Liberals 'resettling' asylum seekers by dumping them on the pavement

[CdnFox]

https://epaper.nationalpost.com/article/281505050686688

And

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/sabrina-maddeaux-liberals-resettling-asylum-seekers-by-dumping-them-on-the-pavement

Just a few weeks ago, on World Refugee Day, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau trumpeted his government’s commitment to refugees. In a statement, he said, “Everyone deserves a safe place to call home … And Canada is stepping up: In 2022, for the fourth year in a row, we were the top country in the world to resettle refugees.” He concluded it with, “Today, we come together as Canadians to keep our country a welcoming place and help build a safer world for everyone.”

His high-minded words are near impossible to square with the current scene unfolding in downtown Toronto. Asylum seekers, including families and children, are being effectively abandoned on the pavement outside of 129 Peter St., a City of Toronto assessment and referral centre for those experiencing homelessness.

The trouble is, Toronto’s shelters are full, so there’s nowhere to refer asylum seekers to when they land at Pearson International Airport. Instead, they’re sent to wait outside 129 Peter indefinitely.

They’ve been sleeping on concrete for weeks, through heat- and air-quality warnings, through thunderstorms and cold nights, many without adequate food or water.

 

I believe it was Exflyer who said there's no housing crisis, that the "immigrants will be just fine"?  We can't even find shelter for the refugees.

And while it's not reported here other sources have noted that a big part of the problem is there's no permanet  homes available for the refugees so they get backed up and stuck in the shelters and there's no where for them to go, and the shelters are full.

This is going to get worse.  We CANNOT be letting these people in if we dont'  have the means to care for them!

[SNOWFLAKE]

Anyone else notice something? The Righties now have this site all to their own. Either 0 or near 0 responses to threads like this. They NOW have their own crybaby site where they can whine and high five each other, while those who are actually looking for a debate have moved on to other forums. 

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I believe it was Exflyer who said

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there's no housing crisis, that the "immigrants will be just fine"?  We can't even find shelter for the refugees.

Sooo, he said something that wasn't true. Hmmm. 

What were you expecting? 

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And while it's not reported here other sources have noted that a big part of the problem is there's no permanet  homes available for the refugees so they get backed up and stuck in the shelters and there's no where for them to go, and the shelters are full.

This is going to get worse.  We CANNOT be letting these people in if we dont'  have the means to care for them!

 

Explaining that to liberals is like telling kids that they need to make healthier eating choices, leaving a box of Fruit Loops on the counter, and then saying "Hey, why is all this broccoli still here? I woulda swore my kid was gonna eat it after my great speech."

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, SNOWFLAKE said:

Anyone else notice something? The Righties now have this site all to their own. Either 0 or near 0 responses to threads like this. They NOW have their own crybaby site where they can whine and high five each other, while those who are actually looking for a debate have moved on to other forums. 

Holy shit kid   Calm down and go and change your diaper!

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

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Sooo, he said something that wasn't true. Hmmm. 

What were you expecting?

Desperately hoping somehow by some miracle  I"D be the one who turned out to be wrong for once.  Sadly - no.

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Explaining that to liberals is like telling kids that they need to make healthier eating choices, leaving a box of Fruit Loops on the counter, and then saying "Hey, why is all this broccoli still here? I woulda swore my kid was gonna eat it after my great speech."

LOL well true enough.

But at the end of the day the problem remains - and the public needs to realize that  a) the libs don't care and this is going to continue and b) this is going to have MAJOR consequences for us.

one only has to look at many of the european countries to see what happens when immigrants are brought in and then dumped and left to their own devices.  They will eventually wind up in little groups and become extremely disenfranchised and eventually violent and rebellious.

We have to point this out to the public until people are willing to demand the libs knock it off and scale it back to a number we CAN support.

[ExFlyer]

14 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

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I believe it was Exflyer who said there's no housing crisis, that the "immigrants will be just fine"?  We can't even find shelter for the refugees.

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News cycle...it will be gone in a day or 2 LOL

Just now, CdnFox said:

Desperately hoping somehow by some miracle  I"D be the one who turned out to be wrong for once.  Sadly - no.

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Ask an AI robot, it says you are wrong LOL

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, ExFlyer said:

News cycle...it will be gone in a day or 2 LOL

 

You think the people will be too?

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Ask an AI robot, it says you are wrong LOL

So ask something that doesn't know?  Well i could just ask you if i want an uneducated reply based on tonnes of liberal input  

[herbie]

Do you want to see govt run refugee camps instead?
That would seem to be a workable solution, obviously not the first choice, but a safe, properly run place outside the downtowns where they can be until proper placement is found. They don't have to be like 3rd world where they remain for generations, more like for months.

Or is impossible to manage such a system?

[Legato]

14 minutes ago, SNOWFLAKE said:

Anyone else notice something? The Righties now have this site all to their own. Either 0 or near 0 responses to threads like this. They NOW have their own crybaby site where they can whine and high five each other, while those who are actually looking for a debate have moved on to other forums. 

Should try debating instead trying to emulate a 737, after all, a 737 stops whining after landing.

[SNOWFLAKE]

Just now, Legato said:

Should try debating instead trying to emulate a 737, after all, a 737 stops whining after landing.

There IS debate on this forum? Say what?

 

[WestCanMan]

12 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

News cycle...it will be gone in a day or 2 LOL

What's with your fascination about how long it will take for the news cycle to drop a story? You kept saying that about forcing people to take the useless jab as well. 

Do you feel like something ceases to be wrong when the media stops talking about it? 

FYI you didn't have to define the exact details of your ultra-low morality for us, we get it loud and clear. 

[WestCanMan]

11 minutes ago, herbie said:

Do you want to see govt run refugee camps instead?
That would seem to be a workable solution, obviously not the first choice, but a safe, properly run place outside the downtowns where they can be until proper placement is found. They don't have to be like 3rd world where they remain for generations, more like for months.

Or is impossible to manage such a system?

Refugees don't remain anywhere for 'generations'. The only reason why there are still Palestinian "refugee camps" is to foment hatred against Israel. 

The number of refugees taken in during the islamic state situation was several times higher than the total number of "Palestinian refugees". Those guys could all have resettled generations ago if they were interested. 

[Nationalist]

32 minutes ago, SNOWFLAKE said:

There IS debate on this forum? Say what?

 

There is. You don't engage in it...but there is debate.

[Nationalist]

36 minutes ago, herbie said:

Do you want to see govt run refugee camps instead?
That would seem to be a workable solution, obviously not the first choice, but a safe, properly run place outside the downtowns where they can be until proper placement is found. They don't have to be like 3rd world where they remain for generations, more like for months.

Or is impossible to manage such a system?

Lol...this is cute. 

Q: How did you react to the cages in Texas?

 

[Nationalist]

45 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

News cycle...it will be gone in a day or 2 LOL

Which is shameful...wouldn't you agree?

45 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Ask an AI robot, it says you are wrong LOL

AI programmed by nerds with green hair and pie in the sky ideals.

Edited July 17, 2023 by Nationalist

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, herbie said:

Do you want to see govt run refugee camps instead?

I want less refugees until we have the ability to cope with the numbers.  Period. 

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That would seem to be a workable solution, obviously not the first choice, but a safe, properly run place outside the downtowns where they can be until proper placement is found. They don't have to be like 3rd world where they remain for generations, more like for months.

It's more workable than letting them live on the streets but it's not a solution to anything. 

The bottleneck is our resources to integrate them into our society. We don't have the homes or the healthcare or the sponsors or the infrastructure to process these people as fast as they are arriving. Until we build more homes, have more resources etc we HAVE to reduce the numbers.  We are doing NOONE any favors by bringing in people we can't support.

 

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Or is impossible to manage such a system?

It would be possible to manage it for a time but you're coming at it from the wrong end.   It's like looking to add a bigger toilet bowl because the toliet is plugged - that's still going to eventually be a problem.   We have to clear the pipes so that water can flow properly and not put anything else into the bowl before that is done.

Canada has been the world's most successful country for immigration policy for many decades because of one reason - we have always been able to successfully integrate the new people coming in as fast as they come in. But - since trudeau has taken over that system has become more strained - and now we're at the point we can't keep up.

That is disastrous.  We cannot bring in more people than we can process - and that is a complicated and intricate system.  And currently it's overloaded.

40 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Do you feel like something ceases to be wrong when the media stops talking about it? 

That is the most telling part of his comment  --  he's not concerned about the immigrants, he's not concerned about the harm to them or the country.... he's concerned it's in the news and making his liberals look bad.

[ExFlyer]

18 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Which is shameful...wouldn't you agree?

AI programmed by nerds with green hair and pie in the sky ideals.

A news cycle is as long as need be and this news will be gone tomorrow unless folks like you keep bringing it up like COVID but it will only be regurgitated stuff. LOL

Ha HA HA....only because guys like you and cdnfux get called out by a robot LOL

AI could not care less who or what you are, it dissects what you say and creates a reply based on your words.

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

A news cycle is as long as need be and this news will be gone tomorrow unless folks like you keep bringing it up like COVID but it will only be regurgitated stuff. LOL

So it's ok that these people are living on the streets as long as it's not in the news embarrassing the liberals?

Well there you go folks - the "compassionate"  Left wing 

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Ha HA HA....only because guys like you and cdnfux get called out by a robot LOL

You're not even making sense any more LOL - looks like we broke you

 

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AI could not care less who or what you are, it dissects what you say and creates a reply based on your words.  

No, it doesn't.  It creates a reply based on the thousands of other similar replies it's been given as examples.

So - if you give it a bunch of liberal talking points - it spits out liberal talking points.

Which is what it did for you    It didn't 'call anyone out' -  you were just too stupid to realize that all it was doing is regurgitating crap from people who are equally stupid as you  

[herbie]

Thank you CdnFox for actually discussing the subject.

The idea was just the quickest 'solution' I could think of that was actually doable. Kind of obvious 500,000 housing units are not gonna be built every year to accommodate anyone let alone the people already here needing them.
And if no one is gonna make them live away from major cities to earn their citizenship/landed immigrant status, we're completely hooped.

But we need more people to fill and grow the country and no one's gonna promote a $1000 a month 'baby bonus' either.

[ironstone]

1 hour ago, SNOWFLAKE said:

Anyone else notice something? The Righties now have this site all to their own. Either 0 or near 0 responses to threads like this. They NOW have their own crybaby site where they can whine and high five each other, while those who are actually looking for a debate have moved on to other forums. 

Twitter used to  be like that before Musk took it over. But it was the lefties that owned it.

Nothing stopping you from putting your leftist responses up for all to see.

[Nationalist]

26 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

A news cycle is as long as need be and this news will be gone tomorrow unless folks like you keep bringing it up like COVID but it will only be regurgitated stuff. LOL

Ha HA HA....only because guys like you and cdnfux get called out by a robot LOL

AI could not care less who or what you are, it dissects what you say and creates a reply based on your words.

Well I think this is rather important so...ya...stayin' on it. We have a fools pipe-dream and an id1ot's management. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Thank you CdnFox for actually discussing the subject.

The idea was just the quickest 'solution' I could think of that was actually doable.

Sure, and as far as band aids go it's reasonable but it leads to bad consequences if it's not quickly followed up with permanent solutions.

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Kind of obvious 500,000 housing units are not gonna be built every year to accommodate anyone let alone the people already here needing them.

Yeah.  At least not in the immediate future.  But that does mean we have to seriously consider scaling things back till we can fix that.

 

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And if no one is gonna make them live away from major cities to earn their citizenship/landed immigrant status, we're completely hooped. But we need more people to fill and grow the country and no one's gonna promote a $1000 a month 'baby bonus' either.

Immigration is imporant but we should seperate 'immigrants" from "refugees" when we're discussing it.

Refugees are an emergency situation rather than part of our plan to productively grow our population.

And sure - everyone wants to help out when someone's in trouble. 

But here's the reality - if you have 10 people in the water, and your lifeboat holds 9 max.. then trying to bring that 10th person on board sinks the boat and kills all ten, rather than the 1 you would have left in the water.

We have to be honest about what we can do, and what we can't.  Otherwise we wind up helping nobody.

[suds]

My advice to these homeless refugees in Canada would be to head south. You might be lucky enough to end up in Martha's vineyard.

[I am Groot]

18 hours ago, herbie said:

Do you want to see govt run refugee camps instead?

Absolutely.

18 hours ago, herbie said:

That would seem to be a workable solution, obviously not the first choice, but a safe, properly run place outside the downtowns where they can be until proper placement is found. They don't have to be like 3rd world where they remain for generations, more like for months.

Or is impossible to manage such a system?

It's impossible given the glacial slowness of our refugee determination system. Last time I heard it was a minimum of three years before an applicant even got their first hearing. Then there are more years of waiting through hearings, then appeals, then more appeals. We can't put someone in a camp for six or seven years when they might actually be a legitimate refugee. Well, we can, but we should not.

The only way to do this is to write a new law on refugee determination and put it under the notwithstanding clause to keep the lawyers away. Give them a quick hearing, ie, within weeks, then an appeal if they make one, again within weeks. Then back they go to whatever jurisdiction they arrived from.

IF that is even possible. A lot of them destroy their documents before applying, then give phony names. If we can't prove who they are it's much harder to send them back to their own country. What we need to be able to do is send them back to whatever country they arrived from, be it the US or France or wherever. If they caught a plane there for here we send them back. Unfortunately, a lot of countries aren't willing to accept that because then the migrant becomes their problem.

17 hours ago, ironstone said:

Nothing stopping you from putting your leftist responses up for all to see.

And laugh at...

[herbie]

What makes you think they'd have to stay in a camp for six or seven years? I said, until proper accommodations are found pretty clearly.

You seem to think what 3rd world countries do is the only way things can be done, just as you assume the worst offenders are common examples of refugees. You also think we can 'just send them back' before we even find them ineligible.

If you actually think taking in refugees is a "leftist" idea, you're so far to the right you're shouting at clouds.