Ontario terror suspect railed against ‘far-left,’ cited ‘grooming’ conspiracies immediately after killing Muslim family

[Zeitgeist]

19 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

These occurences are pretty rare in Canada. When an attack against members of a particular faith community occurs, other communities rally around the victims. I recall when a Synagogue was spray painted with anti-semetic symbols, the local Islamic and Christian communities helped clean it up. That was just one of many instances that come to mind. Among the religious organizastions in Canada, there is far more unity than disunity. 

Our problem is a small group of mostly men, who feel ignored and isolated in society and who think hurting innocent people will get them the attention they crave. I mentioned Nazis after the war were found to be mentally normal, but another revelation of the studies was that many had one common trait. Banality. These were people who were non-entities in society and the NSDAP gave them a vehicle to become "important." Your local SA-Fuhrer may have been a junior bank clerk in his day job, but nobody messed with him. 

So under those assumptions, which I think are quite astute, extremism is mostly a result of power imbalances or perceived power imbalances and desperate attempts among those who feel disempowered to assert dominance.

I’d add that we don’t have as many ways to make people feel heard and part of the community as we used to.  I always cite Fulford’s Bowling Alone.  There used to be many social clubs and community events.  It was harder to feel isolated.  The internet tends to tribalize people into separate camps as the algorithms feed people’s particular beliefs rather than challenge them.  Also, anonymity prevents us from seeing ourselves and others as real people with feelings and frailties.

There are certain unresolved difficulties that most people face: Not everyone can win.  Not everyone has equal levels of talent, strength or beauty, or is born into the same level of privilege or circumstances.

Generally people lean on their particular strengths and over time those who are consistently effective in an area are recognized as such, but equality is elusive and the world is unfair.

 I think if conditions reach a boiling point for someone who is unstable or deeply frustrated, it can erupt into evil acts. The problem of evil is something we must deal with, which is why we have incarceration.  I’m not sure it’s entirely solvable because it’s present wherever people exist.  

Edited September 17, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

 I think if conditions reach a boiling point for someone who is unstable or deeply frustrated, it can erupt into evil acts. The problem of evil is something we must deal with, which is why we have incarceration.  I’m not sure it’s entirely solvable because it’s present wherever people exist.  

the entire Anglosphere is degenerating into Weimarizaition

the systems of governance are breaking down into chaotic ideological civil conflict

the entire economy is propped up by runaway money printing

incarceration will not save us

Adolf Hitler was imprisoned for his attempted putsch

and he simply became exponentially more influential as a result

the Third Reich was in fact all planned & empowered from behind bars

[Zeitgeist]

25 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

the entire Anglosphere is degenerating into Weimarizaition

the systems of governance are breaking down into chaotic ideological civil conflict

the entire economy is propped up by runaway money printing

incarceration will not save us

Adolf Hitler was imprisoned for his attempted putsch

and he simply became exponentially more influential as a result

the Third Reich was in fact all planned & empowered from behind bars

I see much of what happened with the rise of Hitler as a result of the winner takes all attitude of the victors at the Treaty of Versailles.  It’s why instead of making a conquered Germany pay reparations at the end of WW2, we instead got the Martial Plan, which actually helped rebuild Germany and Japan.

Analogously, we have to be careful that we’re not making the same mistake with Russia.  We won the Cold War and turned many of the former Soviet satellites over to NATO while excluding Russia.  If you push people too hard there will be a reaction.  Yes sometimes the people aren’t in agreement with a country’s leadership, which becomes oppressive to its citizens, but so far Putin has most Russians on-side with a narrative about Russia being mistreated that has at least some validity.  I know people have strong feelings about this, so I won’t go further.

Getting back to the issue of this unhinged act of evil against a Muslim family, what could make someone so out of touch with basic human decency?  I don’t think there can be any excuse except insanity or evil.  Either way, such a person can’t be allowed access to the general public.

Edited September 17, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

28 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Generally people lean on their particular strengths and over time those who are consistently effective in an area are recognized as such, but equality is elusive and the world is unfair.

but the status quo is exponentially unfair beyond mere happenstance

when we were young, everyone said " future generations will suffer the consequences of the debt "

well the fact is, that future is now

the future consequences have arrived

what are the consequences ?

we the older generations are holding all the assets

the younger generations are being forced to pay the debt ; by way of inflating the money supply

this is inciting a generational class war

which the vested establishment is trying to deflect, by making it into a race war

welcome to the dystopic future which we predicted would come to pass, decades ago

[Zeitgeist]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but the status quo is exponentially unfair beyond mere happenstance

when we were young, everyone said " future generations will suffer the consequences of the debt "

well the fact is, that future is now

the future consequences have arrived

what are the consequences ?

we the older generations are holding all the assets

the younger generations are being forced to pay the debt ; by way of inflating the money supply

this is inciting a generational class war

which the vested establishment is trying to deflect, by making it into a race war

welcome to the dystopic future which we predicted would come to pass, decades ago

Yes and it gets more complicated with A.I., transhumanism (nice Blade Runner connection), and the totalitarian forces that want to change human behaviour at all costs to “keep is safe” from disease and the “climate crisis”.   The only defence is a highly responsive pro-human, pro democracy, pro responsibility, pro Canada leadership that actually works for the people.  I’m not holding my breath.

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I see much of what happened with the rise of Hitler as a result of the winner takes all attitude of the victors at the Treaty of Versailles.  It’s why instead of making a conquered Germany pay reparations at the end of WW2, we instead got the Martial Plan, which actually helped rebuild Germany and Japan.

Analogously, we have to be careful that we’re not making the same mistake with Russia.  We won the Cold War and turned many of the former Soviet satellites over to NATO while excluding Russia.  If you push people too hard there will be a reaction.  Yes sometimes the people aren’t in agreement with a country’s leadership, which becomes oppressive to its citizens, but so far Putin has most Russians on-side with a narrative about Russia being mistreated that has at least some validity.  I know people have strong feelings about this, so I won’t go further.

Getting back to the issue of this unhinged act of evil against a Muslim family, what could make someone so out of touch with basic human decency?  I don’t think there can be any excuse except insanity or evil.  Either way, such a person can’t be allowed access to the general public.

but we did not destroy the Russian Empire

the Russian Empire was cousin to the British Empire

Communism destroyed the Russian Empire

we couldn't save the Soviets from themselves

we can't save the Russian mafia state from itself

and they are armed with over 6,000 thermonuclear warheads

so we cannot afford to be naive, trying to appease the Kremlin run amok by its own ludicrous conspiracy theories

the KGB is not a rational actor

when the Kremlin is employing the Soviet strategic doomsday arsenal to impose nuclear blackmail

we are forced to man the Trace once again in the face of it

[Zeitgeist]

13 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but we did not destroy the Russian Empire

the Russian Empire was cousin to the British Empire

Communism destroyed the Russian Empire

we couldn't save the Soviets from themselves

we can't save the Russian mafia state from itself

and they are armed with over 6,000 thermonuclear warheads

so we cannot afford to be naive, trying to appease the Kremlin run amok by its own ludicrous conspiracy theories

the KGB is not a rational actor

when the Kremlin is employing the Soviet strategic doomsday arsenal to impose nuclear blackmail

we are forced to man the Trace once again in the face of it

Yes, but you remember all the deaths through Cold War proxy wars: “Fight them there instead of here.”   The Neocon military industrial complex that runs the State Department, along with Big Pharma who have an outsized influence over government and mainstream media, are complicating and obfuscating our democracy and free press.  It’s hard to separate fact from the propaganda of the stakeholder capitalist partnerships between government and business.  It’s hard to see where international interests override our national interests and naive politicians like Trudeau become duped Manchurian Candidates.  My only resolution is to continue to try to understand what the hell is going on and do my best to help family and community.  We say our pieces on national and international issues and hope the public sees good sense and votes accordingly.  Yes, we must face Russia with a broad sword, but the sword of justice requires that we reflect on the ways that we ourselves push people and countries to the brink of evil.  This is as true on domestic issues like the culture wars as it is on the battlefields. One is an ideological reflection of the other.  I believe it’s really a spiritual battle we fight each day.

Edited September 17, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yes and it gets more complicated with A.I., transhumanism (nice Blade Runner connection), and the totalitarian forces that want to change human behaviour at all costs to “keep is safe” from disease and the “climate crisis”.   The only defence is a highly responsive pro-human, pro democracy, pro responsibility, pro Canada leadership that actually works for the people.  I’m not holding my breath.

you might as well call the Mellenials the Replicants

because they are indeed a sub class which we are using to prop our assets up

and Canada didn't even birth enough Millennials to pull it off

so now Canada is importing immigrants to do it, bypassing the Millennials with an endless supply of imports

Boomers & Gen X are the over class

Millennials & Zoomers are the under class

we drive our Tesla's out of two car garages in fully detached homes

while they take the bus from their basement apartments to serve us at the drive through

the younger generations have no purpose in life, other than being menial servants

and if they so much as step out of line in the slightest, the militarized police state will crack down upon them

the young are not free by the standards we were raised under

 

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yes, but you remember all the deaths through Cold War proxy wars: “Fight them there instead of here.” 

I don't see that as being a bad thing

since the alternative was not peace, but rather direct confrontation on the central front

moreover, our side was fighting in defence of civilization itself, while their side was fighting for totalitarianism

to wit, as badly executed as the Vietnam War was

it was still a noble cause,

South Vietnam may have been filthy

but it was filthy & free in a classical liberal sense

[Zeitgeist]

13 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

you might as well call the Mellenials the Replicants

because they are indeed a sub class which we are using to prop our assets up

and Canada didn't even birth enough Millennials to pull it off

so now Canada is importing immigrants to do it, bypassing the Millennials with an endless supply of imports

Boomers & Gen X are the over class

Millennials & Zoomers are the under class

we drive our Tesla's out of two car garages in fully detached homes

while they take the bus from their basement apartments to serve us at the drive through

the younger generations have no purpose in life, other than being menial servants

and if they so much as step out of line in the slightest, the militarized police state will crack down upon them

the young are not free by the standards we were raised under

 

But bloated socialist redistribution won’t save the kids.  It will create the Hunger Games Meets Brave New World Meets 1984.  Only freedom and opportunity will save them, I think. That means upward mobility through lower living costs and deregulation of the markets. It means kicking out the climate/public health/identity politics authoritarians, who are basically elites trying to purify the planet for themselves at everyone else’s expense.  

Edited September 17, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

But bloated socialist redistribution won’t save the kids.  It will create the Hunger Games Meets Brave New World Meets 1984.  Only freedom and opportunity will save them, I think. That means upward mobility through lower living costs and deregulation of the markets. It means kicking out the climate/public health/identity politics authoritarians, who are basically elites trying to purify the planet for themselves at everyone else’s expense.  

more of them seem to be realizing that everyday

there is a cohort which is being indoctrinated by the University academics to be Communist traitors

but any young person I encounter who works for a living these days has become very conservative

but there could indeed be an overshoot into Fascism from here

if the economy implodes in Weimar Republic fashion

which is the trajectory at this juncture

the young are already at the threshold of poverty

if they get dropped into an abyss from here

revanchism will burn out of control in a firestorm

[Zeitgeist]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

more of them seem to be realizing that everyday

there is a cohort which is being indoctrinated by the University academics to be Communist traitors

but any young person I encounter who works for a living these days has become very conservative

but there could indeed be an overshoot into Fascism from here

if the economy implodes in Weimar Republic fashion

which is the trajectory at this juncture

the young are already at the threshold of poverty

if they get dropped into an abyss from here

revanchism will burn out of control in a firestorm

Eliminate carbon taxes, slash government spending on fluff programs, allow portable housing on former industrial and abandoned lands as well as parts of the Greenbelt, deregulate and boost energy supply, restrict governments’ spending and scope.  Slash taxes across the board.  End the funding of DEI departments.  I think those are starts.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Eliminate carbon taxes, slash government spending on fluff programs, allow portable housing on former industrial and abandoned lands as well as parts of the Greenbelt, deregulate and boost energy supply, restrict governments’ spending and scope.  Slash taxes across the board.  End the funding of DEI departments.  I think those are starts.

I think it's too late already

the die was cast many years ago

the effects of moral hazard have been decades in the making

it can't be solved at this juncture

it's an inflationary debt crisis

the inflation of the money supply is being imposed by the exponential debt burden

if you raise interest rates to constrain inflation, that will cause a catastrophe

if you don't raise interest rates to constrain inflation, that will cause a catastrophe

there is no preparation for doom, except grace

the only salvation is the road to Calvary

walk with the Nazarene to find peace, order & good governance ; love thine enemies

God save the King ;  Sovereign, Head of State, Commander-in-Chief, Defender of the Faith

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

When a minority government feels like a dictatorship, well, clearly we’ve lost the plot. 

It is just acting like a majority government. Nothing more.

[Zeitgeist]

30 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I think it's too late already

the die was cast many years ago

the effects of moral hazard have been decades in the making

it can't be solved at this juncture

it's an inflationary debt crisis

the inflation of the money supply is being imposed by the exponential debt burden

if you raise interest rates to constrain inflation, that will cause a catastrophe

if you don't raise interest rates to constrain inflation, that will cause a catastrophe

there is no preparation for doom, except grace

the only salvation is the road to Calvary

walk with the Nazarene to find peace, order & good governance ; love thine enemies

God save the King ;  Sovereign, Head of State, Commander-in-Chief, Defender of the Faith

Yet our government continues throw around our money and drive us further into debt so they can look good “on the world stage”.  Millions of dollars in funding announcements each month that have nothing to do with helping Canadians.  This government doesn’t work for Canadians.

[Dougie93]

43 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

 This government doesn’t work for Canadians.

because this is not even a government anymore

this is a cultural revolution seeking to overthrow the very foundations of our civilization

straight out of Maoist China

the Chinese Communist Party in Beijing awaits the self inflicted overthrow of the Dominion

prepared to colonize the wilderness which comes in the wake

rage, rage, against the dying of the light  ~ Dylan Thomas

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

This was a Canadian tragedy. Why are some of you bringing in foreign politics? I doubt the accused is mentally ill. Like many people who do terrible things, I suspect he wanted to be noticed and live out a violence fantasy.

So the person has psychotic fantasies and firmly believes that the democrats are out to get him.... but that's not a mental health issue in your opinion.

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After the war, the surviving Nazi concentration camp guards underwent psychiatric examinations and few showed any mental abnormalities.

For that to be remotely relevant you'd have to demonstrate that they did the job because they enjoyed it.  Many of them were horrified. Not even in the same ball park.

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The source of the misinformation that led to his action was neither left or right wing. The source is from psychopaths who post this garbage in order to make money. They are the same scammers who promote the false narratives that deny climate change etc.

That is not accurate.  I hear false claims like these all the time. So do you i'm sure. But neither of us (hopefully) feels compeled to shoot people up over it.

But for the emotionally fragile who feel persecuted and isolated this kind of thing can be upsetting to the point where they feel hopeless and that there's no other solution. ANd then they make bad choices.  Feeling that your situation is hopeless and it's someone else's fault are two of the hallmarks of mass killers of any stripe.

So - who made them feel that way? Who says white males are garbage daily? Who tells people like him every day that slavery is their fault, theyr'e privlidged, that they must convert their children to a different sex or they're monsters, that they're deplorable, that they're the worst people on earth? Who says they're mysoginists and bigots who shoudn't be tolerated if they don't like the idea of getting an injection? Who literally says those people should  die?

That is where this starts.  The rampant spreading of hatred and conflict from the left creates the opening for those who are mentally fragile or suseptable to flee to the extreme positions to feel protected, and this kind of thing happens.

[Moonbox]

3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yes, but you remember all the deaths through Cold War proxy wars: “Fight them there instead of here.”   The Neocon military industrial complex that runs the State Department, along with Big Pharma who have an outsized influence over government and mainstream media, are complicating and obfuscating our democracy and free press.  It’s hard to separate fact from the propaganda of the stakeholder capitalist partnerships between government and business.  It’s hard to see where international interests override our national interests and naive politicians like Trudeau become duped Manchurian Candidates.  

Always funny watching you spit out boiler-plate conspiracy slogans.  ?

[BeaverFever]

On 9/16/2023 at 10:56 AM, Zeitgeist said:

Do you think that attempting to imprison the lead candidate for president in the conservative opposition by throwing 90 indictments at him is ending the culture wars or stoking them?

You cant let a criminal commit crimes with impunity simply because he decided to run for public office at age 70.  Republicans demanding that society turn a blind eye to their leader’s blatant crimes and treasonous attacks on democracy is what stokes the culture war.   Trump doesn’t get a free pass just because he and his cabal of grifters command a fanatical cult of partisans, vulgarians, extremist crackpots and gullible fools who are willing to rampage on his behalf.
 

On 9/16/2023 at 10:56 AM, Zeitgeist said:

Do you think that woke cancel culture is inclusive and encourages dialogue or does it shut out people and radicalize less stable people on the fringe?

Extremism can result from desperation.  It also arises from insanity.  Desperation can push the mentally unstable into destructive territory.  

LMAO do you think conservatives LITERAL opposition to inclusiveness is inclusive. I mean conservatives attack “Diversity Equity and Inclusion” as official policy. Do you think the anti-LGBTQ crusade is inclusive?  
 

This is more of the conservatives’ “I demand you tolerate my intolerance “ nonsense that conservatives fist used against Muslims for most of the last 20+ years since 9/11 and what motivated this terrorist and the Quebec and New Zealand mosque massacre terrorists. What a joke. 
 

Also interesting to see republican la justify extremism while at the same time denying other groups the se right. What about the desperation of Palestinians, Blacks and First Nations?  In those cases conservatives say its no excuse. Once again you show you have a double standard for yourselves.  
 

There will alway be disturbed extremists who will go too far which is why politicians have a responsibility not to stoke hatred the way the right did first against Muslims then against LGBTQ and the left more generally. 

[BeaverFever]

23 hours ago, blackbird said:

the phony climate change agenda, the carbon tax attack on Canadians, and the endless divisiveness caused by Trudeau.  Then there is the U.N.'s attempts to control the world and form a one-world-government.  These are not conspiracies.

Yes by definition they literally ARE conspiracies. The belief that there’s a secret plot to form a one world government is not a conspiracy???  How do you even say that with a straight face? LMAO

23 hours ago, blackbird said:

To complain about the insane government policies that have caused outrageous costs of homes, high costs of food, and other things is not hyperbole or hysteria.  Teaching little kids perversion in schools is a reality.  It is plain facts.

The right does more than simply “complain” it indulges in conspiracies hyperbole and invective as I mentioned. Conservatives don’t simply say “policy x is unwise”. They say “POLICY X IS A SECRET PLOT TO RAPE YOUR CHILDREN!!!  WE’RE ALL DOOMED!  THE TIME FOR “ACTION” IS NOW!!!!”  And they say that on every issue and every topic.   The right doesn’t deal in facts it deals in conspiracies and hysteria Any facts they end up reciting are just for convenience. They don’t say “Trudeau is bad leader as evidenced by his economic policy” they say “Trudeau wants to rape your children,  enslave you, and institute a communist system, as evidenced by his economics policy”. See the difference?

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

You cant let a criminal commit crimes with impunity simply because he decided to run for public office at age 70.  Republicans demanding that society turn a blind eye to their leader’s blatant crimes and treasonous attacks on democracy is what stokes the culture war.   Trump doesn’t get a free pass just because he and his cabal of grifters command a fanatical cult of partisans, vulgarians, extremist crackpots and gullible fools who are willing to rampage on his behalf.
 

LMAO do you think conservatives LITERAL opposition to inclusiveness is inclusive. I mean conservatives attack “Diversity Equity and Inclusion” as official policy. Do you think the anti-LGBTQ crusade is inclusive?  
 

This is more of the conservatives’ “I demand you tolerate my intolerance “ nonsense that conservatives fist used against Muslims for most of the last 20+ years since 9/11 and what motivated this terrorist and the Quebec and New Zealand mosque massacre terrorists. What a joke. 
 

Also interesting to see republican la justify extremism while at the same time denying other groups the se right. What about the desperation of Palestinians, Blacks and First Nations?  In those cases conservatives say its no excuse. Once again you show you have a double standard for yourselves.  
 

There will alway be disturbed extremists who will go too far which is why politicians have a responsibility not to stoke hatred the way the right did first against Muslims then against LGBTQ and the left more generally. 

You don’t seem to know the Democrats’ racist history or that the Republicans under Lincoln ended US slavery. The conservative approach is tolerance, but the radical loony left is demanding approval and grooming of kids to violate science and the religious beliefs of millions on gender and homosexual sex and marriage.  You don’t get to bring everyone down with you.

DEI is basically a pseudo-scientific return to racism, by claiming that all white people are privileged and need to be aware of how racist they are and that the way to solve problems is by interpreting all economic class distinctions and social problems as a matter of race. Being a person of colour under this scheme makes you an oppressed victim requiring that reparations and special treatment in hiring be given by white people who owe them something strictly because of their skin colour, even though the people alive today didn’t cause these problems, and even though Asians beat whites academically and financially. As racist oppressors, white people cannot think clearly or understand how the world works, so the DEI trainer must be believed and never questioned.  Ask Blitzko.  Oh no you can’t because that principal committed suicide after being shamed by a DEI pseudoscience expert.

As for Trump, maybe he did some sketchy stuff, some of it straddling the lines of criminality.  I wasn’t a Trump supporter and wasn’t there.  It’s very obvious from the volume of charges and the petty nature of most of them that they’re politically motivated.

Edited September 17, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

Always funny watching you spit out boiler-plate conspiracy slogans.  ?

You’re so blind to reality it’s sad.  Those aren’t conspiracy theories.  Get your head out of MSM and do some reading. Pharmaceuticals pay for the news you watch. The three biggest pension investment firms are redeveloping Ukraine, and the war justifies the military spending.  Everything I just said used to be considered left wing btw.  Any value the left once had as champions of workers has pretty much evaporated.  You traded food stamp programs for F-16’s.  

Edited September 17, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[BeaverFever]

13 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

You don’t seem to know the Democrats’ racist history or that the Republicans under Lincoln ended US slavery. 

The Lincoln Republicans were no conservative and the southern democrats were no liberals. In fact the southern democrats were the most conservative political block. There was no “left” or “socialism” back in those days, parties were divided not divided between “left and right” but between industrial vs rural interests, regional interests, and on slavery specifically which comes under both categories .  You should learn your history   Today it is Republicans who revere the confederate flag and confederate statues and confederate heroes and who try to whitewash slavery. 
 

19 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The conservative approach is tolerance, but the radical loony left is demanding approval and grooming of kids to violate science and the religious beliefs of millions on gender and homosexual sex and marriage.  You don’t get to bring everyone down with you.

There is nothing tolerant or scientific about conservatives and their “grooming” conspiracy lies and their constant war on science.   Homosexual sex and marriage between consenting adults is none of your business and your war on both proves your freedom rhetoric is just BS

23 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

DEI is basically a pseudo-scientific return to racism, by claiming that all white people are privileged and need to be aware of how racist they are and that the way to solve problems is by interpreting all economic class distinctions and social problems as a matter of race. Being a person of colour under this scheme makes you an oppressed victim requiring that reparations and special treatment in hiring be given by white people who owe them something strictly because of their skin colour, even though the people alive today didn’t cause these problems, and even though Asians beat whites academically and financially.  A white person cannot think clearly or understand how the world works as an oppressor, so the DEI trainer must be believed and never questioned.  Ask Blitzko.  Oh no you can’t because that principal committed suicide after being shamed by a DEI pseudoscience expert.

Anecdotes notwithstanding, you have no idea what DEI is or does and you never will. 
 

28 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

It’s very obvious from the volume of charges and the petty nature of most of them that they’re politically motivated.

The volume of charges against Trumps is the result of the volume of his crimes. Many of the charges are not petty at all and are quite serious.  Besides as he is both a former and a wanna-be POTUS he should be held to higher, not lower, legal standard.  He has already used his position and power to escape consequences for many of his actions, politics has kept him put of jail it’s not putting him in jail. 
 

 

[Zeitgeist]

30 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The Lincoln Republicans were no conservative and the southern democrats were no liberals. In fact the southern democrats were the most conservative political block. There was no “left” or “socialism” back in those days, parties were divided not divided between “left and right” but between industrial vs rural interests, regional interests, and on slavery specifically which comes under both categories .  You should learn your history   Today it is Republicans who revere the confederate flag and confederate statues and confederate heroes and who try to whitewash slavery. 
 

There is nothing tolerant or scientific about conservatives and their “grooming” conspiracy lies and their constant war on science.   Homosexual sex and marriage between consenting adults is none of your business and your war on both proves your freedom rhetoric is just BS

Anecdotes notwithstanding, you have no idea what DEI is or does and you never will. 
 

The volume of charges against Trumps is the result of the volume of his crimes. Many of the charges are not petty at all and are quite serious.  Besides as he is both a former and a wanna-be POTUS he should be held to higher, not lower, legal standard.  He has already used his position and power to escape consequences for many of his actions, politics has kept him put of jail it’s not putting him in jail. 
 

 

I got to experience the DEI nightmare first hand.  I’ve read all the BS: DiAngelo, Saad, Kendi.  We got to watch the shaming and experience the racism.  You’re no expert and clearly haven’t taken any anti-black racism training.

Feel free to destroy your own kids, but keep your groomer friends out of my kids’ schools!   It’s too late actually.  The indoctrination is well underway.  The Muslims are probably the only resistance to gender ideology left.

[Queenmandy85]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So - who made them feel that way? Who says white males are garbage daily? Who tells people like him every day that slavery is their fault, theyr'e privlidged, that they must convert their children to a different sex or they're monsters, that they're deplorable, that they're the worst people on earth? Who says they're mysoginists and bigots who shoudn't be tolerated if they don't like the idea of getting an injection? Who literally says those people should  die?

I haven't seen anything remotely like that. Rabble is pretty harsh on right wing parties like the Liberals and the CPC (their view), but I've never seen anyone on there wish anyone dead. Did you come across this in any left wing media the equivilent of Tucker Carlson and Hannity? Who says they must convert their children to a different sex. Who told the accused he is responsible for slavery, since we were a refuge for run away slaves? Can you name one person in this country who told the accused he was the worst person on earth? Did the accused ever say he didn't like the idea of getting vaccinated? 

What he did say, was he hated Muslims. At least I never heard anything about his views on slavery, mysoginy or Covid. Are you saying he was told by a left wing publication that he should hate muslims?

I'm not saying you are wrong. I just haven't seen it for myself.