When are the MAGA's going to wise up and start suing Trump for taking their donations to his alleged run again for the presidency that he instead is using to continue his lavish lifestyle and pay personal legal expenses instead?

[Caswell Thomas]

He's been indicted on many counts, quite a few will start draining his personal coffers soon that he won't be able to raise enough to refill and you can bet the Dark Money sources that fed him before are now backing off and looking for another pitchman, so...if the mothers who gave up their new soccer shirts to donate that money to him instead, the guys who paid $300 for a "golf" trip, or the many who gave up multiple cases of  beer money to fuel his rally parties for him who are now starting to see the Light of Truth in his grand liar speaking, maybe it's time now to file those suits  for reimbursement of financial frauds he perpetrated on them....before others wise up also and drain everything he has left away.

 

 

 

[BeaverFever]

The answer to the question in the thread topic is never. The psychology that motivates his followers is beyond reason  As former congressman-turned political writer noted in a recent article:

 

…For every crackpot influencer, religious fraud or political charlatan, there must be dozens, if not hundreds, of devoted American followers. We cannot be certain what makes them tick, but the work of Canadian psychologist Robert Altemeyer is highly suggestive. He posits a distinctive human trait he calls the right-wing authoritarian personality and describes it this way: 

They are highly submissive to established authority, aggressive in the name of that authority and conventional to the point of insisting everyone should behave as their authorities decide. They are fearful and self-righteous and have a lot of hostility in them that they readily direct toward various out-groups. They are easily incited, easily led, rather un-inclined to think for themselves, largely impervious to facts and reason and rely instead on social support to maintain their beliefs. They bring strong loyalty to their in-groups, have thick-walled, highly compartmentalized minds, use a lot of double standards in their judgments, are surprisingly unprincipled at times and are often hypocrites.

Probably about 20 to 25 percent of the adult American population is so right-wing authoritarian, so scared, so self-righteous, so ill-informed and so dogmatic that nothing you can say or do will change their minds. They would march America into a dictatorship and probably feel that things had improved as a result. ... And they are so submissive to their leaders that they will believe and do virtually anything they are told. They are not going to let up and they are not going away.

…

https://www.salon.com/2023/08/05/why-america-is-going-backward-being-the-richest-nation-in-history-isnt-enough/

 

 

And another goodie on conservatism:

 

…

However much modern theorists have elaborated upon the ideas inherent in conservatism during the two centuries since Maistre, they all seem to me to boil down to three simple points:

1. A desire for hierarchy and human inequality. This belief derives from the medieval religious notion of the Great Chain of Being, whereby there is a place for everybody and everybody must know his place. It justifies economic exploitation and denial of political rights. Conservative writers propagandize on its behalf with a straw-man argument: Any gain in equality costs society an equal or greater loss in freedom; egalitarianism is the mere soulless equality of the gulag, where we cannot own property and must share toothbrushes. This sentiment pops up consistently in the works of American conservative theorists, from Buckley's "Unless you have freedom to be unequal, there is no such thing as freedom," to David Brooks' hankering for rule by a wise elite. American-style laissez-faire economics and libertarianism are largely based on this idea.
2. The only acceptable society is based on Christianity. Never mind the establishment clause of the First Amendment; conservatives will forever try to smuggle in more and more official endorsement of religion until the United States is effectively a theocracy. The rationale is that some sort of divine or transcendental dispensation is the sole basis for a just temporal order. Translated into the bumper-sticker mentality of American Christian fundamentalism, that means that if people don't believe in God, there's nothing to stop them from running amok and killing people. This thesis would have been news to medieval crusaders, the Holy Inquisition, Francisco Franco's Falangists or the Russian Archbishop Kyrill, who has blessed Putin's invasion of Ukraine and the resulting carnage.
3. We must obey tradition. For some unexplained reason, our ancestors were infinitely wiser than us, and apparently they get a vote on present affairs. To paraphrase Edmund Burke, if we're going to have democracy, let's extend it to the dead. Scratch someone who fancies himself an educated conservative and you will often find a person who reveres the past; unfortunately they leave out details like slavery, witch burning and childbed fever. Many psychologists consider this mentality to be a cognitive bias in brain function, but whatever its source, the political utility of the attitude is obvious: Utopia only exists in an ever-receding past, progress is impossible, and future generations shall profess bygone superstitions. And tradition, in this case, means the folkways of a specific, favored culture, thus denying the universality of the human spirit. The idea is well expressed by Buckley's statement that conservatives must "stand athwart history yelling 'stop.'"

Joseph de Maistre was "a fierce absolutist, a furious theocrat, an intransigent legitimist ... always and everywhere the champion of the hardest, narrowest and most inflexible dogmatism." All the essential points of the present conservative mind.

One can grasp that the three precepts dovetail together in that they all rely on dogmatic assertion, denial of a scientific or empirical basis of reality and reactionary nostalgia. They are also pretty thin gruel for founding an intellectual tradition: there are simply too many departments of knowledge, for instance, much of science, that must be declared off limits to prevent them from tainting the party line. This is why conservatives habitually retreat into mysticism, gut feelings and the wisdom of our fathers when the facts are against them. It is more accurate to say that conservatism is a counter-intellectual activity that sometimes employs the trappings of intellectual discourse...

 

https://www.salon.com/2023/07/01/theres-no-such-thing-as-a-conservative-intellectual--only-apologists-for-right-wing-power/

[Legato]

He will probably hire a landscaper to dig up a bunch of shells from a local beach. Then set up a least 20 shell companies to follow the Biden family initiatives and receive money's from China, Ukraine, Romania etc . That should help a little.

[Legato]

41 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The answer to the question in the thread topic is never. The psychology that motivates his followers is beyond reason  As former congressman-turned political writer noted in a recent article:

 

…For every crackpot influencer, religious fraud or political charlatan, there must be dozens, if not hundreds, of devoted American followers. We cannot be certain what makes them tick, but the work of Canadian psychologist Robert Altemeyer is highly suggestive. He posits a distinctive human trait he calls the right-wing authoritarian personality and describes it this way: 

They are highly submissive to established authority, aggressive in the name of that authority and conventional to the point of insisting everyone should behave as their authorities decide. They are fearful and self-righteous and have a lot of hostility in them that they readily direct toward various out-groups. They are easily incited, easily led, rather un-inclined to think for themselves, largely impervious to facts and reason and rely instead on social support to maintain their beliefs. They bring strong loyalty to their in-groups, have thick-walled, highly compartmentalized minds, use a lot of double standards in their judgments, are surprisingly unprincipled at times and are often hypocrites.

Probably about 20 to 25 percent of the adult American population is so right-wing authoritarian, so scared, so self-righteous, so ill-informed and so dogmatic that nothing you can say or do will change their minds. They would march America into a dictatorship and probably feel that things had improved as a result. ... And they are so submissive to their leaders that they will believe and do virtually anything they are told. They are not going to let up and they are not going away.

…

https://www.salon.com/2023/08/05/why-america-is-going-backward-being-the-richest-nation-in-history-isnt-enough/

 

 

And another goodie on conservatism:

 

…

However much modern theorists have elaborated upon the ideas inherent in conservatism during the two centuries since Maistre, they all seem to me to boil down to three simple points:

1. A desire for hierarchy and human inequality. This belief derives from the medieval religious notion of the Great Chain of Being, whereby there is a place for everybody and everybody must know his place. It justifies economic exploitation and denial of political rights. Conservative writers propagandize on its behalf with a straw-man argument: Any gain in equality costs society an equal or greater loss in freedom; egalitarianism is the mere soulless equality of the gulag, where we cannot own property and must share toothbrushes. This sentiment pops up consistently in the works of American conservative theorists, from Buckley's "Unless you have freedom to be unequal, there is no such thing as freedom," to David Brooks' hankering for rule by a wise elite. American-style laissez-faire economics and libertarianism are largely based on this idea.
2. The only acceptable society is based on Christianity. Never mind the establishment clause of the First Amendment; conservatives will forever try to smuggle in more and more official endorsement of religion until the United States is effectively a theocracy. The rationale is that some sort of divine or transcendental dispensation is the sole basis for a just temporal order. Translated into the bumper-sticker mentality of American Christian fundamentalism, that means that if people don't believe in God, there's nothing to stop them from running amok and killing people. This thesis would have been news to medieval crusaders, the Holy Inquisition, Francisco Franco's Falangists or the Russian Archbishop Kyrill, who has blessed Putin's invasion of Ukraine and the resulting carnage.
3. We must obey tradition. For some unexplained reason, our ancestors were infinitely wiser than us, and apparently they get a vote on present affairs. To paraphrase Edmund Burke, if we're going to have democracy, let's extend it to the dead. Scratch someone who fancies himself an educated conservative and you will often find a person who reveres the past; unfortunately they leave out details like slavery, witch burning and childbed fever. Many psychologists consider this mentality to be a cognitive bias in brain function, but whatever its source, the political utility of the attitude is obvious: Utopia only exists in an ever-receding past, progress is impossible, and future generations shall profess bygone superstitions. And tradition, in this case, means the folkways of a specific, favored culture, thus denying the universality of the human spirit. The idea is well expressed by Buckley's statement that conservatives must "stand athwart history yelling 'stop.'"

Joseph de Maistre was "a fierce absolutist, a furious theocrat, an intransigent legitimist ... always and everywhere the champion of the hardest, narrowest and most inflexible dogmatism." All the essential points of the present conservative mind.

One can grasp that the three precepts dovetail together in that they all rely on dogmatic assertion, denial of a scientific or empirical basis of reality and reactionary nostalgia. They are also pretty thin gruel for founding an intellectual tradition: there are simply too many departments of knowledge, for instance, much of science, that must be declared off limits to prevent them from tainting the party line. This is why conservatives habitually retreat into mysticism, gut feelings and the wisdom of our fathers when the facts are against them. It is more accurate to say that conservatism is a counter-intellectual activity that sometimes employs the trappings of intellectual discourse...

 

https://www.salon.com/2023/07/01/theres-no-such-thing-as-a-conservative-intellectual--only-apologists-for-right-wing-power/

Salon.com is a liberal blog known in recent years for sensational clickbait headlines, questionable content, and low journalistic standards.¹ Salon has adopted an increasingly strident brand of leftism that feigns outrage to advance the site’s liberal agenda on countless political issues.²

 

https://www.influencewatch.org/for-profit/salon/

Edited August 16, 2023 by Legato
Bad link

[BeaverFever]

11 minutes ago, Legato said:

Salon.com is a liberal blog known in recent years for sensational clickbait headlines, questionable content, and low journalistic standards.¹ Salon has adopted an increasingly strident brand of leftism that feigns outrage to advance the site’s liberal agenda on countless political issues.²

https://repolitics.com/forums/topic/45987-when-are-the-magas-going-to-wise-up-and-start-suing-trump-for-taking-their-donations-to-his-alleged-run-again-for-the-presidency-that-he-instead-is-using-to-continue-his-lavish-lifestyle-and-pay-personal-legal-expenses-instead/

 

1) bad link in your post

2) I never said Salon wasn’t a left of centre outlet. However the articles were written by a highly educated former REPUBLICAN US Congressional Aide for nearly 3 decades and he offers a well argued opinion on conservatism. He also has plenty of bad things to say about Democrats and the corruptness of US politics in general, BTW he’s not a partisan shill. 
 

You can read his bio here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Lofgren

 

[Caswell Thomas]

Though I tend to agree with beaver fever above, and thanks for the more in depth research than I did ( I beg to apologize for not doing as much of it as I usually do, I was without my laptop for several hours today and the fire tablet is a poor substitute). Anyway my point us should there be a single rightie tightee who thinks beyond the box and realizes he will be paying his 2nd and 3rd mortgage off that he used to get to some rally for a convicted criminal for the next 50 years, he might think to sue Trump while the money's there and, following the rest of the orange hair lemmings, the hole in Trumps Wall of Indifference will become the hole in the levee that breaks it. 

[NYLefty]

I'm from Trump's neighborhood, and if said it once I've said it a thousand times. Trump is a life long con man and fraud. Why do you think he was so thoroughly trounced in NYC in 2016 and 20, . It's because we Fuggin know HIM!!!!!!

[Nationalist]

Salon.com...

Yup...Gran'ma' swore by it.

So do the Libbies.

Take that how you may...

[Deluge]

15 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

He's been indicted on many counts, quite a few will start draining his personal coffers soon that he won't be able to raise enough to refill and you can bet the Dark Money sources that fed him before are now backing off and looking for another pitchman, so...if the mothers who gave up their new soccer shirts to donate that money to him instead, the guys who paid $300 for a "golf" trip, or the many who gave up multiple cases of  beer money to fuel his rally parties for him who are now starting to see the Light of Truth in his grand liar speaking, maybe it's time now to file those suits  for reimbursement of financial frauds he perpetrated on them....before others wise up also and drain everything he has left away.

Why would we go after Trump when there are so much bigger fish to fry? We have an entire swamp to drain, for God's sake. 

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Though I tend to agree with beaver fever above, and thanks for the more in depth research than I did ( I beg to apologize for not doing as much of it as I usually do, I was without my laptop for several hours today and the fire tablet is a poor substitute). Anyway my point us should there be a single rightie tightee who thinks beyond the box and realizes he will be paying his 2nd and 3rd mortgage off that he used to get to some rally for a convicted criminal for the next 50 years, he might think to sue Trump while the money's there and, following the rest of the orange hair lemmings, the hole in Trumps Wall of Indifference will become the hole in the levee that breaks it. 

Hey dummy, why don't you go to your SCJ thread and answer to that before you start a new one?

You have a lot of ill-formed opinions to answer to over there.  

[WestCanMan]

15 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

The answer to the question in the thread topic is never. The psychology that motivates his followers is beyond reason  As former congressman-turned political writer noted in a recent article:

 

…For every crackpot influencer, religious fraud or political charlatan, there must be dozens, if not hundreds, of devoted American followers. We cannot be certain what makes them tick, but the work of Canadian psychologist Robert Altemeyer is highly suggestive. He posits a distinctive human trait he calls the right-wing authoritarian personality and describes it this way: 

They are highly submissive to established authority, aggressive in the name of that authority and conventional to the point of insisting everyone should behave as their authorities decide.

Physician, heal thyself.

You do know that you're basically the poster boy for sheeple, right?

You still believe in Wushin cowushin, vax-Naziism, and everything else that CNN told you to believe. 

You're an 80%er all the way. "No one was forced to vax!"

Go to hell, Beave. 

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Physician, heal thyself.

You do know that you're basically the poster boy for sheeple, right?

You still believe in Wushin cowushin, vax-Naziism, and everything else that CNN told you to believe. 

You're an 80%er all the way. "No one was forced to vax!"

Go to hell, Beave. 

Says the high school dropout Kovid Konspiracy Kook and Putin-admirer who believes holding fringe beliefs and any ridiculous far-fetched conspiracy his cult leaders tell him to while rejecting commonly accepted knowledge makes him look “smurt”

Tell me again about how the 2020 election was as stolen and that the Ukraine invasion was justified because Zelensky the Jewish Nazi had secretly invented brand new bioweapons.  You fit Altemeyer‘s description perfectly. 

 

At least Homer had his GED

Edited August 16, 2023 by BeaverFever

[WestCanMan]

12 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Says the high school dropout Kovid Konspiracy Kook and Putin-admirer who believes holding fringe beliefs and any ridiculous far-fetched conspiracy his cult leaders tell him to while rejecting commonly accepted knowledge makes him look “smurt”

You never even said anything there, just made some vague, unsubstantiated/false generalizations and even lied, as usual.

Your pants are still down around your ankles from your Russian collusion stupidity, you're a vaxtard/vax-Nazi, and all that you've ever done is here display your blind, unwavering faith to CNN narratives which ALWAYS turn out to be false. When will you ever learn?

Can you even admit to one CNN narrative that turned out to be false or are you a completely braindead cultist?

Was M Brown really a "Gentle Giant" you stupid piece of shit?

Were the riots really "mostly peaceful"?

Was Rayshard really a victim, or was he the poster child for police shooting stupidity? 

Was N Sandman really a racist that got all up in a native's face? 

Does the covid jab really prevent covid, and is it safe? 

Do kids really need the covid jab? 

Was there ever really a "pandemic of the unvaccinated"? 

Did Putin really have no reason to invade Ukraine, and if so, then was Kennedy an a-hole for "quarantining" Cuba and depth-charging Russian subs in international waters? 

Quote

Tell me again about how the 2020 election was as stolen

I never said it was stolen you liar, I just said that the dems cheated. And do you know how I know they cheated? Because they got caught cheating so many times on the 2016 election, and then they spent the next 4 years doing their best to enact voter-fraud-friendly laws all across the country, such as no-ID voting, voting for illegals, mass-mailed ballots with no signature-matching requirement, etc. 

If someone just got caught cheating at cards 3 times would you just assume that they were done? Maybe you would, because you still watch CNN, but I sure as hell wouldn't because I'm not as dumb as you are. 

Isn't it weird that after 4 years of being the world's biggest election deniers, CNN suddenly declared the 2020 election fraud-free at 10PM on election night? And yes, I'm talking about the same CNN that gave Hillary Clinton debate questions in advance. The same CNN that gets to tag along on the FBI's political show trial raids. The same CNN that kept pretending that Russian collusion was real for a year and a half after Van Jones admitted to a hidden camera that it was all a big nothingburger.  

Do you remember how the FBI told social media giants that some "RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION!!!!" was gonna come up about a Hunter laptop, and then "50 former intel officials" all signed a letter avowing that the laptop was Russian disinformation? The NYPost was banned for Twitter a month before the 2020 election for telling the truth, and the FBI knew it was the truth because they had the laptop for 11 moths before they told their lies about it. That was 1 month before the election.

The FBI also unravelled their own fake kidnapping plot 1 month before the election. How do you like the timing of that boys and girls? No one knew that it was an entrapment scheme until long after the election. 

Sure, you can say that the Dems never got caught stuffing ballot boxes (as if the FBI would ever tell anyone if they did), but the FBI did commit crimes for the Dems from 2017-2019 and then did everything that they could to influence the 2020 election. 

Quote

the Ukraine invasion was justified because Zelensky the Jewish Nazi had secretly invented brand new bioweapons.  You fit Altemeyer‘s description perfectly. 

When you have to throw down straw man accusations to try to make a point you know that you've lost.

1) The Ukraine invasion was just as justified as Kennedy's military intervention in Cuba: Kennedy didn't want nukes 1,500kms away, Putin didn't want NATO camped out just down the hwy from Moscow. 

Do you understand that stupid? Can you read those words? Can you point out something incorrect there? 

2) The Ukrainian army is the only one in the world with its own Nazi brigade. The Azov brigade proudly wear Nazi insignias, Nazi tattoos, and they call themselves Nazis. I'm just the messenger, stupid. Jon Stewart gave a tattooed Nazi the "Heart of the Team" award on behalf of the Pentagon ffs. You just choose to ignore it all because CNN said "Ignore that, f-face" and you're unable to think for yourself.

3) I never said that Ukraine secretly invented brand new bioweapons either stupid. Do you know why I never said that? Because the US gov't never admitted to it, and all I did was quote them. The US gov't said that they have joint bioweapons research labs in Ukraine where they "research cures for bioweapons". Are you still unaware of the biolabs that I'm referencing, stupid?  Do you think that it's innocuous to be researching "cures for bioweapons" right on Russia's doorstep?

Here's are some questions for you stupid. If you don't know the answers then ask someone with an IQ over 30 to help you out:

What can you do with bioweapons if you don't have a cure for them?

What can you do with those same bioweapons if you do have a cure for them? Is there a difference?  

Why did the US need so many bioweapons research labs in Ukraine? 

Is it possible that the Russians had good reason to object to the joint US/Ukraine bioweapons research labs or should they just assume, like you do, that they were all on the up and up?

Quote

 

Your memes are cute but they don't work here. In order to do that they'd somehow have to convey the impression that your snotty, unsubstantiated insults have some merit, and make your lies, credulity and stupidity a bit less obvious. 

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

You never even said anything there, just made some vague, unsubstantiated/false generalizations and even lied, as usual.

Your pants are still down around your ankles from your Russian collusion stupidity, you're a vaxtard/vax-Nazi, and all that you've ever done is here display your blind, unwavering faith to CNN narratives which ALWAYS turn out to be false. When will you ever learn?

Can you even admit to one CNN narrative that turned out to be false or are you a completely braindead cultist?

Was M Brown really a "Gentle Giant" you stupid piece of shit?

Were the riots really "mostly peaceful"?

Was Rayshard really a victim, or was he the poster child for police shooting stupidity? 

Was N Sandman really a racist that got all up in a native's face? 

Does the covid jab really prevent covid, and is it safe? 

Do kids really need the covid jab? 

Was there ever really a "pandemic of the unvaccinated"? 

Did Putin really have no reason to invade Ukraine, and if so, then was Kennedy an a-hole for "quarantining" Cuba and depth-charging Russian subs in international waters? 

I never said it was stolen you liar, I just said that the dems cheated. And do you know how I know they cheated? Because they got caught cheating so many times on the 2016 election, and then they spent the next 4 years doing their best to enact voter-fraud-friendly laws all across the country, such as no-ID voting, voting for illegals, mass-mailed ballots with no signature-matching requirement, etc. 

If someone just got caught cheating at cards 3 times would you just assume that they were done? Maybe you would, because you still watch CNN, but I sure as hell wouldn't because I'm not as dumb as you are. 

Isn't it weird that after 4 years of being the world's biggest election deniers, CNN suddenly declared the 2020 election fraud-free at 10PM on election night? And yes, I'm talking about the same CNN that gave Hillary Clinton debate questions in advance. The same CNN that gets to tag along on the FBI's political show trial raids. The same CNN that kept pretending that Russian collusion was real for a year and a half after Van Jones admitted to a hidden camera that it was all a big nothingburger.  

Do you remember how the FBI told social media giants that some "RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION!!!!" was gonna come up about a Hunter laptop, and then "50 former intel officials" all signed a letter avowing that the laptop was Russian disinformation? The NYPost was banned for Twitter a month before the 2020 election for telling the truth, and the FBI knew it was the truth because they had the laptop for 11 moths before they told their lies about it. That was 1 month before the election.

The FBI also unravelled their own fake kidnapping plot 1 month before the election. How do you like the timing of that boys and girls? No one knew that it was an entrapment scheme until long after the election. 

Sure, you can say that the Dems never got caught stuffing ballot boxes (as if the FBI would ever tell anyone if they did), but the FBI did commit crimes for the Dems from 2017-2019 and then did everything that they could to influence the 2020 election. 

When you have to throw down straw man accusations to try to make a point you know that you've lost.

1) The Ukraine invasion was just as justified as Kennedy's military intervention in Cuba: Kennedy didn't want nukes 1,500kms away, Putin didn't want NATO camped out just down the hwy from Moscow. 

Do you understand that stupid? Can you read those words? Can you point out something incorrect there? 

2) The Ukrainian army is the only one in the world with its own Nazi brigade. The Azov brigade proudly wear Nazi insignias, Nazi tattoos, and they call themselves Nazis. I'm just the messenger, stupid. Jon Stewart gave a tattooed Nazi the "Heart of the Team" award on behalf of the Pentagon ffs. You just choose to ignore it all because CNN said "Ignore that, f-face" and you're unable to think for yourself.

3) I never said that Ukraine secretly invented brand new bioweapons either stupid. Do you know why I never said that? Because the US gov't never admitted to it, and all I did was quote them. The US gov't said that they have joint bioweapons research labs in Ukraine where they "research cures for bioweapons". Are you still unaware of the biolabs that I'm referencing, stupid?  Do you think that it's innocuous to be researching "cures for bioweapons" right on Russia's doorstep?

Here's are some questions for you stupid. If you don't know the answers then ask someone with an IQ over 30 to help you out:

What can you do with bioweapons if you don't have a cure for them?

What can you do with those same bioweapons if you do have a cure for them? Is there a difference?  

Why did the US need so many bioweapons research labs in Ukraine? 

Is it possible that the Russians had good reason to object to the joint US/Ukraine bioweapons research labs or should they just assume, like you do, that they were all on the up and up?

Your memes are cute but they don't work here. In order to do that they'd somehow have to convey the impression that your snotty, unsubstantiated insults have some merit, and make your lies, credulity and stupidity a bit less obvious. 

Oh, boy. Someone bumped the lunatic jukebox and now its stuck blaring out it's greatest top 40 fictional hits again. What a deeply defective conspiracy bot this one is.

Edited August 16, 2023 by Hodad

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Oh, boy. Someone bumped the lunatic jukebox and now its stuck blaring out it's greatest top 40 fictional hits again. What a deeply defective conspiracy bot this one is.

Oh boy. Someone tapped into their generic sandbox insult bin and blared out their best snot-bubbling drivel again. What a thoroughly braindead cultist that one is. 

We both know that if you had a fact at your disposal or if there was something that you could disprove you'd be all over it, but you had bupkis, so instead you just went straight to the ol' leftard smear campaign. 

Could you just say for the record that you really feel like CNN is a real news outlet, and that M Brown was a "gentle giant"? Or verify that any of the other CNN narratives I noted up top were actually legit? 

C'mon mouthpiece, I can tell that you really wanna chime in here so just tell me how awesome CNN is... They're your source, boi. Whether or not you know it, all of the drivel that comes out of your idi0tic mouth came out of their ass first. 

[Hodad]

On 8/16/2023 at 3:34 PM, WestCanMan said:

Oh boy. Someone tapped into their generic sandbox insult bin and blared out their best snot-bubbling drivel again. What a thoroughly braindead cultist that one is. 

We both know that if you had a fact at your disposal or if there was something that you could disprove you'd be all over it, but you had bupkis, so instead you just went straight to the ol' leftard smear campaign. 

Could you just say for the record that you really feel like CNN is a real news outlet, and that M Brown was a "gentle giant"? Or verify that any of the other CNN narratives I noted up top were actually legit? 

C'mon mouthpiece, I can tell that you really wanna chime in here so just tell me how awesome CNN is... They're your source, boi. Whether or not you know it, all of the drivel that comes out of your idi0tic mouth came out of their ass first. 

Nothing wrong with having people on ignore, but it takes a special kind of coward to shout about having someone on ignore, and then continue vto talk about and reply to that person. Congrats on the dubious achievement of finally being special.

That was not a generic insult, BTW. I don't know ahy other poster who, regardless of debate topic, compulsively vomits forth the same litany of recycled accusations as if they are some religious mantra. It's exactly like the batshit crazy guy on the street corner preaching rehearsed and rehashed nonsense to any poor soul who happens to pass by.

And yes,  though CNN is not something I seek out, it's fairly decent news. I don't watch any televised news, but their online stories and excerpted broadcast segments are usually reasonable.

They did not, for example, report that Michael Brown was a gentle giant. Nobody at CNN knew Michael Brown. Instead, they did what news organizations do: they interviewed friends and family and reported what the interviewees said. 

And guess what, when the police released the footage of the Brown robbery CNN ran it the same day, specifically citing the dueling narratives. 

^^ This is not news to you. We've actually had this conversation multiple times. 

You falsely claimed that FOX ran the robbery video on the day Brown was killed - 6 days before police released that footage. I showed you time-stamped stories showing that both FOX and CNN ran the footage on the same day it was released (6 days after the killing) and still you couldn't manage to admit the error and absorb that fact into your perspective.

Do you have a magic TV that can show you the future? No, of course not. But you're too farking crazy to adjust your facts, so you repeat the same debunked mantra ad nauseum. Seek professional help ASAP.

 

Edited August 18, 2023 by Hodad

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Nothing wrong with having people on ignore, but it takes a special kind of coward to shout about having someone on ignore, and then continue vto talk about and reply to that person. Congrats on the dubious achievement of finally being special.

That was not a generic insult, BTW. I don't know ahy other poster who, regardless of debate topic, compulsively vomits forth the same litany of recycled accusations as if they are some religious mantra. It's exactly like the batshit crazy guy on the street corner preaching rehearsed and rehashed nonsense to any poor soul who happens to pass by.

And yes,  though CNN is not something I seek out, it's fairly decent news. I don't watch any televised news, but their online stories and excerpted broadcast segments are usually reasonable.

Blah, blah, blah.

I was quite specific about a lot of things which you could have taken umbrage to, you found nothing that you could challenge, so you went sandbox on me like a typical leftard.

Hit the skids, weasel.

You don't find CNN 'decent', it's your version of gospel truth. 

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They did not, for example, report that Michael Brown was a gentle giant. Nobody at CNN knew Michael Brown. Instead, they did what news organizations do: they interviewed friends and family and reported what the interviewees said. 

BS. He was the original Gentle Giant of CNN. They only interviewed people who thought that cops were all racist, black men were always innocent, and who had nice things to say about Brown.

And don't forget, CNN chooses all of their own interviewees, then they get to choose which ones to show and which ones to delete. 

Inflammatory is awesome, narrative killers never see the light of day.

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And guess what, when the police released the footage of the Brown robbery CNN ran it the same day, specifically citing the dueling narratives. 

^^ This is not news to you. We've actually had this conversation multiple times. 

You falsely claimed that FOX ran the robbery video on the day Brown was killed - 3 days before police released that foo6tage. I showed you time-stamped stories showing that both FOX and CNN ran the footage on the same day it was released (3 days after the killing) and still you couldn't manage to admit the error and absorb that fact into your perspective.

I saw the video of Brown on the exact same day. Maybe that specific video didn't come from the police, but I saw it on day 1.

Months later CNN was still playing up the hatred and division. Anyone who had anything good to say about Brown or bad to say about cops got airtime there. It was as one-sided as everything else there.

I thought that they were just doing it for the ratings back then, I had no idea that they were basically the propaganda wing of the Dem party. 

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Do you have a magic TV that can show you the future? No, of course not. But you're too farking crazy to adjust your facts, so you repeat the same debunked mantra ad nauseum. Seek professional help ASAP.

I don't have a magic TV that can show the future, but I know enough about the past to know that what you see on CNN tomorrow will be as dishonest as they can possibly make it, and you'll believe everything you see there. 

[Hodad]

12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

 

I saw the video of Brown on the exact same day. Maybe that specific video didn't come from the police, but I saw it on day 1.

 

 

No, you didn't. Full stop.

You are a liar. There was no "other video" of the convenience store robbery. The surveillance footage was released, by the police, and carried on CNN, FOX and other major networks the very same day it was released - 6 days after the killing on August 15.

You can't produce another video. You can't show that it was released at an earlier date, because indeed it was not. But you will cling to your phony story like as an article of faith in and will repeat it ad nauseum.

Your total inability to take in and process new information when it undermines your dogma is disordered behavior. You complain that people don't want to engage with the nonsense in your Gish gallops, but why would they? Seriously, when you can't even acknowledge the basic facts of a shared reality, why would anyone debate opinion? Seek professional help.

Edited August 17, 2023 by Hodad

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

No, you didn't. Full stop.

You are a liar. There was no "other video" of the convenience store robbery. The surveillance footage was released, by the police, and carried on CNN, FOX and other major networks the very same day it was released - 6 days after the killing on August 15.

You can't produce another video. You can't show that it was released at an earlier date, because indeed it was not. But you will cling to your phony story like as an article of faith in and will repeat it as nauseum.

Your total inability to take in and process new information when it undermines your dogma is disordered behavior. You complain that people don't want to engage with the nonsense in your Gish gallops, but why would they? Seriously, when you can't even acknowledge the basic facts of a shared reality, why would anyone debate opinion? Seek professional help.

It's called cognitive dissonance. And that is typical of right wingers here. Trump also exhibits those symptoms, but it's hard to determine if he really believes his bullshit or it's just his pathological liar manipulative schtick.