Complicit in War Crimes

[User]

1 minute ago, Moonbox said:

Your level of obliviousness is beyond comic now.  As you accuse me of running away (something you do in every thread, every day...all the time...compulsively and ridiculously), you cite a thread where you ran away and refused to answer a simple yes or no question at least a half a dozen times. 

That's some good shit.  🤣🤣🤣

Now you play your dumb games yet again. You cowardly hid from me, responding without tagging me AFTER I had already shown you where I answered your question. Then I showed you again. 

Now you just pretend like I didn't and lie and lie even more saying I ran away when you did after cowardly responding without tagging me. 

 

[CdnFox]

28 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Did you feel better after that?  

 

LOL i felt good BEFORE that  

You're the one that's having the emotional breakdown here. You're the one who's desperately begging and crying and whining, I'm just responding to your rather hilarious antics   

I mean I come here for the laughs, a little bit of decent conversation here and there, and to catch up on some news that I probably wouldn't have seen somewhere else and to read the meme thread.  You seem to come here for no other reason than to try and pick fights with you immediately lose I'm pissing moan about like a child.

Sorry kid, I'm sure you think you're relevant to anyone else's life but you just not  

1 minute ago, User said:

Now you play your dumb games yet again. You cowardly hid from me, responding without tagging me AFTER I had already shown you where I answered your question. Then I showed you again. 

Now you just pretend like I didn't and lie and lie even more saying I ran away when you did after cowardly responding without tagging me. 

 

It's what he does. He does it with everyone. His other big trick is to try and nitpick a certain word in your argument after he realizes he can't actually address your argument

Pointing this out to him is like pointing out to a dung beetle that it's covered in dung. It doesn't know what you mean because it can't imagine being any different

[Moonbox]

9 minutes ago, User said:

Now you play your dumb games yet again. You cowardly hid from me, responding without tagging me AFTER I had already shown you where I answered your question. Then I showed you again. 

I'm happy letting people go back and read that exchange.  I don't need to whine and cry and insist on how I need to believe it played out, as you are doing here. 

You never answered the question.  I'll ask again here, and please remember, the answer is "yes" or "no".  🤡

Did the October 7th attack give Israel carte-blanche to do whatever they want in the region, and make them immune to criticism?  

You won't answer, just like you didn't in the thread you linked.  You're going to run away and cry more because actually answering that question highlights some uncomfortable concepts your brain can't handle. 

Edited May 7 by Moonbox

[Moonbox]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL i felt good BEFORE that  

You're the one that's having the emotional breakdown here. You're the one who's desperately begging and crying and whining, I'm just responding to your rather hilarious antics   

I mean I come here for the laughs, a little bit of decent conversation here and there, and to catch up on some news that I probably wouldn't have seen somewhere else and to read the meme thread.  You seem to come here for no other reason than to try and pick fights with you immediately lose I'm pissing moan about like a child.

Sorry kid, I'm sure you think you're relevant to anyone else's life but you just not  

It's what he does. He does it with everyone. His other big trick is to try and nitpick a certain word in your argument after he realizes he can't actually address your argument

Pointing this out to him is like pointing out to a dung beetle that it's covered in dung. It doesn't know what you mean because it can't imagine being any different

Pay attention to me please!  I am relevant!

-Confux

Edited May 7 by Moonbox

[User]

2 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I'm happy letting people go back and read that exchange.  I don't need to whine and cry and insist on how I need to believe it played out, as you are doing here. 

You never answered the question.  I'll ask again here, and please remember, the answer is "yes" or "no".  🤡

Did the October 7th attack give Israel carte-blanche to do whatever they want in the region, and make them immune to criticism?  

You won't answer, just like you didn't in the thread you linked.  You're going to run away and cry more because actually answering that question highlights some uncomfortable concepts your brain can't handle. 

How. How on Earth are you this ignorant, lazy, and as much of a liar as you are? Yet again, here was my full response that you ignored over and over and over again...

"It is not mere criticism though. Of course you can be critical of them both. Of course you can criticize both… but to what end?

Which is exactly why I ask what you expect them to do or if in the end you even support their actions, you just wish it could be a bit better.

It’s like if your home was on fire and your family and you were trapped inside. It is life or death. The fire department shows up, and they carry you all out to safety, but on the way they smash your kids head into the wall as they frantically try to get you all out.

Yeah, you can criticize them… that was awful, maybe they should have been more careful, but in the end you still wanted them to carry you to safety and recognize while a mistake, in the context of what was going on and the chaos, they still saved your lives.

I think that isn’t what you are doing here though, you are saying, no, they should have left you to die because too many mistakes will be made trying to save you…

Only, it’s not your family being saved, it’s Israeli families half a world away you have nothing really vested in caring about. 
 

Israel isn’t doing whatever it wants to do, they are not immune from criticism, and this thread wasn’t about mere criticism it was about conspiratorial BS on the war being started and prolonged to keep Netanyahu out of prison.

So… can you admit that or just gonna keep playing your stupid games and/or run away like you almost always do? "

 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Moonbox said:

Pay attention to me please!  I am relevant!

-Confux

LOOK GUYS ,  I'M WINNING MY ARGUMENT!!!

Moonbox

 

1 minute ago, User said:

How. How on Earth are you this ignorant, lazy, and as much of a liar as you are?

In his case, practice. 

[User]

The important part of my response, which played out as predicted:

"So… can you admit that or just gonna keep playing your stupid games and/or run away like you almost always do?"

As you can see, @Moonbox ran away like he almost always does. Then lied over and over again. 

[User]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

In his case, practice. 

What do you think? Does he run away again, obfuscate, keep lying... or maybe... just maybe give me some kind of half-hearted acknowledgment he was a clown and wrong?

 

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But you did.  Several times. Insisted on it even.  A number of people called you out on it. 

And you've also said repetitively ad nauseum that the violence against the jews is justified because of 1948. 

And then he tells us how he can identify with them because of the Massacre at Glencoe. 300 years ago 🤣 

25 people, none of whom he can name.

Yeah, ok eyeball, you sit there between Saul and Osama and share your tales of grief.

[CdnFox]

28 minutes ago, User said:

What do you think? Does he run away again, obfuscate, keep lying... or maybe... just maybe give me some kind of half-hearted acknowledgment he was a clown and wrong?

 

Well you left out the option where he has a minor conniption fit and blames the fact that you're right on my postcount somehow..... But I think we can probably rule out coming to his senses and realizing he's being a twat  

[User]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well you left out the option where he has a minor conniption fit and blames the fact that you're right on my postcount somehow..... But I think we can probably rule out coming to his senses and realizing he's being a twat  

Looks like run away is happening now. Of course, after he demands I answer his question yet again, even though I already did and posted this to him over and over again, now he chooses to exit and not be here to respond.  Imagine that. 

 

[WestCanMan]

7 minutes ago, User said:

Looks like run away is happening now. Of course, after he demands I answer his question yet again, even though I already did and posted this to him over and over again, now he chooses to exit and not be here to respond.  Imagine that. 

He posted a GIF of a dog barking... By leftist standards, that's an automatic victory.

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, User said:

How. How on Earth are you this ignorant, lazy, and as much of a liar as you are? Yet again, here was my full response that you ignored over and over and over again...

"It is not mere criticism though. Of course you can be critical of them both. Of course you can criticize both… but to what end?

Which is exactly why I ask what you expect them to do or if in the end you even support their actions, you just wish it could be a bit better.

It’s like if your home was on fire and your family and you were trapped inside. It is life or death. The fire department shows up, and they carry you all out to safety, but on the way they smash your kids head into the wall as they frantically try to get you all out.

Yeah, you can criticize them… that was awful, maybe they should have been more careful, but in the end you still wanted them to carry you to safety and recognize while a mistake, in the context of what was going on and the chaos, they still saved your lives.

I think that isn’t what you are doing here though, you are saying, no, they should have left you to die because too many mistakes will be made trying to save you…

Only, it’s not your family being saved, it’s Israeli families half a world away you have nothing really vested in caring about. 
 

Israel isn’t doing whatever it wants to do, they are not immune from criticism, and this thread wasn’t about mere criticism it was about conspiratorial BS on the war being started and prolonged to keep Netanyahu out of prison.

So… can you admit that or just gonna keep playing your stupid games and/or run away like you almost always do? "

 

The question was:  
Did the October 7th attack give Israel carte-blanche to do whatever they want in the region, and make them immune to criticism? 

This is a yes/no answer sort of question.  When you muster the bravery to respond to that, we can proceed.  

Your response largely avoids answering and is a longwinded attempt to reframe criticism of Israel as opposition to their right to defend itself.  That's a substituted (and ridiculous) position that nobody here has taken, but it's the one you'd prefer to argue against and therefore the one you keep projecting.  🤡

Edited May 7 by Moonbox

[User]

6 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

The question was:  
Did the October 7th attack give Israel carte-blanche to do whatever they want in the region, and make them immune to criticism? 

This is a yes/no answer sort of question.  When you muster the bravery to respond to that, we can proceed.  

Your response largely avoids answering and is a longwinded attempt to reframe criticism of Israel as opposition to their right to defend itself.  That's a substituted (and ridiculous) position that nobody here has taken, but it's the one you'd prefer to argue against and therefore the one you keep projecting.  🤡

Yet again, you are a dishonest clown. Read the whole response again. You can see I directly answered your question. The fact that I went further to call you out for the stupidity of the question was just a bonus. 

I figured this is what you would continue to do. 

[WestCanMan]

20 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

The question was:  
Did the October 7th attack give Israel carte-blanche to do whatever they want in the region, and make them immune to criticism? 

This is a yes/no answer sort of question. 

Of course that's a "no", dingus.

They can't just drop nukes on every country in the region.

Now answer this question:

• "With Hamas and the IRGC both openly dedicated to an eventual genocide against Israel, and hundreds of thousands of rockets aimed at Israeli cities by Hamas and Hezbollah, thousands of ballistic missiles aimed at Israel by the IRGC/Houthis/plus whatever other 2-bit terrorist orgs the IRGC decided to give ballistic missiles to, and a massive terrorist attack on Oct 7th, plus dozens of hostages being tortured/r4ped/killed for 2 years straight, and over 50,000 rockets fired at civilian targets in Israel by Hezbollah and Hamas, HAS ISRAEL SHOWN REASONABLE RESTRAINT? They warn civilians before they blow up rocket caches ffs... That effectively gives Hamas time to save their soldiers, and some rockets. 
• What would you do if you were Israel? And when you give your answer, just remember that you condone the slitting of throats of women after they are gang-r4ped, the burning deaths of babies, shooting tens of thousands of rockets at civilian targets, and openly promising genocide against all Jews, not even just the ones in Israel.

None of your comments ever take the reality in Israel into account. On the very first day that their defences are overwhelmed, they will all be massacred.

This isn't like Canada's fight in WWII, where losing just meant fascism (like we currently have in Canada) and the slaughter of 2% of the population of another continent... losing for Israel means "every single person that you know gets murdered". 

Gazans have never faced the threat of a full-on genocide, like the Pakistanis unleashed on Sikhs and Hindus in 1947. The Israelis have been attacked by 6 or more countries twice now, and to call those attacks mere "wars" is to disinform... because those were attempts at genocide. If the Jews lost, the death toll would have been in the millions.

[WestCanMan]

That would never happen to @Gaétan, @eyeball or @Moonbox though. You guys could go there with no worries. 

Edited May 7 by WestCanMan

[Moonbox]

54 minutes ago, User said:

Yet again, you are a dishonest clown. Read the whole response again. You can see I directly answered your question. The fact that I went further to call you out for the stupidity of the question was just a bonus. 

I figured this is what you would continue to do. 

No, I can see that you responded to a yes or no question with a full-page of storytelling, dumb-beyond-belief analogy, and ridiculous projection about my motivation and tone.  Again, you're debating against the argument you want me to be making, rather than the one I'm offering.  This is what you always do. 

Here's the question again.  Answer yes or no:  

Did the October 7th attack give Israel carte-blanche to do whatever they want in the region, and make them immune to criticism? 

I'm looking for a one word answer.  There's a reason why this is so hard for you.  You need the water to stay muddy.  

[User]

2 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

No, I can see that you responded to a yes or no question with a full-page of storytelling, dumb-beyond-belief analogy, and ridiculous projection about my motivation and tone.  Again, you're debating against the argument you want me to be making, rather than the one I'm offering.  This is what you always do. 

Here's the question again.  Answer yes or no:  

Did the October 7th attack give Israel carte-blanche to do whatever they want in the region, and make them immune to criticism? 

I'm looking for a one word answer.  There's a reason why this is so hard for you.  You need the water to stay muddy.  

I can respond however I want to respond, in addition to the point, that I did answer your question. You are just too big of a pathetic lying coward. You speak out of both sides of your mouth and can't respond directly to the points being made because they show how full of shit you are. So keep running little coward. 

"It is not mere criticism though. Of course you can be critical of them both. Of course you can criticize both… but to what end?

Which is exactly why I ask what you expect them to do or if in the end you even support their actions, you just wish it could be a bit better.

It’s like if your home was on fire and your family and you were trapped inside. It is life or death. The fire department shows up, and they carry you all out to safety, but on the way they smash your kids head into the wall as they frantically try to get you all out.

Yeah, you can criticize them… that was awful, maybe they should have been more careful, but in the end you still wanted them to carry you to safety and recognize while a mistake, in the context of what was going on and the chaos, they still saved your lives.

I think that isn’t what you are doing here though, you are saying, no, they should have left you to die because too many mistakes will be made trying to save you…

Only, it’s not your family being saved, it’s Israeli families half a world away you have nothing really vested in caring about. 
 

Israel isn’t doing whatever it wants to do, they are not immune from criticism, and this thread wasn’t about mere criticism it was about conspiratorial BS on the war being started and prolonged to keep Netanyahu out of prison.

So… can you admit that or just gonna keep playing your stupid games and/or run away like you almost always do? "

[Moonbox]

46 minutes ago, User said:

I can respond however I want to respond, in addition to the point, that I did answer your question.

Yes, you can respond however you like, but like a 5 year old playing checkers, you make the rules and they only apply to your opponents.  Your questions and your "points" all require answers (otherwise it's "running away") but evasiveness and obfuscation are the hallmarks of your content on this forum...along with juvenile and compulsive accusations of dishonesty...🤡

Regardless, you did not answer my question.  In your bloviating, self-indulgent novel of a response, you did highlight:

53 minutes ago, User said:

Israel isn’t doing whatever it wants to do, they are not immune from criticism

I didn't ask if Israel is doing whatever it wants, so that's a useless remark.  You deliberately evaded the core question and instead answered the downstream implication.  

I asked (remember, this is yes or no😞

Did the October 7th attack give Israel carte-blanche to do whatever they want in the region, and make them immune to criticism.

I'm not asking the question for no reason.  I'm trying to establish a simple framework for the debate, and you're doing everything you can to avoid clarity.

Why?  It's because you can't handle clarity in debate.  You need to keep things in the muck.  

[User]

2 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Yes, you can respond however you like, but like a 5 year old playing checkers, you make the rules and they only apply to your opponents.  Your questions and your "points" all require answers (otherwise it's "running away") but evasiveness and obfuscation are the hallmarks of your content on this forum...along with juvenile and compulsive accusations of dishonesty...🤡

Regardless, you did not answer my question.  In your bloviating, self-indulgent novel of a response, you did highlight:

Now you are back to your usual obfuscation games arguing about semantics about the argument. What rules did I make or that only apply to my opponents?

I swear, you are a such a pathetic dishonest clown. 

Yes, I did answer your question...

3 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I didn't ask if Israel is doing whatever it wants, so that's a useless remark.  You deliberately evaded the core question and instead answered the downstream implication.  

I asked (remember, this is yes or no😞

Did the October 7th attack give Israel carte-blanche to do whatever they want in the region, and make them immune to criticism.

I'm not asking the question for no reason.  I'm trying to establish a simple framework for the debate, and you're doing everything you can to avoid clarity.

Why?  It's because you can't handle clarity in debate.  You need to keep things in the muck.  

I love how you still ignore that I clearly said they were not immune to criticism which is a direct response to your question.

I responded to your other part about being able to do whatever they wanted... but you have spent pages and endless posts claming I did not answer your question and running away like a coward only to now want to quibble about HOW I answered your question. 

Once again, more completely pathetic cowardly dishonesty from you. 

You are not interested in debate or discussion; you want to quibble over nothing and run away. 

See, let's play your dumb game, no, Israel does not have carte blanche to do whatever they want to in the region. It was obvious from my response this was the case, but no... you want to play dumb, you want to say I did not answer and only now try to frame it as some game about how I answered while you ignore the other half of your question being directly responded to. 

OK... now what? Now, are you going to ignore everything else said, or are you finally going to respond to my questions and what I said?

 

[Moonbox]

15 minutes ago, User said:

I love how you still ignore that I clearly said they were not immune to criticism which is a direct response to your question.

No I addressed that pretty clearly: 

24 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

You deliberately evaded the core question and instead answered the downstream implication.  

So there you are, "lying" again.  🫠

16 minutes ago, User said:

See, let's play your dumb game, no, Israel does not have carte blanche to do whatever they want to in the region.

There we go!  He did it!  Days later and after probably a dozen tries, he finally answers!  AMAZING!

It's not a game, either.  This is a framework for further debate on the subject.  

If reasonable limits exist, actions can exceed them

If actions can exceed them, they can be criticized

Therefore criticism is =/ supporting the opponent

 

If you can accept this logic, then perhaps you can finally get over your juvenile, non-stop efforts to reframe anyone criticizing Israel's (now years-long) response to October 7th as a Hamas supporter.  If that's the case, we can actually start having a substantive debate without you constantly derailing things with your ret*rded hyper partisan tribalism.

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

 

There we go!  He did it!  Days later and after probably a dozen tries, he finally answers!  AMAZING!

 

@User  answered before, you just chose to ignore it because you know he's right and as predicted you're trying to drag the argument down to a semantics game.

Kid. You're fooling no one.  Everyone here is laughing at you, 

[User]

16 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Therefore criticism is =/ supporting the opponent

Holy shit, so... days ago I clearly said you could criticize Israel, you cried saying I did not answer, ignored my repeatedly giving you the link to my answer, then you ran like a coward... just to today lie about all of that and finally quibble about HOW I answered the question now arguing I evaded the core part of your question, even though I still clearly said you could criticize them, and your point comes down to the very part of the response I clearly already answered. 

You are, without a doubt, the biggest cowardly, pathetic clown on the forum. 

19 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

If you can accept this logic, then perhaps you can finally get over your juvenile, non-stop efforts to reframe anyone criticizing Israel's (now years-long) response to October 7th as a Hamas supporter.  If that's the case, we can actually start having a substantive debate without you constantly derailing things with your ret*rded hyper partisan tribalism.

This is your stupid strawman. 

I do not merely say ANY criticism of Israel means people support Hamas. 

Which, once again, is the very response I gave you above, that you ignored and cried about avoiding your question, even addressed this, making the point I have been making. 

That when your criticism comes across as there is nothing Israel can do to fight this war to stop Hamas as anything they do will result in what you are criticizing them for and demanding they stop... the end result is that Hamas stays in power, they keep killing Israeli people, keep waging terror against them daily... because OMG, if Israel fights back, they might kill a child that Hamas is hiding behind. 

This is why you avoid my point about if your family was being pulled out by firefighters and refuse to actually answer that or any of my questions. 

Instead you just keep playing your dumb games. 

 

[User]

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

@User  answered before, you just chose to ignore it because you know he's right and as predicted you're trying to drag the argument down to a semantics game.

Kid. You're fooling no one.  Everyone here is laughing at you, 

The amazingly stupid part is that the logical conclusion, his big point, all came down to the very damn thing I already answered. OMG, you can't make up this level of stupidity. 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, User said:

The amazingly stupid part is that the logical conclusion, his big point, all came down to the very damn thing I already answered. OMG, you can't make up this level of stupidity. 

It does, in fact, require special training and occasionally a concussion