Witness Tampering!! Trump Faces IMMEDIATE Imprisonment

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

He told his mob that he loved them.  That’s comforting.

Tell me you're joking. Please god tell me that was a joke...

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

He organized the event. He funded it.

But not the riot.

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

As commander in chief, he refused all calls during the insurrection and did not issue any orders with law enforcement,

Which makes him indifferent, a bad leader, petty and spiteful, indecisive, or a poor judge of how serious a situation is, or combinations thereof.  But not a participant.

 

I mean it's not even close. The law requires very direct and clear involvement.  If they had a tape of him in a planning session saying "ok, so then you guys rush the gate and try to find pence, and i'll be at the office denying them back up..." then you've got some real involvement.   But organizing a rally where a small handful of the people would later storm the capital is NOT participating in an insurrection and you weaken the overall case against trump with that kind of silliness.

[reason10]

On 8/15/2023 at 11:44 AM, Rebound said:

Here we have a post made today by four-time indicted Donald Trump. He first states that he believes that Jeff Duncan will testify in Trump’s Georgia trial, and THEN Trump goes on to intimidate him. 
 

“He Shouldn’t [testify],” Trump writes. THAT, is intimidation. Trump has already been warned not to do this, it’s a condition of his existing release in Washington and Florida, not to mention Georgia.  
 

Sam Bankman just had his bail revoked and he got thrown in jail by a Federal judge in New York for the same crime.  
 

More lies from Nazis.
Seig Heil, you creep.

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, reason10 said:

More lies from Nazis.
Seig Heil, you creep.

Now you’re admitting that Donald Trump is a Nazi, like his dad. 

[CrakHoBarbie]

2 hours ago, reason10 said:

More lies from Nazis.
Seig Heil, you creep.

If, as Donald's indictment claims, Donald and his co-conspirators hatched and implemented a plan to install fraudulent electors is true, do you agree that Donald should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law?

[CrakHoBarbie]

On 8/18/2023 at 11:05 PM, robosmith said:

Word is, his lawyers are telling him to STFU, and that's why he canceled his news conference to present his supposed proof of election fraud analysis in GA.

Maybe the first time he's listened to his non-shopped lawyers. ?

 

If Donald had any evidence of voter fraud viable enough to be substantiated in a court of law, he'd of already used it long ago.

The new indictment, where they say they have proof that Donald and his co-conspirators hatched and implemented a plan to install fraudulent electors, is gunna leave Donald in a very precarious position.

Who knows... Donald's shown a great aptitude for weaseling out of bad spots before.

He may just get lucky once again.

Edited August 20, 2023 by CrakHoBarbie

[robosmith]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Incited is not the same as lead or participated in.  Sorry.

In REALITY, it is a KEY PARTICIPATION. 

Are you going to claim that a mob boss is not a participant in a murder he directed his goons carry out? LMAO

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Further - while i would tend to agree with the use of the word for casual purposes it may not meet that bar legally.  An insurrection tends to attempt to overthrow a lawful gov't - not just a single individual. 

Joe is the TITULAR head of the government. "Not JUST a single individual" Duh.

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Had they succeeded the gov't of the united states would still have been there. Further - they would claim they were DEFENDING the "lawful" president of the united states.

They can claim BULLSHIT which means NOTHING without EVIDENCE of FRAUD IN COURT.

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So - you've got a thin string tied to a thinner string tied to an even thinner string.. no way that's going to hold up under load.  IT's as much of a crack pot theory as the whole 'electric voting box stole my election' theory.

Far from it. As Smith will PROVE in COURT.

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That is very blatantly and obviously nonsense. If you think there's even a sliver's chance you charge for everything and then drop what you need to before the trial.  IF he didn't charge, it's because he thought there was zero chance of conviction. Or such a slim one as makes no difference.

He can still file the rest of the charges LATER.

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

In my mind it meets the definition of 'insurrection' loosely, But the legal bar is higher.

? 

Only additional element is INTENTION. Which Smith has covered. Right now he NEEDS a slam dunk conviction. Duh

[robosmith]

18 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

If Donald had any evidence of voter fraud viable enough to be substantiated in a court of law, he'd of already used it long ago.

The new indictment, where they say they have proof that Donald and his co-conspirators hatched and implemented a plan to install fraudulent electors, is gunna leave Donald in a very precarious position.

Who knows... Donald's shown a great aptitude for weaseling out of bad spots before.

He may just get lucky once again.

He ONLY has "evidence" strong enough to convince the MAGA RUBES. AKA, trial in the court of public OPINION.

[CrakHoBarbie]

59 minutes ago, robosmith said:

He ONLY has "evidence" strong enough to convince the MAGA RUBES. AKA, trial in the court of public OPINION.

Donald's moronic minions will hem and haw till Donald's comb over disintegrates.

But, they cannot walk back the issue of Donald and his co-conspirators hatching and implementing the plot to install fraudulent electors.

They can ignore that he's a known sexual predator.

They can dismiss that he knowingly set the wheels of his failed coup d'etat in motion.

But they cannot ignore a grand jury indictment, nor what's going to come of it.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

In REALITY, it is a KEY PARTICIPATION. 

Not even a little bit.

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Are you going to claim that a mob boss is not a participant in a murder he directed his goons carry out?

You would have to have proof that the mob boss specifically ordered his goons to take that very specific action - i don't think any mob boss in history has ever been convicted of that    Certainly nobody has ever provided evidence that trump instructed those people to storm the capital.

 

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Joe is the TITULAR head of the government. "Not JUST a single individual" Duh.

Well no, he wasn't.  Also look up what the word 'titular' means,  you clearly don't understand it.  But all joe was was the president elect.

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They can claim BULLSHIT which means NOTHING without EVIDENCE of FRAUD IN COURT.

LOL  - says the guy who wants to convict trump of insurrecton without evidence or  a trial LOL

 

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Far from it. As Smith will PROVE in COURT.

Ummm - no, no he won't.  Trump isn't on trial for insurrection.

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He can still file the rest of the charges LATER.

IF they were real he'd have filed them now.

 

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Only additional element is INTENTION. Which Smith has covered. Right now he NEEDS a slam dunk conviction. Duh

Not really.  And you're drooling again.

[Aristides]

30 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Donald's moronic minions will hem and haw till Donald's comb over disintegrates.

But, they cannot walk back the issue of Donald and his co-conspirators hatching and implementing the plot to install fraudulent electors.

They can ignore that he's a known sexual predator.

They can dismiss that he knowingly set the wheels of his failed coup d'etat in motion.

But they cannot ignore a grand jury indictment, nor what's going to come of it.

 

Wanna bet. They can do all that stuff. Because they are.

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Donald's moronic minions will hem and haw till Donald's comb over disintegrates.

But, they cannot walk back the issue of Donald and his co-conspirators hatching and implementing the plot to install fraudulent electors.

 

Given that the left has accused Donald of every crime under the sun related to his time in office and yet he has zero convictions  one might understand why they're skeptical.

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They can ignore that he's a known sexual predator.

So was clinton and the dems supported him.  Seems like americans just don't care about that.

 

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They can dismiss that he knowingly set the wheels of his failed coup d'etat in motion.

Agreed, the can dismiss that as you say.  THere's no evidence to support it.

 

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But they cannot ignore a grand jury indictment, nor what's going to come of it.

They can ignore the indictment.  But - what comes after will be the real issue. Hopefully it's not fluff - because if donald wins and "Proves them wrong"  he'll be in the whitehouse. They need convictions on more that jaywalking if they're going to stop that.

[robosmith]

41 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Not even a little bit.

The whole Jan 6th protest was ORGANIZED by Trump and his co-conspirators.

Without Trump, it might have happened on any other day, OR NOT AT ALL.

Trump TOLD THEM to come on Jan 6th and "it will be WILD." Duh

AKA, you are delusional.

41 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You would have to have proof that the mob boss specifically ordered his goons to take that very specific action - i don't think any mob boss in history has ever been convicted of that

You mean YOU DON'T THINK.

Former Mafia boss, 88, convicted of ordering several murders

 

41 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Certainly nobody has ever provided evidence that trump instructed those people to storm the capital.

Well no, he wasn't.  Also look up what the word 'titular' means,  you clearly don't understand it.  But all joe was was the president elect.

You have NO IDEA what evidence Smith has. You have even read the Jan 6th Committee final report. Duh.

He has the TITLE of Head of State. Duh

41 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL  - says the guy who wants to convict trump of insurrecton without evidence or  a trial LOL

What he did FITS the definition.

41 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

Ummm - no, no he won't.  Trump isn't on trial for insurrection.

Not YET.

41 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

IF they were real he'd have filed them now.

You don't know US LAW.

41 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

Not really.  And you're drooling again.

No, proving YOU WRONG and STUPID.

Edited August 20, 2023 by robosmith

[Nationalist]

On 8/15/2023 at 11:44 AM, Rebound said:

Here we have a post made today by four-time indicted Donald Trump. He first states that he believes that Jeff Duncan will testify in Trump’s Georgia trial, and THEN Trump goes on to intimidate him. 
 

“He Shouldn’t [testify],” Trump writes. THAT, is intimidation. Trump has already been warned not to do this, it’s a condition of his existing release in Washington and Florida, not to mention Georgia.  
 

Sam Bankman just had his bail revoked and he got thrown in jail by a Federal judge in New York for the same crime.  
 

This is truly pathetic.

[Aristides]

It doesn't matter what Trump does, The Cult will ignore it.

[Rebound]

58 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

This is truly pathetic.

You’re right, it is pathetic! A former US President intimidating witnesses as if he’s a mafia crime boss.  Disgusting. He’s been told not to do this.  I hope they lock his ass up for life. 

Edited August 20, 2023 by Rebound

[Nationalist]

13 minutes ago, Rebound said:

You’re right, it is pathetic! A former US President intimidating witnesses as if he’s a mafia crime boss.  Disgusting. He’s been told not to do this.  I hope they lock his ass up for life. 

He posts his opinion and notes the guy's partisan RINO positions.

And? Really...this is faking pathetic. It's also childish, and plain old dumb.

A mafia boss...lol. you really have zero idea what your saying.

[robosmith]

59 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

He posts his opinion and notes the guy's partisan RINO positions.

And? Really...this is faking pathetic. It's also childish, and plain old dumb.

A mafia boss...lol. you really have zero idea what your saying.

Because you believe a Mafia crime boss would not intimidate witnesses like Trump does? LMAO

Apparently, you have NO KNOWLEDGE of the Mafia in the US.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

The whole Jan 6th protest was ORGANIZED by Trump and his co-conspirators.

Without Trump, it might have happened on any other day, OR NOT AT ALL.

Trump TOLD THEM to come on Jan 6th and "it will be WILD." Duh

Of course he did it on Jan 6th.  He was still selling the idea that the election was stolen - when else would you do it?

But he organized a peaceful protest of thousands, which he's often done. Not the storming of the capital. 

And you're drooling again.

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AKA, you are delusional.

 

 

LOL - i can always tell when you know you're wrong    You start to freak out and just randomlly throw out insults

Sorry kid - he's not even on trial for that

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You have NO IDEA what evidence Smith has. You have even read the Jan 6th Committee final report. Duh.

I know what evidence he DOESN'T have based on the charges   Sorry kiddo.

 

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He has the TITLE of Head of State. Duh

Not on jan 6th the didn't.

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What he did FITS the definition.

It doesn't even come close unless there's something we don't know. And you're convicting someone without trial... so there you go   Once again your credibility is in the trash.

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Not YET.

Not ever if they don't charge him. And they're not charging him.

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You don't know US LAW.

I know it FAR better than you do - we established that a ways back  

 

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No, proving YOU WRONG and STUPID.

Oh noes!!!  Triggered leftie is triggered!!!!   LOL

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Aristides said:

It doesn't matter what Trump does, The Cult will ignore it.

It doesn't matter what trump doesn't do, The Other Cult will demand  he did do it and he'll be in jail for it tomorrow  

[Rebound]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

He posts his opinion and notes the guy's partisan RINO positions.

And? Really...this is faking pathetic. It's also childish, and plain old dumb.

A mafia boss...lol. you really have zero idea what your saying.

No, sir. No. 
When you know that a person is a witness in a case against you, telling him that he should not testify is NOT “stating your opinion.” It is witness intimidation and it carries a minimum one year in prison. 
 

“A person who, with intent to deter a witness from testifying freely, fully, and truthfully to any matter pending in any court, in any administrative proceeding, or before a grand jury, communicates, directly or indirectly, to such witness any threat of injury or damage to the person, property, or employment of the witness or to the person, property, or employment of any relative or associate of the witness or who offers or delivers any benefit, reward, or consideration to such witness or to a relative or associate of the witness shall, upon conviction thereof, be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than five years.”

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

When you know that a person is a witness in a case against you, telling him that he should not testify is NOT “stating your opinion.” It is witness intimidation and it carries a minimum one year in prison. 

No, it isn't.  As i said before if it doesn't come with a 'what if' then it's not witness tampering.  Simply saying "he shouldn't testify" does not stop or hinder or even necessarily deter the winess from fully freely and truthfully testifying .  It's just an opinion.

Let me put it another way - the prosecution lawyers and the judge probably know the law better than you.  Is he in jail? End of story.

[Nationalist]

13 hours ago, robosmith said:

Because you believe a Mafia crime boss would not intimidate witnesses like Trump does? LMAO

Apparently, you have NO KNOWLEDGE of the Mafia in the US.

Lol...you make some pretty dumb statements. 

[Deluge]

On 8/15/2023 at 9:44 AM, Rebound said:

Here we have a post made today by four-time indicted Donald Trump. He first states that he believes that Jeff Duncan will testify in Trump’s Georgia trial, and THEN Trump goes on to intimidate him. 
 

“He Shouldn’t [testify],” Trump writes. THAT, is intimidation. Trump has already been warned not to do this, it’s a condition of his existing release in Washington and Florida, not to mention Georgia.  
 

Sam Bankman just had his bail revoked and he got thrown in jail by a Federal judge in New York for the same crime.  
 

Having a different opinion is intimidation for you snowflakes. 

This is a nothing burger.

[Caswell Thomas]

He didn't gave to " incite" the Insurrection, evidence presented so far shows he planned it and led it. I'd say that applies. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Caswell Thomas said:

He didn't gave to " incite" the Insurrection, evidence presented so far shows he planned it and led it. I'd say that applies. 

Nope it doesn't.  And your opinion is irrelevant and you should know that.  Now if you can get a judge to convict him of planning a revolt then that's different but nobody's even charged him with that.  Like... at all. So it's a ridiculous thing to say. If the evdence was crystal clear that trump planned an insurrection then he'd be up on charges and he's not.