The ultimate challenge of GOP: overcome the (very real) threat of authoritarianism

[Deluge]

On 10/21/2023 at 6:43 PM, Caswell Thomas said:

January 6th was a protest. Protests come with signs and peaceful intent, Insurrectionists come with weapons and death threats and break into our Nations Capitol while the Electoral process inherent to our Democracy is going on and try to stop it; then leave feces and urine on the walls and floors, steal relics of our history, and call themselves patriots.

That's correct. January 6 WAS a protest. What happened outside of that protest was fueled by scumbag woke operatives trying to sucker the more angry protestors into illegal activity, which they were able to do with a small part of the protest group.

What a bunch of douchebags democrats are, wouldn't you say? 

[Deluge]

On 10/21/2023 at 6:26 PM, Caswell Thomas said:

Theodore Roosevelt...

has no status here. 

We have to penetrate nearly every facet of society to root out the filth that is woke activism. It will take time, but it will be worth it in the end.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

has no status here. 

We have to penetrate nearly every facet of society to root out the filth that is woke activism. It will take time, but it will be worth it in the end.

And when the hammer of common sense and dignity finally come to bear, these cowards will howl at the moon and scream that we're destroying democracy. Yet...its not really democracy they're concerned with...is it.

NO! Its their warped need to destroy everything they touch. A cop has a drug addict die while in the process of arresting him...'Burn Down The Police Station!'

Hundreds of thousands show up at a rally in the Capital. Trump says "Go peacefully protest" and these chickenshits try to sell the idea that he told them to riot.

See...the actual TRUTH does not fit their desired narrative...so they warp the narrative to suit their purpose. They LIE!

But...as is always the case...the Truth cannot be suppressed forever.

 

Edited October 23, 2023 by Nationalist

[Caswell Thomas]

6 hours ago, Deluge said:

has no status here. 

We have to penetrate nearly every facet of society to root out the filth that is woke activism. It will take time, but it will be worth it in the end.

So..now you have a grudge about Teddy Roosevelt?  

[Caswell Thomas]

6 hours ago, Deluge said:

That's correct. January 6 WAS a protest. What happened outside of that protest was fueled by scumbag woke operatives trying to sucker the more angry protestors into illegal activity, which they were able to do with a small part of the protest group.

What a bunch of douchebags democrats are, wouldn't you say? 

Funny how all those "woke" people were the ones getting beat up while defending our Democratic Country's Electoral Process, and were assaulted, kicked, sprayed with bear spray and shot at with chemical fireworks, hit with  flag poles, riot shields the Insurrectionists tore from police grasp,  fences torn from the barricades, metal folding chairs and camera tripods taken from on the scene news crews. Its possible you know that with a little actual research you can find a list of things used as weapons simply by watching several hours worth of recordings from Capitol buildings cameras on that day. I have, several times now, especially as more of the videos used to catch and detain many of the now almost a thousand Insurrectionists, once the participant has been caught, is released to further postings including to the public. 

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Funny how all those "woke" people were the ones getting beat up while defending our Democratic Country's Electoral Process, and were assaulted, kicked, sprayed with bear spray and shot at with chemical fireworks, hit with  flag poles, riot shields the Insurrectionists tore from police grasp,  fences torn from the barricades, metal folding chairs and camera tripods taken from on the scene news crews. Its possible you know that with a little actual research you can find a list of things used as weapons simply by watching several hours worth of recordings from Capitol buildings cameras on that day. I have, several times now, especially as more of the videos used to catch and detain many of the now almost a thousand Insurrectionists, once the participant has been caught, is released to further postings including to the public. 

How in the hell are you defending the country's electoral process when you're trying to provoke protestors into coming inside the building? That's the stupidest thing you woketards could say. Everyone knows the pervert leftists were mingling in that group to stir sh*t up. lol

 

[Caswell Thomas]

20 minutes ago, Deluge said:

How in the hell are you defending the country's electoral process when you're trying to provoke protestors into coming inside the building? That's the stupidest thing you woketards could say. Everyone knows the pervert leftists were mingling in that group to stir sh*t up. lol

 

Ah yes, the MAGA fallback position " Everybody knows" which.of course means nothing, just like MAGA. 

[WestCanMan]

13 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Ah yes, the MAGA fallback position " Everybody knows" which.of course means nothing, just like MAGA. 

The leftard fallback position is "I can't answer that question without incriminating myself so you're a racist!" 

 

What kind of political party gets the national police force to commit crimes for them in order to get an election overturned, and then immediately criminalizes all talk of election fraud the second they get in office?

Isn't that the biggest concern of all if we're talking about creeping authoritarianism?

What kind of political party holds a "Thayr oll ikstreemusts if thay votid for tha othur gi!" rally? 

Does it get any more fascist than ^that^?

How much closer can the Dems get to authoritarianism than they currently are? They've already weaponized the FBI, they are the supreme arbiters of their own elections, they alone decide which violent rioters and felons don't have to be prosecuted, and then they detain peaceful protesters that they don't like - without trial - for years. 

The Dems' stranglehold over their media outlets (CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NYT, and WashPo) makes Xi and KJU look like hippies. 

When Omar Khadr got the Jan 6th treatment (was held without trial for years) he was awarded $10.5M from the Cdn gov't, and he had bomb-making videos online. He was caught in the act of throwing a grenade at people. What did those guys at the "Almost entirely peaceful and joyous celebration of democracy" get arrested for...? Walking through a door that the cops were holding open for them? 

 

You're a sick man, Caswell, and an enemy of democracy. 

[Caswell Thomas]

28 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The leftard fallback position is "I can't answer that question without incriminating myself so you're a racist!" 

 

What kind of political party gets the national police force to commit crimes for them in order to get an election overturned, and then immediately criminalizes all talk of election fraud the second they get in office?

Isn't that the biggest concern of all if we're talking about creeping authoritarianism?

What kind of political party holds a "Thayr oll ikstreemusts if thay votid for tha othur gi!" rally? 

Does it get any more fascist than ^that^?

How much closer can the Dems get to authoritarianism than they currently are? They've already weaponized the FBI, they are the supreme arbiters of their own elections, they alone decide which violent rioters and felons don't have to be prosecuted, and then they detain peaceful protesters that they don't like - without trial - for years. 

The Dems' stranglehold over their media outlets (CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NYT, and WashPo) makes Xi and KJU look like hippies. 

When Omar Khadr got the Jan 6th treatment (was held without trial for years) he was awarded $10.5M from the Cdn gov't, and he had bomb-making videos online. He was caught in the act of throwing a grenade at people. What did those guys at the "Almost entirely peaceful and joyous celebration of democracy" get arrested for...? Walking through a door that the cops were holding open for them? 

 

You're a sick man, Caswell, and an enemy of democracy. 

Regardless of your ravings and rants which sound suspiciously like Donald Trump when he doesn't like answers, the Insurrectionists were the MAGA fanatic Republican fringe, not the Democrats. They weren't " peaceful protesters", they were a violent mob who brought and improvised weapons to attack the very foundation of the Country's election results tabulation and announcing of the next President of the United States by attacking its buildings , breaking past defensive police lines, busted through doors and windows, climbed walls, stole and broke things of great value,  attempted to find to maim and/or kill the Peoples legally elected representatives, and their actions led to the deaths of several defensive people who were trying to protect the Peoples House....and threatened and violently harassed other staff members as they broke into buildings and defecated and urinated on the inside walls of offices. These were never  " peaceful protesters" , not by a long shot and no matter how many times you shout it to the rafters or engage in insulting remarks you cannot change history. It happened. It was recorded by both live people, on scene cameras, and by the Insurrectionists themselves who.then, in turn, posted it all to the world. Lie all you want. It won't do any good. You cannot change History. 

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Ah yes, the MAGA fallback position " Everybody knows" which.of course means nothing, just like MAGA. 

No fallback needed. Everyone knows the degenerate left wants Trump's head. It's been a nonstop witch hunt since 2016. lol

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Regardless of your ravings and rants which sound suspiciously like Donald Trump when he doesn't like answers, the Insurrectionists were the MAGA fanatic Republican fringe, not the Democrats. They weren't " peaceful protesters", they were a violent mob who brought and improvised weapons to attack the very foundation of the Country's election results tabulation and announcing of the next President of the United States by attacking its buildings , breaking past defensive police lines, busted through doors and windows, climbed walls, stole and broke things of great value,  attempted to find to maim and/or kill the Peoples legally elected representatives, and their actions led to the deaths of several defensive people who were trying to protect the Peoples House....and threatened and violently harassed other staff members as they broke into buildings and defecated and urinated on the inside walls of offices. These were never  " peaceful protesters" , not by a long shot and no matter how many times you shout it to the rafters or engage in insulting remarks you cannot change history. It happened. It was recorded by both live people, on scene cameras, and by the Insurrectionists themselves who.then, in turn, posted it all to the world. Lie all you want. It won't do any good. You cannot change History. 

So funny that you just can't acknowledge that the FBI is a criminal organization, acting on behalf of the Dems. 

Why is that?

[Caswell Thomas]

21 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

So funny that you just can't acknowledge that the FBI is a criminal organization, acting on behalf of the Dems. 

Why is that?

Re: your comment about the FBI....Because it isn't true that's why......though I find it funny you should be here though instead of glued to your viewing membership in Truth Social watching still another Trump former attorney who conspired with him and others to declare the Georgia elections were fraudulent but testifying today she was told to say that by Trump, A man now she says she wishes she had never met. She pleaded guilty by the way...Jenna Ellis. 

[Caswell Thomas]

21 hours ago, Deluge said:

No fallback needed. Everyone knows the degenerate left wants Trump's head. It's been a nonstop witch hunt since 2016. lol

Actually if you read much.on his personal history, many people he scammed, defrauded, cheated, welched on, lied significantly about his businesses to, and goaded on the phone to while using U. S. Military forces to bomb and attack them...all these people hate him, not just the Dems and you know, they may all be correct in that assessment. 

[WestCanMan]

48 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Re: your comment about the FBI....Because it isn't true that's why......though I find it funny you should be here though instead of glued to your viewing membership in Truth Social watching still another Trump former attorney who conspired with him and others to declare the Georgia elections were fraudulent but testifying today she was told to say that by Trump, A man now she says she wishes she had never met. She pleaded guilty by the way...Jenna Ellis. 

The FBI absolutely commits crimes and lies. 

It wasn't just Kevin Clinesmith who signed off on the FISA warrant applications; Comey, Strzok and others signed off on those too. They knew that Carter Page was being spied on. Do you think it's possible that no one made any of them aware of the fact that he was a CIA asset during the course of all those subsequent applications? Not possible.

Clinesmith pled guilty to a crime, but he was no lone wolf or he would have been made an example of. He was the fall guy.

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"The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable."

A FISA court judge said that. 

What do the bolded parts mean to you caswell?

What does it mean if you say something that's contradicted by evidence? What does it mean for the FBI to withhold info that's detrimental to their case? Do you know what's meant by 'frequecy'? They mean it happened a lot. They mean that the FBI lied a lot. 

There's more...

https://nypost.com/2023/05/21/the-fbi-just-got-caught-in-yet-more-massive-outrageous-fisa-abuses/

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 the FBI conducted 278,000 improper searches of Americans in 2020 and early 2021.

more...

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an FBI analyst exploited FISA to unjustifiably conduct searches on 23,132 Americans citizens “to find evidence of possible foreign influence, although the analyst conducting the queries had no indications of foreign influence,” according to FISA Chief Judge Rudolph Contreras.

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The FBI exploited FISA to target 19,000 donors to the campaign of an unnamed candidate who challenged an incumbent member of Congress.

Just do a 2-minute Google search on the FBI. They're shit. 

[Rebound]

On 10/23/2023 at 10:33 AM, Deluge said:

has no status here. 

We have to penetrate nearly every facet of society to root out the filth that is woke activism. It will take time, but it will be worth it in the end.

You want to penetrate all the homosexuals and transsexuals? 

Edited October 25, 2023 by Rebound

[Deluge]

23 minutes ago, Rebound said:

You want to penetrate all the homosexuals and transsexuals? 

I'm sure that's exactly what you want to do, pervert, but there's no room for that kind of talk in a political forum. Save that trash for your DM's with robohomo. 

[Caswell Thomas]

21 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The FBI absolutely commits crimes and lies. 

It wasn't just Kevin Clinesmith who signed off on the FISA warrant applications; Comey, Strzok and others signed off on those too. They knew that Carter Page was being spied on. Do you think it's possible that no one made any of them aware of the fact that he was a CIA asset during the course of all those subsequent applications? Not possible.

Clinesmith pled guilty to a crime, but he was no lone wolf or he would have been made an example of. He was the fall guy.

A FISA court judge said that. 

What do the bolded parts mean to you caswell?

What does it mean if you say something that's contradicted by evidence? What does it mean for the FBI to withhold info that's detrimental to their case? Do you know what's meant by 'frequecy'? They mean it happened a lot. They mean that the FBI lied a lot. 

There's more...

https://nypost.com/2023/05/21/the-fbi-just-got-caught-in-yet-more-massive-outrageous-fisa-abuses/

more...

and

Just do a 2-minute Google search on the FBI. They're shit. 

I know the FBI far better than you do. My primary occupation for years followed similar objectives in what is , for them, a very small portion of what they do. I don't look for the bad in organizations that are charged with and often heralded as successful in protecting our national security. I personally believe that there ARE 5th Columnists in America intent on destroying the national security by constantly deriding the protective agencies of the country, I consider them to be the " domestic enemies" mentioned in every Oath to  defend the Constitution and the Country taken by those of us who volunteered to put our lives on the line defending it.  So I am going to say this, If you and your friends don't like the U. S. A. , don't feel you have to stay. 

[WestCanMan]

11 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

I know the FBI far better than you do.

Do you commit crimes together?

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I personally believe that there ARE 5th Columnists in America intent on destroying the national security by constantly deriding the protective agencies of the country, 

CNN, MSNBC especially, etc.

"ALL PIGS ARE RACIST! DEFUND POLICE!...."

Did you ever notice that the party of big government (fascism) just loves their criminalized national police force and they denigrate every local PD in the country? 

One big gov't, one big (criminal) police force, one media, and control over MSM. That's the Dems' goal.

[Legato]

29 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

I know the FBI far better than you do. My primary occupation for years followed similar objectives in what is , for them, a very small portion of what they do. I don't look for the bad in organizations that are charged with and often heralded as successful in protecting our national security. I personally believe that there ARE 5th Columnists in America intent on destroying the national security by constantly deriding the protective agencies of the country, I consider them to be the " domestic enemies" mentioned in every Oath to  defend the Constitution and the Country taken by those of us who volunteered to put our lives on the line defending it.  So I am going to say this, If you and your friends don't like the U. S. A. , don't feel you have to stay. 

I suppose you're also a part time crane driver. You need a new gas mantle, the one you have is not shedding much light.

[Caswell Thomas]

1 minute ago, Legato said:

I suppose you're also a part time crane driver. You need a new gas mantle, the one you have is not shedding much light.

Nope. Retired. Not a crane driver though. Considering the "reach" some of you here go to to make up stories to base your verbal attacks on, I'd guess some of you studied to be cherry pickers. 

[Legato]

1 minute ago, Caswell Thomas said:

NConsidering the "reach" some of you here go to to make up stories to base your verbal attacks on, 

Which are?

[Caswell Thomas]

21 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Do you commit crimes together?

CNN, MSNBC especially, etc.

"ALL PIGS ARE RACIST! DEFUND POLICE!...."

Did you ever notice that the party of big government (fascism) just loves their criminalized national police force and they denigrate every local PD in the country? 

One big gov't, one big (criminal) police force, one media, and control over MSM. That's the Dems' goal.

" defund the Police"?   Oh come now.  And here I thought I was texting with an intelligent Republican. 

[WestCanMan]

14 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

" defund the Police"?   Oh come now.  And here I thought I was texting with an intelligent Republican. 

Don't deny that a large percentage of leftist was talking about de-funding police. Even places like "The City of New York" did it. Biden said that "shifting money away from police departments" was a good idea. The pressure from the press on him to say something to that effect was very real. 

[Hodad]

16 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

" defund the Police"?   Oh come now.  And here I thought I was texting with an intelligent Republican. 

You must be new.?

[Caswell Thomas]

21 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Don't deny that a large percentage of leftist was talking about de-funding police. Even places like "The City of New York" did it. Biden said that "shifting money away from police departments" was a good idea. The pressure from the press on him to say something to that effect was very real. 

Didn't seem so to me.