Global assault on democracy has begun. The outcome, far from certain

[myata]

Modern democracy is assaulted on four fronts simultaneously.

1. The Tyrant Axis unleashed a quest first to undermine, then end the rules-based order established after WWII. Stability and security is one of the main, or let's say it the main condition of stable development and prosperity. Ukraine, Israel: once the dictators worldwide get the feel that joining the Axis they acquire total impunity for whatever they do, plan to do or have done; and possibly nukes it would be a flash, in historical terms for the world to transition to a very different state.

2. Division and isolationism: populist politicians and forces in some democratic countries seek to benefit from the rising chaos by pretending that it doesn't exist; that there are more important problems; that they can negotiate with the tyrants and forces of chaos. It serves them personally; and it can lead to a disaster for the society, and the entire democratic world by weakening its will and resolve right at the time of challenge. They couldn't care less. They care only about the power.

3. Internal forces of populism and authoritarianism. Somehow they feel attraction of authoritarianism. They are saying, one shouldn't fear it and may embrace it. First, by eroding ethical principles and will to act. Next, logically, by undermining the institutions of democracy in the democratic countries.

4. Internal problems of popular representative democracy: detachment of governments and elites; failure to produce and maintain, despite the challenges a model and standard of broad shared prosperity.

This is far from easy setting with a clear outcome. Democracies have to see and understand the real scale and significance of the challenged and seek solutions in clear principled shared position and coordinated, intelligent cooperation.

[taxme]

23 minutes ago, myata said:

Modern democracy is assaulted on four fronts simultaneously.

1. The Tyrant Axis unleashed a quest first to undermine, then end the rules-based order established after WWII. Stability and security is one of the main, or let's say it the main condition of stable development and prosperity. Ukraine, Israel: once the dictators worldwide get the feel that joining the Axis they acquire total impunity for whatever they do, plan to do or have done; and possibly nukes it would be a flash, in historical terms for the world to transition to a very different state.

2. Division and isolationism: populist politicians and forces in some democratic countries seek to benefit from the rising chaos by pretending that it doesn't exist; that there are more important problems; that they can negotiate with the tyrants and forces of chaos. It serves them personally; and it can lead to a disaster for the society, and the entire democratic world by weakening its will and resolve right at the time of challenge. They couldn't care less. They care only about the power.

3. Internal forces of populism and authoritarianism. Somehow they feel attraction of authoritarianism. They are saying, one shouldn't fear it and may embrace it. First, by eroding ethical principles and will to act. Next, logically, by undermining the institutions of democracy in the democratic countries.

4. Internal problems of popular representative democracy: detachment of governments and elites; failure to produce and maintain, despite the challenges a model and standard of broad shared prosperity.

This is far from easy setting with a clear outcome. Democracies have to see and understand the real scale and significance of the challenged and seek solutions in clear principled shared position and coordinated, intelligent cooperation.

Will the WEF globalist elite great reset plan win or will they lose? Since covid ended, the attacks on our freedoms has begun with the end results being that we will all be happy when we own nothing. 

All those anti-freedom censorship laws, like Bills C-11 and C-18 being implemented, is allowing the dictator clown in Ottawa to control what we see, hear and read on many websites and social media. Canada is well on it's way to becoming a communist country. The dictator in Ottawa is trying to censor whatever he can so he can block anything that that makes him look bad. 

And what does our MSM in Canada do about this? Sweet fck all. This is what happens we do not have a free press in Canada. Just a bought off media in Canada. Anyone here tries to convince that Canada is fast becoming a communist country is stupid as hell. ?

[myata]

Yes erosion of democracy takes many forms these days. And none of this is a good news.

[TreeBeard]

On 10/8/2023 at 2:52 PM, taxme said:

Canada is fast becoming a communist country

So, you’re saying that the federal government wants to own all the means of production?

Or are you using “communism” as a bogeyman?

[Michael Hardner]

11 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

So, you’re saying that the federal government wants to own all the means of production?

Or are you using “communism” as a bogeyman?

They don't understand the term.  They even talk about the elites in lockstep with Marxians while they imagine Communism is shaming people into using pronouns they/them/theirs.

The so-called "democratic model" had a tacit element of hierarchy - in that the messages were not aimed for a large group of people who didn't participate in elections, didn't read the news etc.  This was the post-WW2 political-economic boardgame as communicated by the media channels of the 20th century.

The current model looks more like the 18th century or pre-radio days.

We need to step back and re-design our democracy for the media landscape of today.  That would either mean tamping down on freedoms or redesigning our systems to be more inclusive and simpler so that engagement would be more natural than it was under the top-down mass media sphere (TV, cable, radio)

[taxme]

21 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

So, you’re saying that the federal government wants to own all the means of production?

Or are you using “communism” as a bogeyman?

The bogeyman that exists in Canada today is called the communist bogeyman. Are you not aware of all of the attacks on our freedom of speech these days in Canada by that dictator in Ottawa? 

We had many truckers and supporters of the truckers convoy who had their bank accounts and credit cards frozen because they tried to exercise their right to their freedom of speech and assembly. Is that not something that only a communist country would do? Those that had their accounts frozen had to rely on family and friends to eat and survive only because they exercised their right to speak freely. The dictator in Ottawa does not like anyone who disagrees with his communist like dictatorship.

The Online Censorship Act, Bills C 11 and C-18, are two more attacks on our rights to freedom of speech thanks to the dictator in Ottawa. Yes, Canada is fast becoming a communist like dictatorship, and if you are too dumb to see what is happening, then I would suggest that you go back to bed and stay there. You are no good to the patriotic people of Canada who do believe in freedom of speech and assembly. There way too many stunned people like yourself who could careless about what is going on in Canada today. You are the problem, not me. ?

[SpankyMcFarland]

Perhaps liberal democracy is just an inherently unlikely form of government? It has always been the exception and is certainly in retreat these days. The world’s two largest states embraced capitalism but rejected other aspects of the Western state. India, never fully democratic in practice, is sliding into sectarian autocracy while China fulfils nearly all the criteria of a totalitarianism these days. More important to most on the planet are order and a minimum level of prosperity. 

[Deluge]

On 10/20/2023 at 6:30 AM, Michael Hardner said:

They don't understand the term.  They even talk about the elites in lockstep with Marxians while they imagine Communism is shaming people into using pronouns they/them/theirs.

Where do you think this whole pronoun sh*t came from, professor? 

[Aristides]

Dictatorships are almost all homophobic to some degree. The Soviet Union and Putins existing government are good examples.

[herbie]

Oh look who you're trying to talk sense to FFS!

A bogeyman is an imaginary threat, so when you ask if it's communism or a bogeyman they answer YES it's the communist imaginary threat that's the REAL threat... duhhh!
Same as the dimwits that can't distinguish authoritarianism, dictatorship, and censorship from other isms... they've convinced themselves that is the definition of socialism/communism not the economic definition. Democratic Socialism would make their heads explode.

Edited November 2, 2023 by herbie