Detailed instructions on how to murder a nation

[Moonlight Graham]

I'm done with this whole country.

Everyone is entitled, and care more about themselves than their country.  The politicians are corrupt out the wazoo and care much more about their own power than the country, and the country is going to sh!t as a result.

The people want their goodies but they don't want to pay for it with taxes.  You can't raise taxes because voters won't like it, you can't take away benefits/programs because voters won't like it.  So you charge it to the debt and let someone else pay for it.  It's a joke.  You make cuts and they demonize you like they did Mike Harris and Doug Ford and Harper.  They say they demonize them because those politicians are corrupt, which the are, but the provincial and federal Liberals are equally if not more corrupt and the same people barely complain, they just re-elect them over and over.  They only vote them out when the corruption finally hits their pocketbooks, like high energy prices or housing costs.

Everyone is too afraid to speak up and tell the truth because everyone is such a wuss that they're too offended to hear it when someone calls a spade a spade.

The young people now are even more spoiled, entitled, lazy, hyper-sensitive, and narcissistic because their parents and teachers treat them like babies and never say no to them and give them whatever they want even long into adulthood.  Justin Trudeau is the prototype for this type of New Canadian, no human has ever been more spoiled from cradle to grave than this man.  Is this the type of person who should be leading our country?

Our decadence has become worse with each generation.  Our parents and grandparents survived the Great Depression and World War 2 and did just fine, in fact they built the most economically successful period of any human society that has ever existed.

The only thing that will change this is another economic collapse or a war.  Decadency has ruined us as a people, we need hardship to make us strong once more.  The Chinese are very strong, they're kicking our butts.  The Chinese are so strong they'll do all sorts of terrible things to us in order to kick our a$$, but don't dare criticize them, that's racist.

Edited August 18, 2023 by Moonlight Graham

[Michael Hardner]

I'm truly sorry that you are disgruntled in this way

 

[Moonlight Graham]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm truly sorry that you are disgruntled in this way

 

Well thank you.  I am truly sorry for this country.  I care so much about our country, and for our kids, and our seniors, and everyone in between.

Our grandparents survived the great depression, they survived fighting in World War 2, and many paid terrible costs.  So who is going to make those sacrifices today for this country?  These people risked their lives, but I'm only waiting for a politician who will risk their jobs to do what's right for this country.  But maybe they're only giving the people what they want, I dunno.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I'm done with this whole country.

Everyone is entitled, and care more about themselves than their country.  The politicians are corrupt out the wazoo and care much more about their own power than the country, and the country is going to sh!t as a result.

The people want their goodies but they don't want to pay for it with taxes.  You can't raise taxes because voters won't like it, you can't take away benefits/programs because voters won't like it.  So you charge it to the debt and let someone else pay for it.  It's a joke.  You make cuts and they demonize you like they did Mike Harris and Doug Ford and Harper.  They say they demonize them because those politicians are corrupt, which the are, but the provincial and federal Liberals are equally if not more corrupt and the same people barely complain, they just re-elect them over and over.  They only vote them out when the corruption finally hits their pocketbooks, like high energy prices or housing costs.

Everyone is too afraid to speak up and tell the truth because everyone is such a wuss that they're too offended to hear it when someone calls a spade a spade.

The young people now are even more spoiled, entitled, lazy, hyper-sensitive, and narcissistic because their parents and teachers treat them like babies and never say no to them and give them whatever they want even long into adulthood.  Justin Trudeau is the prototype for this type of New Canadian, no human has ever been more spoiled from cradle to grave than this man.  Is this the type of person who should be leading our country?

Our decadence has become worse with each generation.  Our parents and grandparents survived the Great Depression and World War 2 and did just fine, in fact they built the most economically successful period of any human society that has ever existed.

The only thing that will change this is another economic collapse or a war.  Decadency has ruined us as a people, we need hardship to make us strong once more.  The Chinese are very strong, they're kicking our butts.  The Chinese are so strong they'll do all sorts of terrible things to us in order to kick our a$$, but don't dare criticize them, that's racist.

I think it's okay to criticize the Chinese.  They are a bunch of tyrannical, criminal, autocratic arseholes.

Not all of them, of course.

[Army Guy]

Don't you guys see "any" truth in what he said... perhaps you can't see the forest from the trees...or maybe this behavior has become normal nothing worth noticing... What positive impact has our nation had on Canadians as a whole? what positive impact have we had on the globe ?...

Edited August 19, 2023 by Army Guy

[Dougie93]

11 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Don't you guys see "any" truth in what he said... perhaps you can't see the forest from the trees...or maybe this behavior has become normal nothing worth noticing... What positive impact has our nation had on Canadians as a whole? what positive impact have we had on the globe ?...

the definition of "Canadian" originates from the War of 1812

before the war, the British here called themselves "Americans"

"American" was a British definition, named after the Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci

after the war, the British here adopted the French title "Canadian"

the definition was British North American, the American Loyalists

now that Canada has erased that history and replaced it with something else, the Post National State

I simply carry on being British North American as I always was

who needs "Canadian", when it's not even a discernible identity anymore ?

if you say you are British, everybody around the world knows what that means

if you say you are "Canadian" ?

nobody knows what that means, they can't distinguish between Canadians & Americans

ultimately, the Americans have won the war in the end by default

Canada is totally Americanized now, absorbed into the American culture with no culture of its own\

so much so, that Canadian politicians don't even run against their counterparts anymore

instead, they run against their American counterparts

it's not Trudeau v. Polievre

it's Trudeau v. Trump and Poilievre v. Clinton

Edited August 19, 2023 by Dougie93

[myata]

13 hours ago, bcsapper said:

I think it's okay to criticize the Chinese

North.

[I am Groot]

I'm waiting for those details instructions on how to murder a nation.

So far all I've got is 'elect Trudeau'. But I already knew that one.

I would say that the plans should include allowing ideologues who despise your country, its history, culture, and traditions to take over academia and then allow them to change and slant curriculums and only hire their own kind so as to indoctrinate young people in their way of thinking.

We definitely did this. Any number of government could have put a stop to that, at least in their own provinces, for the premiers, but none could be bothered. Not even the allegedly conservative ones.

After you've got the indoctrination schooling in make sure your graduates are supported as they move into the media to take it over, and then into key parts of the corporate world - like HR organizations that hire people and make all the rules.

With this done you can begin changing the culture of the country to incorporate your hatred and disgust for it and its history, people and values. Then you can get airhead politicians elected to help pass laws to change the country, to destroy its homegrown culture, values and institutions.

All of which have been accomplished in Canada.

[myata]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

All of which have been accomplished in Canada.

Wouldn't you want to ask another question: why? Like, why it was so easy, in the true, north, strong and free?

Edited August 19, 2023 by myata

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, myata said:

Wouldn't you want to ask another question: why? Like, why it was so easy, in the true, north, strong and free?

Progressives are a minority but they congregate in the media and arts, as well as academia. They can and have and do influence culture, and have done so on a wide scale in the US and the rest of the anglosphere. It's worked so well we have Canadian government types not wanting to celebrate Canada Day but to instead turn it into some kind of day of shame for our 'colonizing' the wonderful world of savages that was here before us. Over 40% in a recent poll liked the idea of changing the anthem to reflect this view, replacing "Our home and native land" to "Our home ON native land" as if we're not here as legitimate natives. 

Anyone who challenges the narrative is attacked as immoral and hateful by media and academics, and the politicians eager for their favour. They've turned the very idea of patriotism or nationalism into a synonym for white supremacy. And while doing that flooded the country with immigrants to the point half the population in cities like Toronto and Vancouver are foreign-born. 

[myata]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Anyone who challenges the narrative is attacked as immoral and hateful by media and academics, and the politicians eager for their favour. They've turned the very idea of patriotism or nationalism into a synonym for white supremacy. And while doing that flooded the country with immigrants to the point half the population in cities like Toronto and Vancouver are foreign-born. 

The ages old idea of turning an ideological program into an instrument of power. Old and boring; and yet the society bought into it without much struggle almost naturally.

[Moonlight Graham]

9 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Progressives are a minority but they congregate in the media and arts, as well as academia. They can and have and do influence culture, and have done so on a wide scale in the US and the rest of the anglosphere. It's worked so well we have Canadian government types not wanting to celebrate Canada Day but to instead turn it into some kind of day of shame for our 'colonizing' the wonderful world of savages that was here before us. Over 40% in a recent poll liked the idea of changing the anthem to reflect this view, replacing "Our home and native land" to "Our home ON native land" as if we're not here as legitimate natives. 

Anyone who challenges the narrative is attacked as immoral and hateful by media and academics, and the politicians eager for their favour. They've turned the very idea of patriotism or nationalism into a synonym for white supremacy. And while doing that flooded the country with immigrants to the point half the population in cities like Toronto and Vancouver are foreign-born. 

The youngsters have mastered social media, and most youngsters are progressive.  They have spread their message of self-hatred out from the university student newspapers and into the palms of all our young people.  It's not based on an accurate reading of history, it's based on a certain narrative of our history that ignores a lot of it.

They're so pampered they have no idea how savage life was hundreds of year ago, or how savage life is still for many people who live outside the West.  They'd all vomit and faint if they had to skin a rabbit or drain the blood from a deer in order to feed their family.  We're so soft.

[Moonlight Graham]

15 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

the definition of "Canadian" originates from the War of 1812

before the war, the British here called themselves "Americans"

"American" was a British definition, named after the Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci

after the war, the British here adopted the French title "Canadian"

the definition was British North American, the American Loyalists

now that Canada has erased that history and replaced it with something else, the Post National State

I simply carry on being British North American as I always was

who needs "Canadian", when it's not even a discernible identity anymore ?

if you say you are British, everybody around the world knows what that means

if you say you are "Canadian" ?

nobody knows what that means, they can't distinguish between Canadians & Americans

ultimately, the Americans have won the war in the end by default

Canada is totally Americanized now, absorbed into the American culture with no culture of its own\

so much so, that Canadian politicians don't even run against their counterparts anymore

instead, they run against their American counterparts

it's not Trudeau v. Polievre

it's Trudeau v. Trump and Poilievre v. Clinton

Did you see our politicians swoon over Biden like giggly children when he visited our HoC?  Oh, some attention from the Americans!  Biden said my name!

It's pathetic, have some pride in yourself.  We don't have to impress them.  Acting like Biden's bottom b*tch, it was embarrassing.

I'm Anglo-Canadian, I'm not British.  Brits were useful but they were removed when their usefulness had some to an end.  Most of the Canadian Brits I meet are pretty smug and pathetic, they think we're still part of their empire.  We Canadianized the Crown.  The King of Canada is a symbol of the state, a living statue.  His role is to sit and wave, like a flag.  Pledging allegiance to our King is no different than pledging to a flag.  It's all a symbol of something greater.

[Dougie93]

7 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Did you see our politicians swoon over Biden like giggly children when he visited our HoC?  Oh, some attention from the Americans!  Biden said my name!

It's pathetic, have some pride in yourself.  We don't have to impress them.  Acting like Biden's bottom b*tch, it was embarrassing.

I'm Anglo-Canadian, I'm not British.  Brits were useful but they were removed when their usefulness had some to an end.  Most of the Canadian Brits I meet are pretty smug and pathetic, they think we're still part of their empire.  We Canadianized the Crown.  The King of Canada is a symbol of the state, a living statue.  His role is to sit and wave, like a flag.  Pledging allegiance to our King is no different than pledging to a flag.  It's all a symbol of something greater.

I find Canada to be ridiculously smug, to the absurd

Canada is the place that looks down its noses at everyone else

I find the Americans and British to be down to earth, sensible

while Canada is literally the silliest place on earth

I am not the one who hates my ethnicity, history,  nor system of governance

I am not the one tearing Canada down; Canada is tearing itself down

I never pledged allegiance to that, and am simply declining to pledge allegiance to it now

I didn't leave Canada, Canada left me, right out from under my feet

you are the one who has posted a thread pronouncing that Canada is a failed state

you are the one who said that you are "done with it"

you just renounced Canada yourself, you made a thread entirely for that purpose

so why would you be quarrelling with me ?

you just went off on a ranting and raving tirade against Canada

then you expect me to pledge allegiance to this basket case which you describe ?

you renounce Canada, fair enough, I am not arguing with you about it

because I am not a Canadian Nationalist, so it doesn't offend me

I am a monarchist, which is inherently anti-nationalist

the something greater which you invoke, is the British Crown

I am not limited to the Confederation of Canada since 1982

my history goes back much further, to the founding of Britannia by the Romans in 43 AD

I found Canada to be a great country under the British North America Act 1867

I view the Canada Act 1982 as the point where Canada began to decline into a shambles

the 1982 constitution has turned out to be a poison pill

which has led us directly to the state of utter dysfunction which you are railing against

when Canada was British North America, it was strong, proud, free & conservative

ever since Canada became Anti-British

it has turned into a far left wing lunatic asylum run by imbeciles bent on its own destruction

I am not tearing Canada down, Canada is tearing itself down

I am simply declining to pledge allegiance to an institution which is committing national suicide

since Canada is apparently bent on destroying itself

the oath of allegiance which I undertook actually binds me not to participate in that

it rather binds me to stop reporting to Canada therein

and instead report straight to the monarch at Buckingham Palace

that is the Canadian constitutional separation of powers

if/when the Canadian government goes completely off the rails

that is when the monarchy is invoked in defence of the subjects therein

the  monarchy is the last line of defence : break glass in case of failed state

Quebec is constantly invoking this authority against Ottawa

I don't see why the rest of the provinces shouldn't join them

Ottawa has gone completely out of control, it has become theatre of the absurd

the Confederation needs to be put in its place

and the monarch is the authority above the Confederation

like Quebec, I am simply following the Constitution Act to the letter

you ain't actually the boss of us, Ottawa, time for you to get your wings clipped

Edited August 20, 2023 by Dougie93

[Moonlight Graham]

On 8/20/2023 at 3:20 AM, Dougie93 said:

I find Canada to be ridiculously smug, to the absurd

Canada is the place that looks down its noses at everyone else

I find the Americans and British to be down to earth, sensible

while Canada is literally the silliest place on earth

I am not the one who hates my ethnicity, history,  nor system of governance

I am not the one tearing Canada down; Canada is tearing itself down

I never pledged allegiance to that, and am simply declining to pledge allegiance to it now

I didn't leave Canada, Canada left me, right out from under my feet

you are the one who has posted a thread pronouncing that Canada is a failed state

you are the one who said that you are "done with it"

you just renounced Canada yourself, you made a thread entirely for that purpose

so why would you be quarrelling with me ?

you just went off on a ranting and raving tirade against Canada

then you expect me to pledge allegiance to this basket case which you describe ?

you renounce Canada, fair enough, I am not arguing with you about it

because I am not a Canadian Nationalist, so it doesn't offend me

I am a monarchist, which is inherently anti-nationalist

the something greater which you invoke, is the British Crown

I am not limited to the Confederation of Canada since 1982

my history goes back much further, to the founding of Britannia by the Romans in 43 AD

I found Canada to be a great country under the British North America Act 1867

I view the Canada Act 1982 as the point where Canada began to decline into a shambles

the 1982 constitution has turned out to be a poison pill

which has led us directly to the state of utter dysfunction which you are railing against

when Canada was British North America, it was strong, proud, free & conservative

ever since Canada became Anti-British

it has turned into a far left wing lunatic asylum run by imbeciles bent on its own destruction

I am not tearing Canada down, Canada is tearing itself down

I am simply declining to pledge allegiance to an institution which is committing national suicide

since Canada is apparently bent on destroying itself

the oath of allegiance which I undertook actually binds me not to participate in that

it rather binds me to stop reporting to Canada therein

and instead report straight to the monarch at Buckingham Palace

that is the Canadian constitutional separation of powers

if/when the Canadian government goes completely off the rails

that is when the monarchy is invoked in defence of the subjects therein

the  monarchy is the last line of defence : break glass in case of failed state

Quebec is constantly invoking this authority against Ottawa

I don't see why the rest of the provinces shouldn't join them

Ottawa has gone completely out of control, it has become theatre of the absurd

the Confederation needs to be put in its place

and the monarch is the authority above the Confederation

like Quebec, I am simply following the Constitution Act to the letter

you ain't actually the boss of us, Ottawa, time for you to get your wings clipped

Nah you left Canada.  The going got tough and you quit instead of standing to defend the country to your last breath.  You ran to the Americans and Brits like a wuss and a turncoat.  You shat on your oath.  Some warrior you turned out to be.  You're just another "Modern Canadian":  a Canada-hating wuss and a free-rider, a Canadian by convenience.  Take your benefits and hate on your country like everyone else.  Good riddance.  Don't forget to vote Liberal.

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Nah you left Canada.  The going got tough and you quit instead of standing to defend the country to your last breath.  You ran to the Americans and Brits like a wuss and a turncoat.  You shat on your oath.  Some warrior you turned out to be.  You're just another "Modern Canadian":  a Canada-hating wuss and a free-rider, a Canadian by convenience.  Take your benefits and hate on your country like everyone else.  Good riddance.  Don't forget to vote Liberal.

the Liberals are the Natural Governing Party

Canada is for all intents & purposes a Liberal project

the Conservatives have failed to make any impact on Canadian society whatsoever

the Liberals rule Canada with impunity

thus to pledge allegiance to Canada is pledging allegiance to the Liberals therein

[impartialobserver]

Yes, folks are entitled, overly sensitive, and lazy these days. This is the natural and inevitable consequences of increased technology, increased economic fortunes, and no true war to fight. Life is easy and comfortable for a lot of folks. 

[BeaverFever]

On 8/18/2023 at 6:18 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

no human has ever been more spoiled from cradle to grave than this man

Trump has bey for sure. Maybe amend this to say “no Canadian politician” 

[Moonlight Graham]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

the Liberals are the Natural Governing Party

Canada is for all intents & purposes a Liberal project

the Conservatives have failed to make any impact on Canadian society whatsoever

the Liberals rule Canada with impunity

thus to pledge allegiance to Canada is pledging allegiance to the Liberals therein

Sir John A wasn't a Liberal.  They're attacking Sir John A by trying to wipe him off the face of the map and all you want to do is grab your benefits card and head to the movie theater for some amazing military discounts.

Dougie, go create a new party called The British Bloc, plead for separation, hate on your country, take all your benefits and then run to the hills when the country is under attack.  Dougie's gone AWOL.  Probably paid off by the Russians.

[Moonlight Graham]

23 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Yes, folks are entitled, overly sensitive, and lazy these days. This is the natural and inevitable consequences of increased technology, increased economic fortunes, and no true war to fight. Life is easy and comfortable for a lot of folks. 

 

[Dougie93]

6 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Sir John A wasn't a Liberal.  They're attacking Sir John A by trying to wipe him off the face of the map and all you want to do is grab your benefits card and head to the movie theater for some amazing military discounts.

Dougie, go create a new party called The British Bloc, plead for separation, hate on your country, take all your benefits and then run to the hills when the country is under attack.  Dougie's gone AWOL.  Probably paid off by the Russians.

they attack Sir John A because he was British

Sir John A is the founder of the British Bloc

although it is actually called the Monarchist League of Canada

[Moonlight Graham]

53 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

they attack Sir John A because he was British

Sir John A is the founder of the British Bloc

although it is actually called the Monarchist League of Canada

Monarchist League was founded in 1970 stupid.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Monarchist League was founded in 1970 stupid.

the Monarchist League is all that is left of what Sir John A believed in

Sir John A did not view the British as the enemy

because he was British to the bone, utterly devoted to HM Queen Victoria as Empress

you are the real traitor in our midst

because you are obviously a fascist

[Moonlight Graham]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

the Monarchist League is all that is left of what Sir John A believed in

Sir John A did not view the British as the enemy

because he was British to the bone, utterly devoted to HM Queen Victoria as Empress

you are the real traitor in our midst

because you are obviously a fascist

Thanks for the notes comrade, say hi to Putin for me.

Hardcore british monarchist being paid off by Putin calling me a fascist is rich.

[Dougie93]

Just now, Moonlight Graham said:

Thanks for the notes comrade, say hi to Putin for me.

Hardcore british monarchist being paid off by Putin calling me a fascist is rich.

you are ranting and raving like a fascist lunatic

your hatred of Canadian society and renouncing of it is right there in black & white above