McCarthy Orders Impeachment Inquiry

[Rebound]

For the first time in US history, the House of Representatives will begin an impeachment inquiry without a vote of the House of Representatives.  
 

Should President Biden order all government officials to ignore all congressional subpoenas, as President Trump did? 

[Aristides]

Democracy is such a drag to the MAGA cult.

[Nationalist]

Its about time.

[robosmith]

15 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Its about time.

Too bad they have, and will find, NO EVIDENCE of wrongdoing by Joe, and end up the laughing stock.

Unlike with Trump whom you still defend, despite reams of REAL SWORN evidence of his CRIMES which resulted in multiple indictments when presented to Grand Juries.

You've even joined his MAGA CULT calls for VIOLENCE. ?

Seems you want to join the ranks of insane backbenchers like MTG despite the long term costs.

[robosmith]

31 minutes ago, Rebound said:

For the first time in US history, the House of Representatives will begin an impeachment inquiry without a vote of the House of Representatives.  
 

Should President Biden order all government officials to ignore all congressional subpoenas, as President Trump did? 

I don't believe Democratic voters will be as forgiving of ignored subpoenas as the MAGA CULT was.

But they should go to the mat in specific instances where there is NO probable cause like just vague emails with no documented chain of custody.

[Rebound]

12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I don't believe Democratic voters will be as forgiving of ignored subpoenas as the MAGA CULT was.

But they should go to the mat in specific instances where there is NO probable cause like just vague emails with no documented chain of custody.

They’ll subpoena bank records.

Worst case: Hunter will get in trouble. But how much trouble can you get in when your dad can pardon you? 
 

They aren’t going to find payments to Joe Biden.  To be honest, I think the GOP is skating on very thin ice by going after the President’s son because these people have children too and they know they’re opening up their kids to all of this.  

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Too bad they have, and will find, NO EVIDENCE of wrongdoing by Joe, and end up the laughing stock.

Unlike with Trump whom you still defend, despite reams of REAL SWORN evidence of his CRIMES which resulted in multiple indictments when presented to Grand Juries.

You've even joined his MAGA CULT calls for VIOLENCE. ?

Seems you want to join the ranks of insane backbenchers like MTG despite the long term costs.

Good lord you carry on like a little girl.

Biden is toast.!

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Good lord you carry on like a little girl.

Bad lord, all you have is insults....

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Biden is toast.!

... and ludicrous claims.

Republicans will look like clowns compared to the very professional impeachments of Trump with REAL EVIDENCE.

Just remember, there's A REASON no vote by the House was taken. AKA, there is no case, and many Republicans didn't want to vote for it.

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

For the first time in US history, the House of Representatives will begin an impeachment inquiry without a vote of the House of Representatives.  
 

Should President Biden order all government officials to ignore all congressional subpoenas, as President Trump did? 

 

Mrs Pelosi affirmed on Tuesday that there is no need for a full chamber vote as her party's probe proceeds.

"There's no requirement that we have a vote, so at this time we will not be having a vote and I'm very pleased with the thoughtfulness of our caucus with the path that we are on," she told reporters.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50061727

[Rebound]

45 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Good lord you carry on like a little girl.

Biden is toast.!

Numb nuts: This is the first time ever an impeachment inquiry is being held without the Congress voting for it, and the reason is that they don’t have any evidence of wrongdoing by the President. 
 

Question: If Biden orders all witnesses to ignore any subpoenas in this inquiry, will that be ok with you? 

[Rebound]

26 minutes ago, Legato said:

 

Mrs Pelosi affirmed on Tuesday that there is no need for a full chamber vote as her party's probe proceeds.

"There's no requirement that we have a vote, so at this time we will not be having a vote and I'm very pleased with the thoughtfulness of our caucus with the path that we are on," she told reporters.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50061727

Nice try. They held a vote less than two weeks later:

The US House of Representatives has passed a resolution to formally proceed with the impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50246324

Edited September 12, 2023 by Rebound

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

For the first time in US history, the House of Representatives will begin an impeachment inquiry without a vote of the House of Representatives.  
 

Should President Biden order all government officials to ignore all congressional subpoenas, as President Trump did? 

Hillary wiped her arse with subpoenas before long Trump was ever falsely accused of colluding with Russia.

Kevin Clinesmith pled guilty to altering an email and presented it to the FISA court as key evidence to get an email to spy on the President of The United States and he never even lost his license to practice law, let alone went to jail. 

I don't know why Biden wouldn't ignore subpoenas now. He can literally send the FBI out to investigate anyone who dares to question him. 

[robosmith]

27 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Hillary wiped her arse with subpoenas before long Trump was ever falsely accused of colluding with Russia.

Kevin Clinesmith pled guilty to altering an email and presented it to the FISA court as key evidence to get an email to spy on the President of The United States and he never even lost his license to practice law, let alone went to jail. 

I don't know why Biden wouldn't ignore subpoenas now. He can literally send the FBI out to investigate anyone who dares to question him. 

You're LYING. The FISA court does NOT issue "email to spy" on ANYONE. LMAO

Of course that mistake was NOT the worst LIE in your post.

Like DENYING the FACT that Trump's CAMPAIGN MANAGER was colluding with Russians.

And Trump asking for help from Russians: "Russia if you're listening" please find Hillary's emails. No joke. No one was laughing.

[Rebound]

48 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Hillary wiped her arse with subpoenas before long Trump was ever falsely accused of colluding with Russia.

Kevin Clinesmith pled guilty to altering an email and presented it to the FISA court as key evidence to get an email to spy on the President of The United States and he never even lost his license to practice law, let alone went to jail. 

I don't know why Biden wouldn't ignore subpoenas now. He can literally send the FBI out to investigate anyone who dares to question him. 

No. The President of the United States cannot dispatch FBI agents. Justice Department policy is that the only Justice Department employee who communicates with the President is the Attorney General.  I think the FBI Director can communicate with him as well. 

Edited September 12, 2023 by Rebound

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

No. The President of the United States cannot dispatch FBI agents. Justice Department policy is that the only Justice Department employee who communicates with the President is the Attorney General.  I think the FBI Director can communicate with him as well. 

Let's stop playing pretend, shall we? 

The DNC can absolutely dispatch FBI agents, and Joe Biden is the head of the snake.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Rebound said:

They’ll subpoena bank records.

Worst case: Hunter will get in trouble. But how much trouble can you get in when your dad can pardon you? 
 

They aren’t going to find payments to Joe Biden.  To be honest, I think the GOP is skating on very thin ice by going after the President’s son because these people have children too and they know they’re opening up their kids to all of this.  

Sure - theres's some things that it's an unwritten rule that you just don't do,

But the dems have thrown most of those out the window - this was the predicted response. Since the steel dossier the dems have weaponized legal action as a political tool - that gate is open now.  Welcome to the new normal.

It might not turn out to be a bad thing. If everyone knows that any lawsuit possible will come there way they'll have to be more careful about pocketing money.

[Rebound]

38 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Let's stop playing pretend, shall we? 

The DNC can absolutely dispatch FBI agents, and Joe Biden is the head of the snake.

Now it’s the DNC that controls the FBI?

You believe Donald Trump, who hires only the best, appointed a man to lead the FBI who would take orders from the Democratic National Committee?  You crazy. 

[Rebound]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sure - theres's some things that it's an unwritten rule that you just don't do,

But the dems have thrown most of those out the window - this was the predicted response. Since the steel dossier the dems have weaponized legal action as a political tool - that gate is open now.  Welcome to the new normal.

It might not turn out to be a bad thing. If everyone knows that any lawsuit possible will come there way they'll have to be more careful about pocketing money.

Newsflash: The FBI investigated Russian collusion because there was probable cause to investigate it.  
 

One example: Long before all this began, the FBI met with Carter Page and warned him that they believed he was being courted by Russian agents looking to groom him for espionage.  Turns out, this is fairly standard; a lot of people in Washington get these meetings because they unknowingly get approached by a spy. A NORMAL PERSON would say, “Holy smokes!!! I had no idea! I‘ll stay a mile away from that guy!”  That would be the law abiding, normal thing to do. But Page did not. That lends credence to probable cause.  It just does.  There’s no reason to continue to communicate with such a person after being warned, unless you’re up to no good. 

[CdnFox]

36 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Newsflash: The FBI investigated Russian collusion because there was probable cause to investigate it.  
 

Newsflash - the 'probable cause' was a fake dossier given to them by the democrats.   And they got in trouble for that.

Further newsflash - they went so far as to break the law to pursue that investigation.

Final newsflash  - you're an !diot.

Then there's the huge number of other..  shall we say 'trumped up' charges? LOL

Sorry - the dems opened that door.  THere's no arguing it, that's not an opinion, that's just cold hard fact.  And they've pushed that for years.

So of course there was going to be payback. Experts and commentators alike have been saying that for quite some time, and moreso recently.

It's about 7 years too late for the dems to whine about it now.  ANd frankly - this is the tip of the iceberg.

[Rebound]

50 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Newsflash - the 'probable cause' was a fake dossier given to them by the democrats.   And they got in trouble for that.

Further newsflash - they went so far as to break the law to pursue that investigation.

Final newsflash  - you're an !diot.

Then there's the huge number of other..  shall we say 'trumped up' charges? LOL

Sorry - the dems opened that door.  THere's no arguing it, that's not an opinion, that's just cold hard fact.  And they've pushed that for years.

So of course there was going to be payback. Experts and commentators alike have been saying that for quite some time, and moreso recently.

It's about 7 years too late for the dems to whine about it now.  ANd frankly - this is the tip of the iceberg.

You are ignoring plain fact. 
Fact One: Russia DID interfere with the election. That isn’t make-believe. 
Fact Two: Trump jumped up and down and relished it. Again, not opinion. Fact. 
Fact Three: Roger Stone publicly stated that there would imminently be a release of new stolen materials, and there was. Once more: Not opinion. Fact. 
Fact Four: Long before the interference began, FBI knew that Carter Page had been approached by Russian agents, because the FBI keeps an eye on spies inside the US. When the FBI warned him about these people, Page rebuffed them and ignored the warning.  
 

These are all facts. Only the first is proof of a crime but the other three are reasonable suspicion. 

Edited September 13, 2023 by Rebound

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Newsflash - the 'probable cause' was a fake dossier given to them by the democrats.   And they got in trouble for that.

Further newsflash - they went so far as to break the law to pursue that investigation.

Final newsflash  - you're an !diot.

Then there's the huge number of other..  shall we say 'trumped up' charges? LOL

Sorry - the dems opened that door.  THere's no arguing it, that's not an opinion, that's just cold hard fact.  And they've pushed that for years.

So of course there was going to be payback. Experts and commentators alike have been saying that for quite some time, and moreso recently.

It's about 7 years too late for the dems to whine about it now.  ANd frankly - this is the tip of the iceberg.

If the investigation was so fake, why did it result in so many convictions? 

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

Bad lord, all you have is insults....

... and ludicrous claims.

Republicans will look like clowns compared to the very professional impeachments of Trump with REAL EVIDENCE.

Just remember, there's A REASON no vote by the House was taken. AKA, there is no case, and many Republicans didn't want to vote for it.

"very professional impeachment of Trump" that amounted to bubkus.

Who cares what RINOs want? Most of them are toast too.

[Nationalist]

5 hours ago, Rebound said:

Numb nuts: This is the first time ever an impeachment inquiry is being held without the Congress voting for it, and the reason is that they don’t have any evidence of wrongdoing by the President. 
 

Question: If Biden orders all witnesses to ignore any subpoenas in this inquiry, will that be ok with you? 

I don't think it matters anymore. You cultists did and are doing your best to "get Trump" and all it does is strengthen his support. On the other hand, Joe Biden is now a public disgrace. Ruined.

So do what you will...the objective has already been achieved. 

[Rebound]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

I don't think it matters anymore. You cultists did and are doing your best to "get Trump" and all it does is strengthen his support. On the other hand, Joe Biden is now a public disgrace. Ruined.

So do what you will...the objective has already been achieved. 

No you liar, I posted a link to the news article showing that the full US House of Representatives did vote to hold an impeachment inquiry of Trump, because the transcript of the call with Zelenskyy was reasonable suspicion. 

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, Rebound said:

No you liar, I posted a link to the news article showing that the full US House of Representatives did vote to hold an impeachment inquiry of Trump, because the transcript of the call with Zelenskyy was reasonable suspicion. 

Who cares? You failed. Twice.