I am Groot Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) The Liberals have no morality when it comes to votes. So sure, they could be giving them their backdoor support for votes. Why wouldn't they? This is the party that refused to outlaw or condemn the Tamil Tigers during their savage attacks in Sri Lanka because of a few Toronto ridings that had high Tamil voter numbers they wanted. Plus, they're led by a man whose every waking minute is spent trying to figure out how to make himself more popular. Edited September 22, 2023 by I am Groot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 45 minutes ago, jatt47 said: Eh, it'll lead to Sikhs being able to open carry shotguns the way they can ਕਿਰਪਾਨ That would make it a lot easier to spot the violent extremists, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) No question Sikhs are on the macho side of the ledger, if I may generalize more than a little bit. It’s a martial faith like Islam. My wife’s people were Biharis, also quick to anger. I think I’m more comfortable with Southern Indians, an easier-going crowd. Edited September 22, 2023 by SpankyMcFarland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: No question Sikhs are on the macho side of the ledger, if I may generalize more than a little bit. It’s a martial faith like Islam. My wife’s people were Biharis, also quick to anger. I think I’m more comfortable with Southern Indians, an easier-going crowd. I don't think a group can survive their without a lot of backbone. Lots of cultures in that area were swept away by islam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 17 hours ago, blackbird said: t is wrong when almost all the Sikh immigrants from India are doing it within Canada. Generalize a lot? A Sikh friend told me he didn't give two shits about Khalistan. They already had a homeland in SurreyLanka, New Dhelta and Ahmetsford.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 minute ago, jatt47 said: Yes, because mere practice of a religion = violent extremist in the racist mind. No: saying that you should be carrying firearms around Surrey is absurd, and makes you look like a religious extremist. FYI this thread has nothing to do with Sikhs going to work, raising their children, and paying their taxes. It's about a guy who funded terrorism and wanted Canada to interfere in a huge way Indian politics, hoping to bring about a "change" (partition) which has a really good chance of resulting in countless deaths. If I was racist, why would I care about deaths in India, genius? That makes no sense. FYI it's 100% certain that there are some terrorists within Canada's Sikh community. The conversation isn't about that at all. We're well past it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted September 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 34 minutes ago, herbie said: Generalize a lot? A Sikh friend told me he didn't give two shits about Khalistan. Yes, one out of 800,000. Maybe you didn't watch the television news lately, but there were large crowds of them all carrying Kalistan signs. There are 800,000 Sikhs in Canada. They held a referendum and protests with signs recently. I would be willing to believe the great majority favour separation from India to form Khalistan. Seems to be a large part of their religion to have their own state, maybe a Sikh theocracy. Kind of like Islam. Why did they even bother coming to Canada if that is what they are obsessed with? Why did we let all these kind of people into Canada? Liberal votes of course. This has created a monster for the government to deal with. The government is helpless now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, blackbird said: They held a referendum and protests with signs recently. The referendum was in Surrey, at Tamanawis School, which is at about 124th St. I've seen signs as far out as 260th St in Langley, but I have no doubt that there are signs up out in Abbotsford as well. There is a very large Indian community out there. The word "referendum" is troublesome imo, as it almost always refers to a binding vote. The word "survey" or "poll" would be far more appropriate, neither of which carry decision-making clout. Edited September 22, 2023 by WestCanMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, herbie said: Generalize a lot? A Sikh friend told me he didn't give two shits about Khalistan. They already had a homeland in SurreyLanka, New Dhelta and Ahmetsford.... we don't always agree but that's funny right there Probably true as well - chances are most don't go for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 55 minutes ago, jatt47 said: So does a long beard, turban, kirpan or any other list of criteria to an external observer. Don't run to accusations of RACISM just because your feelings got hurt. Are you even gonna try to make the case that Nijjar wasn't a terrorist? Can you do that? Or do you just think it's ok? Quote Among the ਖਾਲਸਾ weapons are praised. Regulating a people based on what some other group might think is submission. Well if you're in this country you'll submit to our laws, so there's that. If you decide not to submit, and you wanna run around with a shotgun, let me know. I'll bring some popcorn down there and see how long your anti-submission fun lasts. Quote Edit - also if everyone carried guns then you wouldn't look like an outlier. Not everyone should be carrying guns. Quote British wanted to keep 5 Sikh Regiments in their army post independence. They're hella fine warriors. Why not? Quote The same ones scuttling that deal (think of how culturally impactful that'd be post 9/11) are assassinating Sikhs abroad now.. ਅਕਾਲ That part didn't make sense. Are you saying Britain scuttled the deal that they wanted and now they're assassinating Sikhs all over the world? If India scuttled that deal that makes sense, maybe they didn't want to lose those soldiers, but they aren't killing their own soldiers. Just exactly how many Sikhs are being murdered in India and abroad? AFAIK there were 2 terror suspects that were murdered here in Canada in the last 40 years. If the gov't was killing a couple Hell's angels every 40 years I wouldn't give a crap. Why do you get upset when a guy like Nijjar gets killed? Are you worried about the affront to Canada's sovereignty too? Are you going to try to make the case that he wasn't a terrorist? Do you think that it was wrong to kill him even if he was a terrorist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, jatt47 said: So does a long beard, turban, kirpan or any other list of criteria to an external observer. The guy makes a valid point and you try to play the race card? I am curiuos - Do you feel that makes your argument MORE valid? Do you think people respect your opinion MORE when you do that? You're not concerned people would see you as an ignorant bigot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Oh FFS don't accuse people of racism just because they're being racist, eh? A bunch of people with a common cause waving signs must be an organization they're all members of too, huh? Just like you heard of a homosexual pedophile so they must all be pedophiles'' "Someone" just shot another supporter in Winnipeg now. Must be an utter coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 minute ago, herbie said: Oh FFS don't accuse people of racism just because they're being racist, eh? It's racist to say that people carrying guns in downtown surrey is absurd? Which race is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, jatt47 said: It's racist to say the Sikh practice of Weapons Worship is violent extremism. Not going to hear anything else on it.. Oh - so you're an intolerant bigot with no logical or reasoned argument who's mad because "muh feels" Gotcha. Yeah you're really not reinforcing that stereotype at all or anything. You go kiddo!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) Abbotsford has a very large Sikh population and the oldest Sikh temple in North America. Seems to be a non issue in this community, it didn't even make the local paper this week. Front page was all about SOGI demonstrations. This movement seems to be pretty much a Surrey thing. Edited September 23, 2023 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, jatt47 said: The replacement will continue until morale improves. Yeah... that's not the quote.... that doesn't even make sense. Well - it's not like anyone expected much from you. Quote The stereotypes exist in your head alongside the voices! I take it you're talking to your mirror Quote ਅਕਾਲ אתה טיפש Edited September 23, 2023 by CdnFox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 32 minutes ago, jatt47 said: Starbucks > tim hortons ?⚔️ ਅਕਾਲ Most sensible thing you've said so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 We’re focused on our issues here, what we did wrong, but an emerging superpower will change that. Modi’s illiberal regime targets Christians, Muslims, Dalits and secular Hindus, both at home and abroad. The campaign is not as centrally directed as the one from our friends in Beijing but there’s no doubt the government approves. Quote Jangam is one of several Canadian academics whose work relates to India who say they are being harassed and threatened by diaspora groups for being critical of both the country's politics under Prime Minister Narendra Modi's ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and Hindutva, the right-wing political ideology it espouses. "There is a growing violence against Muslims and Dalits," said Jangam, who is Dalit — the lowest strata of the Hindu caste system. It's a group previously called "untouchables" because their low status meant they weren't even touched by others. "I come from that background. I have a social responsibility and also moral responsibility to speak out." https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/academics-harassed-criticism-india-politics-1.6402486 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) On 9/22/2023 at 12:28 PM, I am Groot said: The Liberals have no morality when it comes to votes. So sure, they could be giving them their backdoor support for votes. Why wouldn't they? This is the party that refused to outlaw or condemn the Tamil Tigers during their savage attacks in Sri Lanka because of a few Toronto ridings that had high Tamil voter numbers they wanted. Plus, they're led by a man whose every waking minute is spent trying to figure out how to make himself more popular. I don’t think any mention of Tamil Tiger savagery is fair without including the decades of injustice faced by Tamils in Sri Lanka. Quite apart from the war, there’s another reason so many left. They were punished relentlessly for their success in business and academics. What is utterly disgraceful but not surprising is the fact that Canada treated such migrants far better than India, their ancestral home: https://jrs.net/en/story/after-40-years-sri-lankan-tamil-refugees-in-india-need-durable-solutions/ Edited September 24, 2023 by SpankyMcFarland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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