I am Groot Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 On 7/10/2023 at 4:26 AM, August1991 said: Our current federal PM cannot leave NATO. He needs the Slavic/Ukrainian votes. I reckon Poilievre could leave NATO. If he wanted to see half his base up in arms for no profit. Where do you get these dumb ideas? Quote
August1991 Posted July 12, 2023 Author Report Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) On 7/10/2023 at 2:27 PM, Nationalist said: Not true at all. First of all, the EU is made up of 27 countries. There are 31 in NATO. .... NATO is one thing. The European Union another. ==== Like Thatcher and Trudeau Snr, I too prefer counterweights. Edited July 12, 2023 by August1991 Quote
Nationalist Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, August1991 said: NATO is one thing. The European Union another. ==== Like Thatcher and Trudeau Snr, I too prefer counterweights. Counter weights? Do you consider the equalization, the NEP, and the infamous finger at protestors in BC...counter weights? I don't know about Thatcher but, PET turned out to be merely concerned with Quebec. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
August1991 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/10/2023 at 4:46 PM, Dougie93 said: France never left NATO France remained a member of NATO France simply withdrew from the NATO integrated command structure under the SACEUR France has since reversed the 1966 decision rejoining the NATO integrated command structure in 2009 As you wish. ===== NATO, 2023? This is game theory: I win-you lose. Biden wants to defeat Putin. Regime change. Quote
August1991 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 Pearson in 1956 walked these people away from war. Poilievre can do the same. Quote
August1991 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Counter weights? Do you consider the equalization, the NEP, and the infamous finger at protestors in BC...counter weights? '''' Good point. Equalisation is costly. But in Canada, we have no federal education bureaucracy. No HEW. Quote
August1991 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 And in Canada, we never had a civil war. Quote
Aristides Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, August1991 said: And in Canada, we never had a civil war. 1837 Rebellion. Riel Rebellion. Quote
August1991 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Aristides said: 1837 Rebellion. Riel Rebellion. Victor Hugo - wonderful novel Quote
August1991 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 Aristides, We Canadians have largely avoided wars - killing ourselves. And we Canadians, whatever the religion or language, live to together in peace. Quote
RedDog Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 Both TrootOwes are everlasting embarrassments. A legacy of central CanaDUH disgust. Quote
Aristides Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 17 hours ago, August1991 said: Aristides, We Canadians have largely avoided wars - killing ourselves. And we Canadians, whatever the religion or language, live to together in peace. NATO isn't about Canadians living together in peace, it is about discouraging conflict between countries. 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/10/2023 at 4:58 PM, Aristides said: Soviet Union and now Russia. Do you live under a rock? Not a rock, alternative reality. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Dougie93 Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 20 hours ago, August1991 said: As you wish. ===== NATO, 2023? This is game theory: I win-you lose. Biden wants to defeat Putin. Regime change. what do you win ? Canada is never going to leave NATO Canada will simply continue to be an international embarrassment for failing to equip its military for the task worst of both worlds Quote
August1991 Posted July 15, 2023 Author Report Posted July 15, 2023 On 7/13/2023 at 4:37 PM, Dougie93 said: what do you win ? Canada is never going to leave NATO Canada will simply continue to be an international embarrassment for failing to equip its military for the task worst of both worlds 1. We should leave NATO. 2. We should equip our soldiers properly for their jobs. Quote
August1991 Posted July 15, 2023 Author Report Posted July 15, 2023 On 7/13/2023 at 2:54 PM, Aristides said: NATO isn't about Canadians living together in peace, it is about discouraging conflict between countries. Disagree. NATO is now about US control/power. Quote
Dougie93 Posted July 15, 2023 Report Posted July 15, 2023 9 hours ago, August1991 said: 1. We should leave NATO. 2. We should equip our soldiers properly for their jobs. without the NATO tasking, there is no reason for Canada to have any military forces at all without the Anglo-American Hegemomy, there is no reason for Canada to exist at all Canada being a de facto protectorate of the Anglo-American Empire of Liberty United Kingdom United States of America Agreement ( UKUSA ) Canada will render unto American Caesar therein to include being dragged along with NATO, kicking & screaming or otherwise Quote
August1991 Posted July 22, 2023 Author Report Posted July 22, 2023 On 7/15/2023 at 7:58 AM, Dougie93 said: without the NATO tasking, there is no reason for Canada to have any military forces at all without the Anglo-American Hegemomy, there is no reason for Canada to exist at all Canada being a de facto protectorate of the Anglo-American Empire of Liberty United Kingdom United States of America Agreement ( UKUSA ) Canada will render unto American Caesar therein to include being dragged along with NATO, kicking & screaming or otherwise Disagree. Reagan won. The Soviets lost. "Anglo-American Hegemony"? We in Canada are not an American protectorate. You Americans are admirable neighbours. Quote
August1991 Posted July 22, 2023 Author Report Posted July 22, 2023 NATO was designed to stop Communism - listen to the speeches of Truman and JFK. (Like Reagan, JFK was harsh.) (Nixon wanted to deal with these people.) ==== Anyway, the Soviet Union is no more, and the only Soviets/Marxists are in American universities. Quote
August1991 Posted July 24, 2023 Author Report Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/12/2023 at 8:09 PM, Nationalist said: Counter weights? Do you consider the equalization, the NEP, and the infamous finger at protestors in BC...counter weights? I don't know about Thatcher but, PET turned out to be merely concerned with Quebec. Canada is a civilised federal state. From around the world, people want to live here. In Canada, we have various counter-weights. Our primary counter-weight is Quebec. Quote
August1991 Posted July 24, 2023 Author Report Posted July 24, 2023 No foreigner really wants to live in rich countries like Sweden/Norway/Finland - Germany. They want to live in America. ====== Canada is cold. Quote
Nationalist Posted July 25, 2023 Report Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, August1991 said: Canada is a civilised federal state. From around the world, people want to live here. In Canada, we have various counter-weights. Our primary counter-weight is Quebec. Quebec is mugging Canada and everyone outside Quebec knows it. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
August1991 Posted July 25, 2023 Author Report Posted July 25, 2023 Just now, Nationalist said: Quebec is mugging Canada and everyone outside Quebec knows it. We get along. And everyone knows it. ==== We Canadians have never had a civil war. Different religions, different languages - and yet we've never fought. Imagine. Quote
Nationalist Posted July 25, 2023 Report Posted July 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, August1991 said: We get along. And everyone knows it. ==== We Canadians have never had a civil war. Different religions, different languages - and yet we've never fought. Imagine. Fck Quebec. And fck all those Laurentian politicians who have over and over...fcked over every province while kissing Quebec's derier. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
August1991 Posted July 25, 2023 Author Report Posted July 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Fck Quebec. And fck all those Laurentian politicians who have over and over...fcked over every province while kissing Quebec's derier. Nationalist, In my Canada, you have the right to disagree. Heck, I tend to agree - I get your point. But IMHO, our Canada is a civilised State because it is federal. Quote
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