Trump found guilty of fraud in civil case.

[Legato]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

 

AND - HE'S STILL WRONG!!!!! They still don't caulculate actual market value. They come up with a market value rate.  An actual adjuster would come to your home, take comparibles and look at why your home might be different, They'll look at how old the furnace is, how recently it was painted, what the roof age is et.c

The tax people don't do any of that. They just say Buildings in your area of that age with that size lot and that square footage are ON AVERAGE about xxxx dollars.  That's not market value.

 

I can attest to that. My house and property were recently re-assessed for property taxes. The town agent valued it at just over' 1/3 of market value. 

[CdnFox]

23 minutes ago, Legato said:

I can attest to that. My house and property were recently re-assessed for property taxes. The town agent valued it at just over' 1/3 of market value. 

Everyone knows this.  Your tax assessed value is always different than actual value.

Fine - so he's not a home owner and doesn't get this stuff and makes a mistake.  We're all human. But - rather than just either ignore it and move on or better yet say "oh, i thought it was different' and move on he's got to try to lie and backpeddal and retcon his statements to try to make his obvious mistake look magically true

And he does that ALL THE TIME - it baffles the imagination.

[Aristides]

28 minutes ago, Legato said:

I can attest to that. My house and property were recently re-assessed for property taxes. The town agent valued it at just over' 1/3 of market value. 

Exactly but to do that, he had to know the market value. They don't just pull a number out of their ass to access your taxable value.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Why are YOU lying? He absolutely did.

He said that the taxes are based on the selling rate.

 

Right. "BASED ON" is NOT "THE SAME." Duh

Thanks for doubling down on your lDIOCY.

Do I have to explain the DIFFERENCE, little boy? LMAO

 

[CdnFox]

45 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Right. "BASED ON" is NOT "THE SAME." Duh

 

Except he said it was based on market value.  It's not. It's based on the taxable assessment value which he thought was the same as market value

Sorry pee-wee,  he was wrong. Period full stop. The facts just don't matter to you do they.

[Nationalist]

20 hours ago, robosmith said:

 

Why are you LYING? He never said they "are the same."

Do you understand "based on"? Is English your second language? LMAO

Or are you just an lDIOT?

Don't be a plank. He was wrong.

[Aristides]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

Right. "BASED ON" is NOT "THE SAME." Duh

Thanks for doubling down on your lDIOCY.

Do I have to explain the DIFFERENCE, little boy? LMAO

 

These guys think assessors just pull a number out of their ass based on nothing when they assess a property for taxes. 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Aristides said:

These guys think assessors just pull a number out of their ass based on nothing when they assess a property for taxes. 

Hence the name?

Sorry...

[CdnFox]

10 hours ago, Aristides said:

Exactly but to do that, he had to know the market value. They don't just pull a number out of their ass to access your taxable value.

They basically pull the number out of their ass.

They look at the average sale prices in the area for things that are similar and wing it. They do NOT attempt to determine market value for any individual place. They just say "well looks like 2500 sq foot homes that are 20 years old in your area go for xxxx dollars so - we'll say yours is about that much.

THey will not take into account you got a new roof this year.  They won't care about the heat pump you just put in or the granite counter tops.

So no. At no time will they look at the market value of the home in any way. They will do a ballpark estimate for all homes of that type and size etc in the area.

How are you not getting this?  God DAMN it you're stupid. You can call up bc assessment tomorrow and ask them, do your estimates reflect actual market values even before deductions?  ANd they'll say "Not really'.

[Rebound]

12 hours ago, Legato said:

I can attest to that. My house and property were recently re-assessed for property taxes. The town agent valued it at just over' 1/3 of market value. 

And did you then file an objection with the assessor, claiming that your house was worth even less? 

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

They basically pull the number out of their ass.

They look at the average sale prices in the area for things that are similar and wing it. They do NOT attempt to determine market value for any individual place. They just say "well looks like 2500 sq foot homes that are 20 years old in your area go for xxxx dollars so - we'll say yours is about that much.

THey will not take into account you got a new roof this year.  They won't care about the heat pump you just put in or the granite counter tops.

So no. At no time will they look at the market value of the home in any way. They will do a ballpark estimate for all homes of that type and size etc in the area.

How are you not getting this?  God DAMN it you're stupid. You can call up bc assessment tomorrow and ask them, do your estimates reflect actual market values even before deductions?  ANd they'll say "Not really'.

Comparative value is based on MARKET VALUE which is what equivalent properties have sold for RECENTLY. Duh

What Is a Comparative Market Analysis?

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A comparative market analysis (CMA) estimates a home's price based on recently sold, similar properties in the immediate area. Real estate agents and brokers create CMA reports to help sellers set listing prices for their homes and help buyers make competitive offers. In addition, you can perform your own comparative market analysis by researching comparable properties (known as "comps") on real estate listing sites, such as realtor.com.

Assessments ARE BASED ON CMA NOT EQUIVALENT TO.

[Legato]

10 hours ago, Rebound said:

And did you then file an objection with the assessor, claiming that your house was worth even less? 

Yes, and the assessment was lowered to to be conducive with other similar properties in the area.

[CdnFox]

10 hours ago, robosmith said:

Comparative value is based on MARKET VALUE which is what equivalent properties have sold for RECENTLY. Duh

Nope. And this is a subject i know very intimately.

To assess market value you have to look at more than just the average in the area.  You look at the average, and then adjust for why your particular property may be worth more or less. For example - maybe it's got a great view.  The city assessment would give a 10th floor unit with a gorgeous view of the city the same valuation as a first floor unit with no view.

Maybe it was just painted and roofed - that adds a lot of value but doesn't show up  in the city average. Likewise, maybe it's got a failing roof and foundation damage - that would drastically lower it's value but doesn't show up in the city assessment.

It is NOT based on market value at all. It is loosely based on averages in the area.  AND its a year old by the time it comes out, so your current assessed value is nothing remotely close to the current market value.

I'll say this a last time - you're looking like an utter ****** to anyone who knows anything about this - tax assesment value is NOT market value and usually they're not even close. It's not a debate, you can't twist words to somehow magically make it true, it is NOT based on actual market value, it is not a reflection of or derivative of market value, it's not even an adjusted market value.

Honestly you're really embarrassing yourself here, as in way more than normal.  It's literally like arguing the earth is flat. It just isn't.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Nope. And this is a subject i know very intimately.

To assess market value you have to look at more than just the average in the area.  You look at the average, and then adjust for why your particular property may be worth more or less. For example - maybe it's got a great view.  The city assessment would give a 10th floor unit with a gorgeous view of the city the same valuation as a first floor unit with no view.

Maybe it was just painted and roofed - that adds a lot of value but doesn't show up  in the city average. Likewise, maybe it's got a failing roof and foundation damage - that would drastically lower it's value but doesn't show up in the city assessment.

It is NOT based on market value at all. It is loosely based on averages in the area.  AND its a year old by the time it comes out, so your current assessed value is nothing remotely close to the current market value.

I'll say this a last time - you're looking like an utter ****** to anyone who knows anything about this - tax assesment value is NOT market value and usually they're not even close. It's not a debate, you can't twist words to somehow magically make it true, it is NOT based on actual market value, it is not a reflection of or derivative of market value, it's not even an adjusted market value.

Honestly you're really embarrassing yourself here, as in way more than normal.  It's literally like arguing the earth is flat. It just isn't.

^YOUR EVIDENCE FREE OPINIONS ONLY EMBARRASS YOU.

[taxme]

On 10/3/2023 at 12:16 PM, robosmith said:

Didn't FOS LIES tell you about the summary guilty of fraud judgement?

Got Trump's attention and he showed up to glower at the judge for the penalty phase. LMAO

Nope, But I am pretty sure that Trump will dispute and appeal any decisions made against him. Trump is a fighter, and not a giver upper. Trump will fight these Marxists in the judicial justice system in America to the fullest extent of the law. 

Trump showed up at his trial just to let them know that he will not be intimidated by a Marxist appointed bought off demonrat judge. There is questions being spoken about where this judge may find himself in trouble with the law himself. This judge does have a hatred and bias towards Trump. his big smile in court the other day shows us all that. 

Trump will be the one doing the LMAO after he his found not guilty on all charges. There was no fraud because no one came forward to say that there was any fraud committed. No fraud complaint or committed, no charge. Period. ?

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, taxme said:

Nope, But I am pretty sure that Trump will dispute and appeal any decisions made against him. Trump is a fighter, and not a giver upper. Trump will fight these Marxists in the judicial justice system in America to the fullest extent of the law. 

Trump showed up at his trial just to let them know that he will not be intimidated by a Marxist appointed bought off demonrat judge. There is questions being spoken about where this judge may find himself in trouble with the law himself. This judge does have a hatred and bias towards Trump. his big smile in court the other day shows us all that. 

Trump will be the one doing the LMAO after he his found not guilty on all charges. There was no fraud because no one came forward to say that there was any fraud committed. No fraud complaint or committed, no charge. Period. ?

Let us know when Trump's appeal gets his CONVICTION overturned. LMAO

Until then, he is a CONVICTED FRAUD but still defended by the likes of YOU.

Maybe you can pick up Trump Tower cheap at the liquidation sale. 

[taxme]

On 10/3/2023 at 1:58 PM, Hodad said:

I can't escape the thought that you're referring to the Confederate States of America.

He is referring to the Marxist state of America. Get things right, will you, lefty. ?

[taxme]

11 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Let us know when Trump's appeal gets his CONVICTION overturned. LMAO

Until then, he is a CONVICTED FRAUD but still defended by the likes of YOU.

Maybe you can pick up Trump Tower cheap at the liquidation sale. 

I will rub it in your clown face when his convictions are overturned. Lol. 

In your lefty liberal mind, Trump is a convicted fraud. The appeal will show that Trump has not committed any fraud. There is no fraud because no one has come forward to claim that Trump committed fraud against him. The only one that is trying to convict Trump on fraud is that Marxist bitotch AG of New York. As soon as the biotch became the AG, her main goal was to try and nail Trump on something. She is just another lying demonrat that is running scared from the possibility of Trump becoming the next President of America. And when Trump does become President, he will seek revenge against her sorry ass. A lot of demonrats are terrified that Trump will become the next President. Go get them Trump, Ya baby. ? 

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, taxme said:

I will rub it in your clown face when his convictions are overturned. Lol. 

In your lefty liberal mind, Trump is a convicted fraud. The appeal will show that Trump has not committed any fraud. There is no fraud because no one has come forward to claim that Trump committed fraud against him. The only one that is trying to convict Trump on fraud is that Marxist bitotch AG of New York. As soon as the biotch became the AG, her main goal was to try and nail Trump on something. She is just another lying demonrat that is running scared from the possibility of Trump becoming the next President of America. And when Trump does become President, he will seek revenge against her sorry ass. A lot of demonrats are terrified that Trump will become the next President. Go get them Trump, Ya baby. ? 

Too bad ^this OPINION MEANS NOTHING in COURT. LMAO

[robosmith]

9 minutes ago, taxme said:

He is referring to the Marxist state of America. Get things right, will you, lefty. ?

Well according to ^you, "Marxist state" beats the crap out of Canada economically. LMAO

Must be due to your universal healthcare which "Marxist state" does NOT HAVE.

[taxme]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Too bad ^this OPINION MEANS NOTHING in COURT. LMAO

Well, when one is a conservative and one has to deal with a demonrat appointed judge, what does Trump expect. A guilty verdict no matter what. I prefer to cry instead at how here in Canada and America both our justice system's have been taken over by a bunch of communists lovers. ?

[Legato]

31 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Maybe you can pick up Trump Tower cheap at the liquidation sale. 

What liquids, beer, spirits, wine?

[robosmith]

11 minutes ago, taxme said:

Well, when one is a conservative and one has to deal with a demonrat appointed judge, what does Trump expect. A guilty verdict no matter what. I prefer to cry instead at how here in Canada and America both our justice system's have been taken over by a bunch of communists lovers. ?

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“Every time the radical Democrats indict me, I consider it a great honor. Because I’m being indicted for you.” — Trump  

 

 

Do you believe ALL of Trump's bullshit? LMAO

[Aristides]

20 minutes ago, taxme said:

Well, when one is a conservative and one has to deal with a demonrat appointed judge, what does Trump expect. A guilty verdict no matter what. I prefer to cry instead at how here in Canada and America both our justice system's have been taken over by a bunch of communists lovers. ?

So if a liberal is convicted by a Trump appointed judge, is that conviction automatically bullshit?

Edited October 5, 2023 by Aristides

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

^YOUR EVIDENCE FREE OPINIONS ONLY EMBARRASS YOU.

Oooops - did you get triggered?  

Sorry kid - every homeowner knows i'm right and its easy to verify.  I realize you're angry and upset over the truth - but you have to remember the knowledge and opinion of an adult DOES matter more than yours.