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10 minutes ago, Rebound said:

So if you were the cop, you would have just let them all through the barricade so they could attack members of Congress before they finished evacuating, correct?

I certainly wouldn't have shot an unarmed women in the throat!

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5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Did any of that happen? No.

Except that cop murdering an unarmed military veteran.

Ok, so you're completely IGNORANT of all the video recordings showing what happened on Jan 6th.

Certainly Carlson didn't show you anything bad about the MAGA CULT from the videos that McCarthy gave him. ?

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5 hours ago, robosmith said:

Then you would not be doing your job as a cop, which is protecting the members of Congress from a mob that is threatening them with the worst kind of violence. ?

You're disgusting. No kidding. Just disgusting. 

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37 minutes ago, Rebound said:

How would you stop a large group of very violent, armed people who are smashing down the last barricade you’ve got between the armed violent mob and the fleeing members of Congress?

You mean all those dangerous people carrying flags? Give it a rest. We've seen the videos and the MOST guilty person in any of them is...Ray Eps.

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4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

You're disgusting. No kidding. Just disgusting. 

Are you trying to tell us that if a mob outside your front door was busting it down, while chanting "hang Tweenkie man," you'd just let them waltz right into your house?

I'll bet you're armed to the teeth and would not hesitate to blow away the first one through the door.

6 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

You mean all those dangerous people carrying flags? Give it a rest. We've seen the videos and the MOST guilty person in any of them is...Ray Eps.

You obviously have ONLY seen the videos cherry picked by LIAR Carlson. LMAO

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41 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Are you trying to tell us that if a mob outside your front door was busting it down, while chanting "hang Tweenkie man," you'd just let them waltz right into your house?

I'll bet you're armed to the teeth and would not hesitate to blow away the first one through the door.

The capital is whose building? That's right...it belongs to the citizens of the USA.

My home is my building.

46 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You obviously have ONLY seen the videos cherry picked by LIAR Carlson. LMAO

I've seen lots of videos. Ray Eps trying to get people to storm the capital...people breaking windows in order to enter their own capital...and guards peacefully escorting various folks around and even into the congressional halls.

Question: Why do you keep insisting that was an "insurrection" when it plainly was not? I mean...do you enjoy being a public joke and a half?

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On 8/11/2023 at 10:48 AM, robosmith said:

I'm truly interested in why you believe Trump's FBI and DHS did NOT WARN Sund with the intelligence they had.

Probably the SAME REASON Trump never called out the National Guard (Pence claimed it was HIM who finally called them). 

Gawd you're stupid.

1) Did the FBI need Trump's permission to warn police and others guarding the capitol of a threat to life and democracy, or is that part of their j-o-b?

2) Leftards love to jump between "Pelosi et al didn't need a lot of protection at the capitol 'cause...." and "TWUMPY WAS SAYING SUCH HATEFOW, VIOWINT THINGS THAT A MASSIV INSOWECTION WAS INEVITABOW AND EVWYWUN NOO IT!!!!" Sorry but you don't get it both ways, stupid. Was there enough hateful, violent rhetoric to expect an insurrection or wasn't there? 

The route to the capitol was perfectly staged so that a few unarmed people could get past the scantly protected barricades and get into the capitol buildings because Pelosi and Epps both had the same end goal in mind "PEOPLE HAVE TO ENTER THE CAPITOL!!!!" 

Did they have the same goal for the same reason? And if not, then why wasn't Ray Epps charged with sedition? No one in the US committed textbook sedition to the extent that Ray Epps did.

He literally did everything that he could over the course of two days to incite that nonsense, then he f'd off.

He was right there at the very finish line, urging on his troops like any good field marshall, then he just skated like an agent provocateur might do. 

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Does that look like a place where a violent insurrection was expected to occur? 

The City Hall in Moosejaw would be better-protected than that if a bunch of hockey moms were angry about the unannounced closure of a Timmy's. Are you honestly telling me that's how well the US can protect their capitol in the face of an anticipated insurrection?  

I hate leftists with a passion. 

 

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5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The capital is whose building? That's right...it belongs to the citizens of the USA.

My home is my building.

The Capitol was CLOSED to visitors on Jan 6th for the official business the MOB DISRUPTED. Duh

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I've seen lots of videos. Ray Eps trying to get people to storm the capital...people breaking windows in order to enter their own capital...and guards peacefully escorting various folks around and even into the congressional halls.

Question: Why do you keep insisting that was an "insurrection" when it plainly was not? I mean...do you enjoy being a public joke and a half?

Do you? Your denial is EMBARRASSING. Did you see the video of when the threatening note was found on Pence's desk?

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Once inside, they used pipes, flagpoles and other weapons to shatter windows and break furniture. One police officer later died of injuries sustained during the onslaught.Dozens of officers were wounded, including some who were struck with a fire extinguisher and another who was dragged down a set of steps and attacked by the crowd.

How battered D.C. police made a stand against the Capitol mob

Many of those in the mob had their sights on Pence — enraged that he had refused President Trump’s demand that he head off the electoral college count that formalized President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

According to the FBI, one man who was charged this week with trespassing and disorderly conduct after making his way into the Senate chamber said in a YouTube video: “Once we found out Pence turned on us and that they had stolen the election, like, officially, the crowd went crazy. I mean, it became a mob.”

At one point, a group of rioters began chanting, “Hang Mike Pence!” as they streamed into the main door on the east side of the Capitol.

One man who made his way into the Senate chamber reached Pence’s chair on the Senate dais. Shirtless, wearing face paint and a furry coyote-tail hat and ­carrying a six-foot-long spear, Jacob A. Chansley of Arizona left a note on the vice president’s desk that read in part, “It’s only a matter of time, justice is ­coming,” according to court filings.

 

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56 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Gawd you're stupid.

No that would be YOU.

56 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

1) Did the FBI need Trump's permission to warn police and others guarding the capitol of a threat to life and democracy, or is that part of their j-o-b?

IF Trump told them to keep quiet, they would need his permission to blab.

56 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

2) Leftards love to jump between "Pelosi et al didn't need a lot of protection at the capitol 'cause...." and "TWUMPY WAS SAYING SUCH HATEFOW, VIOWINT THINGS THAT A MASSIV INSOWECTION WAS INEVITABOW AND EVWYWUN NOO IT!!!!" Sorry but you don't get it both ways, stupid. Was there enough hateful, violent rhetoric to expect an insurrection or wasn't there? 

There was WHEN Trump demanded it on Jan 6th.  Duh.

It seems HIS DOUBLETALK has fooled you, but NOT "his people" who were armed and ready to FIGHT.

56 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The route to the capitol was perfectly staged so that a few unarmed people could get past the scantly protected barricades and get into the capitol buildings because Pelosi and Epps both had the same end goal in mind "PEOPLE HAVE TO ENTER THE CAPITOL!!!!" 

No EVIDENCE that Pelosi wanted that. She is on tape saying OTHERWISE. Duh

56 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Did they have the same goal for the same reason? And if not, then why wasn't Ray Epps charged with sedition? No one in the US committed textbook sedition to the extent that Ray Epps did.

Maybe Epps cooperated with the investigation. Duh. 

56 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

He literally did everything that he could over the course of two days to incite that nonsense, then he f'd off.

That would be Trump.

56 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

He was right there at the very finish line, urging on his troops like any good field marshall, then he just skated like an agent provocateur might do. 

 

Does that look like a place where a violent insurrection was expected to occur? 

The City Hall in Moosejaw would be better-protected than that if a bunch of hockey moms were angry about the unannounced closure of a Timmy's. Are you honestly telling me that's how well the US can protect their capitol in the face of an anticipated insurrection?  

Epps involvement as you described it has been debunked.

He is suing and you will find out how when the trial is held.

56 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I hate leftists with a passion. 

And that makes YOU and YOUR OPINIONS completely UNOBJECTIVE.

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2 hours ago, robosmith said:

The Capitol was CLOSED to visitors on Jan 6th for the official business the MOB DISRUPTED. Duh

Do you? Your denial is EMBARRASSING. Did you see the video of when the threatening note was found on Pence's desk?

 

What trash. Nobody died except Ashli Babbit, who was shot by a brave cop who found an unarmed woman a threat to life. Lol...the great hero.

A threatening note? For Pelosi no less. OMG...did she cry and call her faithful hubby too? I have no sympathy for the dried up old clam.

There was no "insurrection". No matter how hard you try to paint it that way.!

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4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

What trash. Nobody died except Ashli Babbit, who was shot by a brave cop who found an unarmed woman a threat to life. Lol...the great hero.

The MOB BROKE DOWN the DOOR to enter the House chamber.

YOU ADMITTED YOU WOULD DO THE SAME IF IT WERE YOUR HOUSE. HYPOCRITE!

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

A threatening note? For Pelosi no less. OMG...did she cry and call her faithful hubby too? I have no sympathy for the dried up old clam.

Nope it was for PENCE, the TRAITOR they wanted to HANG. You get denser by the minute.

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

There was no "insurrection". No matter how hard you try to paint it that way.!

Disrupting the EC vote count was the PLAN to overturn the election Duh. 

If Pence had gone along, we don't know what would have happened, except that there WOULD BE a Constitutional crisis.

We certainly don't know how THIS SCOTUS would rule.

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10 hours ago, Nationalist said:

What trash. Nobody died except Ashli Babbit, who was shot by a brave cop who found an unarmed woman a threat to life. Lol...the great hero.

A threatening note? For Pelosi no less. OMG...did she cry and call her faithful hubby too? I have no sympathy for the dried up old clam.

There was no "insurrection". No matter how hard you try to paint it that way.!

The N in Nazi stands for Nationalist. 

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6 hours ago, robosmith said:

The MOB BROKE DOWN the DOOR to enter the House chamber.

YOU ADMITTED YOU WOULD DO THE SAME IF IT WERE YOUR HOUSE. HYPOCRITE!

Nope it was for PENCE, the TRAITOR they wanted to HANG. You get denser by the minute.

Disrupting the EC vote count was the PLAN to overturn the election Duh. 

If Pence had gone along, we don't know what would have happened, except that there WOULD BE a Constitutional crisis.

We certainly don't know how THIS SCOTUS would rule.

Lol...it's sure important to you that I believe this crap. Gee...I wonder why? I guess a lie isn't effective if people don't choke it down, eh?

I saw what happened. I will never believe this insurrection garbage. Once we resign old Joe to the pages of "Worst POTUS Ever", we'll free all those wrongly accused and tortured by you sick freaks, and then begin undoing every Tweenkie little thing that's been done to destroy America. The border will close to your illegals, the oil and gas industries will will be unchained, students will pay their Gawd Damn bills, and the economy will roar back.

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23 hours ago, Nationalist said:

You mean all those dangerous people carrying flags? Give it a rest. We've seen the videos and the MOST guilty person in any of them is...Ray Eps.

I mean the people who were bashing in the other side of the barricaded door you see in this photo. Members of Congress were still inside the House chamber, as evidenced by the  Congressman in the blue shirt who tried, unsuccessfully, to stop them. Moments later, Congress was evacuated and these rioters smashed through the barricades.  
 

Personally, I would have shot all those guys but the Capitol Police showed a lot of restraint that day.  Shooting them would have been easily justified.  
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25 minutes ago, Rebound said:

I mean the people who were bashing in the other side of the barricaded door you see in this photo. Members of Congress were still inside the House chamber, as evidenced by the  Congressman in the blue shirt who tried, unsuccessfully, to stop them. Moments later, Congress was evacuated and these rioters smashed through the barricades.  
 

Personally, I would have shot all those guys but the Capitol Police showed a lot of restraint that day.  Shooting them would have been easily justified.  
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smashed through the barricades and...

https://nypost.com/2023/03/06/jan-6-footage-shows-cops-bringing-qanon-shaman-to-senate-floor/

I know YOU would have opened fire but...when your soul is filled with hatred...meh...y'are what y'are now.

Lost.

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On 8/11/2023 at 11:48 AM, robosmith said:

I'm truly interested in why you believe Trump's FBI and DHS did NOT WARN Sund with the intelligence they had.

Probably the SAME REASON Trump never called out the National Guard (Pence claimed it was HIM who finally called them). 

BTW, you seem to have a lot of familiarity with hiding behind skirts. Esp since you're on record here as spending whatever your wife wants and she's the ONLY person who can tell you what to do. LMAO

If you expect anyone to watch an hour of Carlson, you'd NEED to make a better case for that. Duh

Oh so he's the bad guy... how predictable.

On 8/12/2023 at 2:06 PM, robosmith said:

Sure. I wonder why you SO EASILY BELIEVE a conspiracy theory against Democrats but IGNORE the MOUNTAIN of EVIDENCE that Trump did it to serve his personal VANITY and LUST for POWER. 

You are such a rube.

Yours is all delusions. 

Ours is rooted in fact. 

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1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

smashed through the barricades and...

https://nypost.com/2023/03/06/jan-6-footage-shows-cops-bringing-qanon-shaman-to-senate-floor/

I know YOU would have opened fire but...when your soul is filled with hatred...meh...y'are what y'are now.

Lost.

If a gang was trying to smash through the barricaded front door of your house, wouldn’t you shoot them?

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21 minutes ago, Rebound said:

If a gang was trying to smash through the barricaded front door of your house, wouldn’t you shoot them?

ITS THEIR HOUSE! And in that particular case...no. I wouldn't shoot them. I'd let them in to have their say and be done with it. Pelosi's life was never in danger and neither was any of them. These were angry Americans who needed to vent. You clowns turned them into criminals with your lies and deceptions.

But...as luck would have it...McCarthy saw fit to give the entire video collection to the one person he new would publish it and drive you Tweenkies out of your minds at the same time. Two birds with one stone.

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