours ago, Hodad said:

WTF is wrong with you? That's factual history, not an opinion. Trump (via Pompeo) met with the Taliban and unilaterally made a deal to leave the country to them and do a full withdrawal. There were about 13,000 troops in the country when Trump made the deal--enough to keep the Taliban in check.

After his deal with the Taliban, Trump started drawing down troops. He actually publicly announced that they would all be home by Christmas 2020, four months before the May date he agreed to leave, but they couldn't pull it off. 

You're missing the most important part...

After his deal with the Taliban, no American soldiers in Afghanistan were killed for the last 18 months of Trump's presidency. 

Is anything more important than that?