Islamic Jihad destroys a Gaza hospital with a rocket.

[reason10]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/hundreds-killed-blast-gaza-strip-hospital-israel-blames-islamic-jihad

FOX News correspondent Trey Yingst has the latest on the reports of a deadly strike at a Gaza hospital on "The Story."

A Hamas-run hospital that was treating wounded Palestinians and sheltering many others in the Gaza Strip was hit by an airstrike Tuesday, killing hundreds of people, though Israel Defense Forces (IDF) blame the strike on the Islamic Jihad.

The Gaza Health Ministry said at least 500 people were killed at al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza City, which Hamas said was the result of an Israeli airstrike.

When asked earlier in the day, the IDF said it was investigating the source of the explosion, noting that the hospital is a "highly sensitive building" and is "not an IDF target."

People gather around bodies of Palestinians killed in a blast at al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in central Gaza on Tuesday. (Dawood Nemer / AFP via Getty Images)

After an investigation, the IDF provided its findings with regard to the source of the airstrike.

"An analysis of IDF operational systems indicates that a barrage of rockets was fired by terrorists in Gaza, passing in close proximity to the al-Ahli [Baptist] hospital in Gaza at the time it was hit," IDF officials said. "Intelligence from multiple sources we have in our hands indicates that Islamic Jihad is responsible for the failed rocket launch which hit the hospital in Gaza."

Shortly after the strike, a senior Hamas official told Fox, "After the barbaric attack, it’s too early to talk about this."

And those rag headed animals will probably try to blame Israel.

 

 

 

[eyeball]

14 minutes ago, reason10 said:

After an investigation, the IDF provided its findings with regard to the source of the airstrike.

Fox News launched the attack?

Go figure.

I'm any case its difficult to believe the relative firecrackers Hamas or whoever  uses is capable of doing the sort of damage that's apparently been done to the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital.

These images are more typical of the sort of damage one sees from a rocket launched from Gaza.  Something like this killed 500 or more people? I'll have to see independently gathered and assessed proof of that. Forensic please.

 

Here's what's more typical of an Israeli missile or bomb.

 

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Fox News launched the attack?

Go figure.

I'm any case its difficult to believe the relative firecrackers Hamas or whoever  uses is capable of doing the sort of damage that's apparently been done to the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital.

These images are more typical of the sort of damage one sees from a rocket launched from Gaza.  Something like this killed 500 or more people? I'll have to see independently gathered and assessed proof of that. Forensic please.

 

Here's what's more typical of an Israeli missile or bomb.

 

We can tell how guilty the right wingers are by how quickly they post DEFLECTIONS trying to FALSELY FRAME what happened.

[August1991]

I'm not surprised. The Russians did far more in Berlin.

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Anyway, this has nothing to do with US federal politics.

Monitors- Please move.

Edited October 18, 2023 by August1991

[reason10]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

We can tell how guilty the right wingers are by how quickly they post DEFLECTIONS trying to FALSELY FRAME what happened.

The rag heads did it. I know you NAZIS want to blame the Jews, since Hitler didn't gas as many of them as you would like. But the animals Hamas did it. And those animals are going  to pay.

[Deluge]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

We can tell how guilty the right wingers are by how quickly they post DEFLECTIONS trying to FALSELY FRAME what happened.

You think those wild animals from Gaza are above bombing their own to frame the Israelis? lol

[Gaétan]

This is disinformation, Israel fire the hospital as anything else, they don't know what they do, they just target anything. They did more 200 war crimes so far, The Israel justice should stop him as Germany should have stopped Hitler.

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, Gaétan said:

This is disinformation, Israel fire the hospital as anything else, they don't know what they do, they just target anything. They did more 200 war crimes so far, The Israel justice should stop him as Germany should have stopped Hitler.

Hamas has been very naughty, Gaetan. They need to pay for butchering innocent people. 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Deluge

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, Gaétan said:

This is disinformation, Israel fire the hospital as anything else, they don't know what they do, they just target anything. They did more 200 war crimes so far, The Israel justice should stop him as Germany should have stopped Hitler.

All of which you say without showing us one shred of evidence.  
 

How about this: Whether it was Hamas or Israel who bombed that hospital, it only happened because Hamas attacked Israel last week.  

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

You think those wild animals from Gaza are above bombing their own to frame the Israelis? lol

I'm offended.

They clearly draw the line at rape, ambushes and murders, beheading and mutilation of hostages and innocent civilians. Especially children and women! God willing.

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

All of which you say without showing us one shred of evidence.  
 

How about this: Whether it was Hamas or Israel who bombed that hospital, it only happened because Hamas attacked Israel last week.  

Good post, Rebound, though I disagree at even the idea of Israel bombing that hospital. If they wanted those people dead they would've already started mowing others down by the thousands. 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

Good post, Rebound, though I disagree at even the idea of Israel bombing that hospital. If they wanted those people dead they would've already started mowing others down by the thousands. 

Wrong. One incident can be falsely blamed on Jihadis, but routine practice leaves a LOT of evidence.

The truth is we still don't KNOW who was responsible, but evidence will be dug up and examined.

That is why the it was the OP who jumped the gun.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

All of which you say without showing us one shred of evidence.  
 

How about this: Whether it was Hamas or Israel who bombed that hospital, it only happened because Hamas attacked Israel last week.  

And that only happened because Israel was dropped on Palestine 75 years ago.

There's lots of evidence of that.

[West]

You have to be cautious about misinformation in the news media. 

Expressing skepticism often gets you accused of being a "conspiracy theorist" or is met with verbal tirades from some, but is necessary. 

[Deluge]

24 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Wrong. One incident can be falsely blamed on Jihadis, but routine practice leaves a LOT of evidence.

The truth is we still don't KNOW who was responsible, but evidence will be dug up and examined.

That is why the it was the OP who jumped the gun.

Bullshit.

Hamas instigates, Israel reacts.

Hamas spreads unmitigated violence, Israel gets surgical. 

Hamas is a pack of wild animals, Israel is cultured and refined. 

Hamas needs to be wiped out, Israel needs to flourish. 

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

Good post, Rebound, though I disagree at even the idea of Israel bombing that hospital. If they wanted those people dead they would've already started mowing others down by the thousands. 

I don’t know who bombed the hospital.  Let’s agree that we do not yet know for certain, and anybody who right now says they’re certain is someone who will deny whatever facts emerge, because their idea of “true” is what they make up.  
 

I think it’s almost certain that a whoever bombed the hospital did not intentionally bomb the hospital. 

[Rebound]

47 minutes ago, eyeball said:

And that only happened because Israel was dropped on Palestine 75 years ago.

There's lots of evidence of that.

Oh that? 
Tell me, what is wrong with the Palestinians? You can look at maps of Europe, Asia, the Mideast, Africa… and they ALL changed dramatically after WW II.  Britain “owned” Palestine and the UN created the small nation of Israel, and Israel got bigger and bigger every time the Palestinians convinced Arab nations to start a war.  
The rest of the world has moved on and made lives for themselves.  The Palestinians need to get over it. 

The reason the Palestinians were displaced was that the Palestinians started a war.  The Palestinians who didn’t flee Israel still live in Israel.  20% of Israel is Palestinian.  I’ve been there — all the street signs are in Hebrew and Arabic.  Not the case in a single Arab nation!  Iran kicked all their Jews out! So did Libya, and Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and others. 
 

Hundreds of millions were displaced after WW II and the Palestinians were displaced only about 20 miles. They live in “refugee camps” because they refuse to just live their lives productively.  There are fewer than 20 million Jews worldwide and over 1 billion Muslims. The Palestinians have refused to build their lives in any meaningful way, and instead have launched terror attacks around the world. Jews are not the cause of their problems.  

Edited October 18, 2023 by Rebound

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, Rebound said:

The Palestinians need to get over it.

You say they need to get over something that happened within living memory to accommodate people who still can't get over things that happened thousands of years ago?

In the meantime I always find it suspiciously convenient that Britain and the rest of the so-called security council have all long since gotten over their role in the shape and condition of the world. 

[Rebound]

9 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You say they need to get over something that happened within living memory to accommodate people who still can't get over things that happened thousands of years ago?

In the meantime I always find it suspiciously convenient that Britain and the rest of the so-called security council have all long since gotten over their role in the shape and condition of the world. 

The borders of Kenya changed too. And Tanzania. And Congo. And Germany and Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia and on and on. 
 

What has all this fighting accomplished for the Palestinians? Nothing!  Post-1948, they’ve lost 2/3 of their territory.  Most Palestinians just want to live in peace but their terrorist groups won’t allow it. 
 

Get this through your skull: Israel is not going away. The only path forward is peace.  The Palestinians have lost every war they ever started, and paid a heavy price every time.  How on earth do you think that sneaking over the border and killing 1,000 civilians is going to accomplish any good for the Palestinian people? How? The result is going to be the elimination of Hamas. They are DONE.  
 

Oh, and Palestinian civilian deaths? Every member of Hamas is technically a civilian. No uniforms. So, yes, there will be civilian deaths.  

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

Bullshit.

Hamas instigates, Israel reacts.

Hamas spreads unmitigated violence, Israel gets surgical. 

Hamas is a pack of wild animals, Israel is cultured and refined. 

Hamas needs to be wiped out, Israel needs to flourish. 

The original instigator was the ZIONISTS who declared the land was theirs and drove out enough Palestinians to cement a Jewish majority in 1948. 

[robosmith]

37 minutes ago, Rebound said:

The borders of Kenya changed too. And Tanzania. And Congo. And Germany and Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia and on and on. 
 

What has all this fighting accomplished for the Palestinians? Nothing!  Post-1948, they’ve lost 2/3 of their territory.  Most Palestinians just want to live in peace but their terrorist groups won’t allow it. 
 

Get this through your skull: Israel is not going away. The only path forward is peace.  The Palestinians have lost every war they ever started, and paid a heavy price every time.  How on earth do you think that sneaking over the border and killing 1,000 civilians is going to accomplish any good for the Palestinian people? How? The result is going to be the elimination of Hamas. They are DONE.  
 

Oh, and Palestinian civilian deaths? Every member of Hamas is technically a civilian. No uniforms. So, yes, there will be civilian deaths.  

And most Israelis are trained military and subject to recall for this war. Except the Orthodox Jews who are exempt.

So if you want to play THAT game, it goes both ways. 

[eyeball]

35 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Get this through your skull: Israel is not going away. The only path forward is peace.

Palestine isn't going away either and until Israel acknowledges and reconciles with that the path forward will remain a painful one.

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

The original instigator was the ZIONISTS who declared the land was theirs and drove out enough Palestinians to cement a Jewish majority in 1948. 

Nope.

Israel is the original historical homeland of the Jews. In 1948 they just took what was already theirs. Muslims have lots of lands, but in Israel, it's adapt to Jewish rule or gtfo time for the Jihadists. 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Deluge

[ironstone]

This is what Hamas actually uses hospitals for.

Not-So-Secret Hamas Command Bunker Located Under Gaza Hospital (freebeacon.com)

Al-Shifa Hospital - Wikipedia

From what I've seen so far about this incident, it looks like it's not Israel that did it. A failed rocket from Hamas. No surprise that Hamas lied and the media ate it up.

[Rebound]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

Palestine isn't going away either and until Israel acknowledges and reconciles with that the path forward will remain a painful one.

If it were that simple, there would have been peace 75 years ago. Hamas believes in the elimination of Israel and removal of all Jews from the Mideast.