Fauci Referred for Criminal Investigation

[WestCanMan]

26 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Fixed that for ya.  ?

TBH I was probably overestimating leftists by saying that they get confused - they don't think so how could they? 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

NOT if the contract did NOT authorize GoF research. IOW, there are many scenarios by which it COULD have been performed without NIH nor Fauci's knowledge.

It is you who is LYING.

Lol...always trying to hide behind one skirt or another.

[WestCanMan]

35 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...always trying to hide behind one skirt or another.

Even Fauci is protected by leftists, hey? 

The weird thing is that they have no clue just how low Fauci's credibility is. They think that they can prop him up just by saying things like "there are many scenarios by which it COULD have been performed without NIH nor Fauci's knowledge". He's well past the point of having any credibility. 

It might make sense if Fauci hadn't already admitted that exact funding came from his office. 

Next time they try to say "Trump said the election was rigged" I'll ask for a cite and then pretend that he never actually said it. I just wanna see how the other half lives for a day (at least within the context of lying in internet forums). 

Edited August 10, 2023 by WestCanMan

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...always trying to hide behind one skirt or another.

^Always failing to understand the nuances of every situation. 

Including your OWN CITE which contradicts your OPINION HERE. 

[robosmith]

32 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Even Fauci is protected by leftists, hey? 

The weird thing is that they have no clue just how low Fauci's credibility is. They think that they can prop him up just by saying things like "there are many scenarios by which it COULD have been performed without NIH nor Fauci's knowledge". He's well past the point of having any credibility. 

It might make sense if Fauci hadn't already admitted that exact funding came from his office. 

Next time they try to say "Trump said the election was rigged" I'll ask for a cite and then pretend that he never actually said it. I just wanna see how the other half lives for a day (at least within the context of lying in internet forums). 

Your example is stupid when there are MANY videos of Trump saying exactly "the election was rigged." Duh.

Show us where Fauci admitted that the contract with Wuhan authorized GoF research. 

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

NOT if the contract did NOT authorize GoF research. IOW, there are many scenarios by which it COULD have been performed without NIH nor Fauci's knowledge.

It is you who is LYING.

Lol...the, "Oh...Oh...Oh...I got skirt to hide behind!"

Pathetic.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Your cite clearly says his statement was only false when taken out of the CONTEXT of Paul's question. 

AKA, it was true in the context of the question asked. Duh.

"Reason" is the only one who posts that meme here. Typical insane right winger.

Ya know...if you get on your hands and knees...you could slip yourself right up that skirt you're trying to hide behind.

Hey! Mabe ever get a good wiff. 

[Nationalist]

46 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Even Fauci is protected by leftists, hey? 

The weird thing is that they have no clue just how low Fauci's credibility is. They think that they can prop him up just by saying things like "there are many scenarios by which it COULD have been performed without NIH nor Fauci's knowledge". He's well past the point of having any credibility. 

It might make sense if Fauci hadn't already admitted that exact funding came from his office. 

Next time they try to say "Trump said the election was rigged" I'll ask for a cite and then pretend that he never actually said it. I just wanna see how the other half lives for a day (at least within the context of lying in internet forums). 

I know. It's childish. Meh...that sort of childish garbolla is expected from Libbies now.

15 minutes ago, robosmith said:

^Always failing to understand the nuances of every situation. 

Including your OWN CITE which contradicts your OPINION HERE. 

Oh I understand you robo-bot. Better than you'd like.

[SpankyMcFarland]

Rand Paul has no power to pursue his personal feud with Fauci in this fashion.

[WestCanMan]

43 minutes ago, robosmith said:

^Always failing to understand the nuances of every situation. 

Including your OWN CITE which contradicts your OPINION HERE. 

To you "nuance" means your own ability to keep your head up your ass and pretend not to understand anything. 

Fauci absolutely did fund GoF research, that's not up for debate. You're just not up to speed. 

^^ basically says that NiH funded research which "increased" the coronavirus's transmissibility among humans. 

Fauci argued that:

1) increasing of transmissibility does not constitute GoF research and

2) "it is molecularly impossible for any of the viruses noted in his literature to be the one which is known as the SARS-CoV-2 virus"

Re #1) It's just semantics to debate whether or not the increased transmissibility constitutes GoF, it's a case of "whose definition do we use", but the argument against that is pretty weak. If there's a virus that's not transmissible among humans that's a good thing. Adding that functionality to it is like opening Pandora's Box. 

Main takeaway - YEAH, Fauci's dept funded research which made the exact type of coronavirus that eventually infected humans more transmissible, but not necessarily the exact strain that got out and caused the infection. It's still possible that the lab virus never got out, but there's this: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/u-s-intel-report-identified-3-wuhan-lab-researchers-who-n1268327

Re #2), Who's to say that all the viruses in the Wuhan lab were accounted for on that sheet, or that there were no new viruses created since that time, or that the virus from the lab isn't the one that came in contact with The Pangolin of Destiny to eventually mutate into covid, etc, etc.

Fauci's original assertion that the bat-pangolin-human trifecta was the source of the pandemic has been deemed less and less credible all the time. Consensus has shifted to "very likely from the lab". 

Edited August 10, 2023 by WestCanMan

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Ya know...if you get on your hands and knees...you could slip yourself right up that skirt you're trying to hide behind.

Hey! Mabe ever get a good wiff. 

I'm not trying to hide anything. But you're trying to hide from the parts of YOUR CITE that PROVE YOU WRONG. Duh

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

I know. It's childish. Meh...that sort of childish garbolla is expected from Libbies now.

Oh I understand you robo-bot. Better than you'd like.

We know you're JUST DEFLECTING from YOUR F'UP. LMAO

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

To you "nuance" means your own ability to keep your head up your ass and pretend not to understand anything. 

Fauci absolutely did fund GoF research, that's not up for debate. You're just not up to speed. 

^^ basically says that NiH funded research which "increased" the coronavirus's transmissibility among humans. 

Fauci argued that:

1) increasing of transmissibility does not constitute GoF research and

2) "it is molecularly impossible for any of the viruses noted in his literature to be the one which is known as the SARS-CoV-2 virus"

Re #1) It's just semantics to debate whether or not the increased transmissibility constitutes GoF, it's a case of "whose definition do we use", but the argument against that is pretty weak. If there's a virus that's not transmissible among humans that's a good thing. Adding that functionality to it is like opening Pandora's Box. 

Main takeaway - YEAH, Fauci's dept funded research which made the exact type of coronavirus that eventually infected humans more transmissible, but not necessarily the exact strain that got out and caused the infection. It's still possible that the lab virus never got out, but there's this: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/u-s-intel-report-identified-3-wuhan-lab-researchers-who-n1268327

Re #2), Who's to say that all the viruses in the Wuhan lab were accounted for on that sheet, or that there were no new viruses created since that time, or that the virus from the lab isn't the one that came in contact with The Pangolin of Destiny to eventually mutate into covid, etc, etc.

Fauci's original assertion that the bat-pangolin-human trifecta was the source of the pandemic has been deemed less and less credible all the time. Consensus has shifted to "very likely from the lab". 

Admitting it WAS DONE is not AUTHORIZING IT. Duh.

Show that it was AUTHORIZED in the CONTRACT. 

IF you CANNOT, there is NO LIABILITY on Fauci's part.

[Rebound]

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Are you trying to overthrow the American gov't right now? Because that's what it looks like. 

I'm pretty sure that it takes at least 300 unarmed people to do that. Maybe 100 if you're armed? Don't quote me on the exact numbers, I'm not an expert on Pelosi/leftard math. 

Would you agree that the American Civil War was, in fact, an insurrection? Cause the South lost.  The law can only prosecute an attempted rebellion, not a successful one. 
 

If you win an armed rebellion, you aren’t prosecuted.  Washington, Adams and Jefferson weren’t prosecuted… they won! 

Edited August 11, 2023 by Rebound

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Would you agree that the American Civil War was, in fact, an insurrection?

It was a civil war.

If it was an insurrection then it was the south that were the insurrectionists because they're the ones who went against the duly elected federal gov't by seceding and then taking over federal bases and institutions.

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Cause the South lost.  The law can only prosecute an attempted rebellion, not a successful one. 

And when they lost, the secession was over and they were all a part of the US again. As far as losing a war goes, the punishment wasn't all that bad. Other losers have endured much worse. 

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If you win an armed rebellion, you aren’t prosecuted.  Washington, Adams and Jefferson weren’t prosecuted… they won! 

If you kill one man then you're a murderer, but if you kill a million you're a hero. I've heard this one before.

 

Still, things like questioning Dominion stopped being cool on exactly Nov 4 2020 and suddenly became treason. Voicing any concerns at all over the integrity of the 2020 US election is treason.

You can make up anything you want about the 2016 election, you can even commit crimes to get warrants to spy on that duly elected gov't, but the 2020 gov't is sacrosanct. Just accept it. It's democratic ?

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

I'm not trying to hide anything. But you're trying to hide from the parts of YOUR CITE that PROVE YOU WRONG. Duh

We know you're JUST DEFLECTING from YOUR F'UP. LMAO

He's a liar...and so are you

 

[Hodad]

7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

 

Fauci absolutely did fund GoF research, that's not up for debate.

...

Re #1) It's just semantics to debate whether or not the increased transmissibility constitutes GoF, it's a case of "whose definition do we use", 

^^ You see, pathological liars often can't keep their lies straight. They just say whatever is convenient in any given moment. And in the next moment will happily say the exact opposite. See Trump.

[Rebound]

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

It was a civil war.

If it was an insurrection then it was the south that were the insurrectionists because they're the ones who went against the duly elected federal gov't by seceding and then taking over federal bases and institutions.

And when they lost, the secession was over and they were all a part of the US again. As far as losing a war goes, the punishment wasn't all that bad. Other losers have endured much worse. 

If you kill one man then you're a murderer, but if you kill a million you're a hero. I've heard this one before.

 

Still, things like questioning Dominion stopped being cool on exactly Nov 4 2020 and suddenly became treason. Voicing any concerns at all over the integrity of the 2020 US election is treason.

You can make up anything you want about the 2016 election, you can even commit crimes to get warrants to spy on that duly elected gov't, but the 2020 gov't is sacrosanct. Just accept it. It's democratic ?

You just can’t stop lying, can you?

It was never treason to question Dominion or anything. Asking questions is healthy.  What Trump, Fox News, Powell and others did was defame and slander Dominion.  They did not question, they made up lies, such as nonsense that Dominion was owned by a Venezuelan dictator who had been dead for twenty years, and that Dominion could log into their air-gapped voting machines and flip the results, and on and on.  None of those things were remotely true.  
 

Powell: “The computer glitches could not and should not have happened at all. That’s where the fraud took place, where they were flipping votes in the computer system or adding votes that did not exist.”

Powell wasn’t asking a question. She made a statement as fact.  It’s safe to say that if your local government officials told you that they are buying all new Dominion voting machines for the next election, you would object, wouldn’t you? 

Edited August 11, 2023 by Rebound

[Moonbox]

7 hours ago, Hodad said:

^^ You see, pathological liars often can't keep their lies straight. They just say whatever is convenient in any given moment. And in the next moment will happily say the exact opposite. See Trump.

He's not a pathological liar.  He's just an angry, deluded fool.  His critical thinking hat blew away when his train went off the rails, many years ago.  

[Hodad]

12 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

He's not a pathological liar.  He's just an angry, deluded fool.  His critical thinking hat blew away when his train went off the rails, many years ago.  

Those things aren't exclusive.  There's ample evidence of core, fundamental dishonesty. It doesn't require critical thinking to acknowledge basic facts, but he'll hold tight to lies about anything that feels convenient, from the weather to dates of publish--things which need not be argued or reasoned, but simply observed and acknowledged.

My absolute favorite is denying that it rained during the Trump inauguration while reading contemporaneous reports of the rain, looking at photographic evidence of the rain, and the fact that people on stage speaking at the inauguration referred to the rain. That's not a failure of critical thinking. Trump lied about it, so his sycophants repeated the lie. -- There are many other colorful examples, but none more illustrative. 

 

[robosmith]

8 hours ago, Nationalist said:

He's a liar...and so are you

 

Your own cite says Fauci didn't lie to Paul. Duh

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In a heated exchange in July, Republican Sen. Rand Paul accused Fauci of lying when he claimed that NIH did not fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Experts now say that the documents support the contention that NIH funded gain-of-function work, though not in the specific instance where Paul alleged it.

You're the one who is LYING. 

[Nationalist]

48 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Your own cite says Fauci didn't lie to Paul. Duh

You're the one who is LYING. 

 

49 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Experts now say that the documents support the contention that NIH funded gain-of-function work

Fauci said, over and over, that the NIH never funded G0F. They/He did.

He lied...he's guilty of perjury...I hope he rots in a cage...and then in Hell.!

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

 

Fauci said, over and over, that the NIH never funded G0F. They/He did.

He lied...he's guilty of perjury...I hope he rots in a cage...and then in Hell.!

^Tripling down on your F'UP.

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In a heated exchange in July, Republican Sen. Rand Paul accused Fauci of lying when he claimed that NIH did not fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Experts now say that the documents support the contention that NIH funded gain-of-function work, though not in the specific instance where Paul alleged it.

 

[WestCanMan]

On 8/11/2023 at 6:23 AM, Rebound said:

You just can’t stop lying, can you?

It was never treason to question Dominion or anything. Asking questions is healthy.  What Trump, Fox News, Powell and others did was defame and slander Dominion.  They did not question, they made up lies, such as nonsense that Dominion was owned by a Venezuelan dictator who had been dead for twenty years, and that Dominion could log into their air-gapped voting machines and flip the results, and on and on.  None of those things were remotely true.  
 

Powell: “The computer glitches could not and should not have happened at all. That’s where the fraud took place, where they were flipping votes in the computer system or adding votes that did not exist.”

Powell wasn’t asking a question. She made a statement as fact.  It’s safe to say that if your local government officials told you that they are buying all new Dominion voting machines for the next election, you would object, wouldn’t you? 

Are you talking about Trump or Powell? 

Do I trust Dominion voting machines? I don't trust anyone that you trust. That would obviously be the epitome of stupidity.

[Rebound]

On 8/10/2023 at 7:10 PM, Nationalist said:

Ya know...if you get on your hands and knees...you could slip yourself right up that skirt you're trying to hide behind.

Hey! Mabe ever get a good wiff. 

Get your mind out of the gutter. 

[robosmith]

On 8/10/2023 at 11:55 AM, Rebound said:

Excuse me, but what is a Trickle Thread?

Here is the trickle thread.

@Goddess does not know how to post links. Hint: click on the infinity symbol in the post banner

Edited August 31, 2023 by robosmith