Army Guy Posted July 9, 2023 Report Posted July 9, 2023 Yes because our military has always been a threat to our nation, it has over and over again mistreated Canadians as a whole, it has made aggressive political moves that under mine our nation and sovereignty...I can understand why you would want to hide under the bed from these "people"... Not sure why Canadians hate them that much... why they would want to see CANADIANS who decided to serve this great country regardless of circumstances "you" and people like you throw at them... what drives this hate, jealousy, just plain blind hate, racism, is it the uniforms that trigger you, did an military guy steal your girl friend... All anyone in the military wants to do is serve the nation, and it's people, and in doing so all they ask for is for you to give them a fighting chance to come home to their families...I know to much to ask....instead for some reason you and others have declared open season on them... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Army Guy said: Yes because our military has always been a threat to our nation, it has over and over again mistreated Canadians as a whole, it has made aggressive political moves that under mine our nation and sovereignty...I can understand why you would want to hide under the bed from these "people"... Not sure why Canadians hate them that much... why they would want to see CANADIANS who decided to serve this great country regardless of circumstances "you" and people like you throw at them... what drives this hate, jealousy, just plain blind hate, racism, is it the uniforms that trigger you, did an military guy steal your girl friend... All anyone in the military wants to do is serve the nation, and it's people, and in doing so all they ask for is for you to give them a fighting chance to come home to their families...I know to much to ask....instead for some reason you and others have declared open season on them... You're taking this unwillingness to fund a fully equipped modern military way to personally given the hate and racism you're reading into it. Like I said, if America invaded us there would be at least 10% of our population cheering them on. Maybe we could just send the US our military funding and let them defend us as they see fit. We know damn well we'll never be allowed to go off on a military adventure on our own any more than we'd be allowed to possess a couple of nukes. Again I'm borrowing a page from the climate inactivists, if we can count on making zero difference in the military scheme of things then wtf is the point? Because it's the right thing to do? Oddly enough that's the argument I make for taking climate action. Edited July 10, 2023 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
myata Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 The "new structure" can be summarized as: 1. Divide and disarm yourself before the dictator scam of the world 2. A great smile, on a lawn picking up daisies under the smiley Sun 3. See what happens. Smart, da tovarisch? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Moonbox Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 13 hours ago, eyeball said: Maybe we could just send the US our military funding and let them defend us as they see fit. We know damn well we'll never be allowed to go off on a military adventure on our own any more than we'd be allowed to possess a couple of nukes. I suspect the US would be happy to see us go on military adventures of our own. The fact that we'd have the capability would please them, and that our interests generally align with theirs. As for nukes, the only reason we'd need/want them would be to protect ourselves from the americans, and the only way they could stop us from building them would be to invade us, so why are we even talking about it? Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
eyeball Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: I suspect the US would be happy to see us go on military adventures of our own. The fact that we'd have the capability would please them, and that our interests generally align with theirs. As for nukes, the only reason we'd need/want them would be to protect ourselves from the americans, and the only way they could stop us from building them would be to invade us, so why are we even talking about it? Because we need better justifications for military spending. I'd far rather see us utilizing economic sanctions against aggressive countries - instead of using funds to buy weaponry use them to mitigate the cost of sanctions to our economy. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Moonbox Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, eyeball said: Because we need better justifications for military spending. I'd far rather see us utilizing economic sanctions against aggressive countries Sanctions are a half-measure and there is a limit to their impact. Read up on Autarky, as an economic/political theory, if you don’t know what it is already, 11 minutes ago, eyeball said: instead of using funds to buy weaponry use them to mitigate the cost of sanctions to our economy. We waste money on far less useful things than defence. If you agree with the idea of sovereign nations having a right/responsibility to defend themselves, it’s no stretch to extend that to our allies and partners and to share it amongst each other. Pretending that we have no reason for defence spending because we have oceans on either side of us is, IMO, silly. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
WestCanMan Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 On 7/8/2023 at 10:58 AM, myata said: Just because psycho said so.. no evidence needed? Lie and more bombastic lie and nothing else. Who attacked Russia? Who crossed her border with arms? Innocent psycho victim in the psycho world. Are you honestly dumb enough to believe that there's no difference between Ukraine and Latvia? Are you honestly too stupid to understand the ramifications of NATO being in Ukraine? Are you honestly so stupid that you don't understand what "aggression" means? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
myata Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Are you honestly too stupid to understand the ramifications of NATO being in Ukraine? NATO in Norway? OK NATO in Turkey? Fine NATO in Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia? Not a problem. NATO in Finland and Sweden? OK. NATO in Ukraine? Nooooooo!!!!! Let's blow up nuclear stations! Living in the psycho world. Edited July 10, 2023 by myata 1 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Army Guy Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 18 hours ago, eyeball said: You're taking this unwillingness to fund a fully equipped modern military way to personally given the hate and racism you're reading into it. Like I said, if America invaded us there would be at least 10% of our population cheering them on. Maybe we could just send the US our military funding and let them defend us as they see fit. We know damn well we'll never be allowed to go off on a military adventure on our own any more than we'd be allowed to possess a couple of nukes. Again I'm borrowing a page from the climate inactivists, if we can count on making zero difference in the military scheme of things then wtf is the point? Because it's the right thing to do? Oddly enough that's the argument I make for taking climate action. Have you read your posts, "you People" is not a term of endearment is it ? I've wasted way to much band width already explain what our military does for the entire nation, yes including you eyeball... and yet you still persist with a huge NO... you've can't or won't explain why, just a firm no... judging by the tone of your posts i would guess it is based on dislike or hate...Tell me i'm wrong, don't worry big guy your not the only one in the room... And yet those that wish to take up the challenge of serving this country, should be made to suffer that much more becasue of your hate or attitude...no new modern equipment/ training means the risk factor of coming home to their families goes up...Why would you stand for that.... No wonder they are having such a hard time attracting new people into the forces, why would anyone want to risk their lives to protect people that don't give a rats ass about them in the first place...The proof is all around us, look at how we treat our veterans still.... As for climate inactivists that would include almost the entire country...from the government right to to each voter...all talking out the side of their mouths, hey i pay my carbon taxes...thats enough...yet many have made no attempt to lower carbon foot prints, like heat pumps, solar energy, wind energy... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
WestCanMan Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 2 hours ago, myata said: NATO in Norway? OK NATO in Turkey? Fine NATO in Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia? Not a problem. NATO in Finland and Sweden? OK. NATO in Ukraine? Nooooooo!!!!! Let's blow up nuclear stations! Living in the psycho world. You clearly don't have a clue about geopolitics. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
myata Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: You clearly don't have a clue about geopolitics. It's not about geo, but psycho. Psycho is as psycho does. Hitler was a violent, mass murderer psycho. And Putin is. It's the act, the behavior defines a psycho not explanations. The fact speaks for itself. No explanations needed or could add anything. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
WestCanMan Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 15 hours ago, myata said: It's not about geo, but psycho. Psycho is as psycho does. Hitler was a violent, mass murderer psycho. And Putin is. It's the act, the behavior defines a psycho not explanations. The fact speaks for itself. No explanations needed or could add anything. Not from your POV, and that's all that matters, right? You feel like Russia should be just peachy with NATO in Ukraine and you're not capable of considering emotions outside of what you're personally experiencing. Do you know what it means to lack empathy? It means that you're a psychopath. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
myata Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: you're not capable of considering emotions Like "considering emotions" of a violent psycho on a murderous rampage? You want that in your backyard too? "Do you know what it means to lack empathy? It means that you're a psychopath." That's a first, congrats! So the police, SWAT stopping, locking for life and at times shooting violent psychos on deadly criminal killing sprees are all "psychopaths"? While psychos themselves, only innocent victims of conspiracies and plots against them, no doubt? You know what the diagnosis is? Please tell me it's deep irony. Edited July 11, 2023 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
WestCanMan Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 40 minutes ago, myata said: Like "considering emotions" of a violent psycho on a murderous rampage? You want that in your backyard too? Like "considering the geopolitical situation of a nation facing a hostile alliance encroaching on their most significant international border." Quote "Do you know what it means to lack empathy? It means that you're a psychopath."That's a first, congrats! So the police, SWAT stopping, locking for life and at times shooting violent psychos on deadly criminal killing sprees are all "psychopaths"? OMG that's just stupid. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
myata Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: encroaching "Encroaching" how? A sovereign nation cannot choose its alliances because it would hurt psycho's feelings? No you can't play with Jack or I'll ... you? In the psycho world. 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: OMG that's just stupid Right. Not feeling empathy for Hitler is so wrong.. in the psycho world. You know how many innocent children Russia has killed in Ukraine in cold blood before asking empathy for rapists, robbers and murderers? Edited July 11, 2023 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
WestCanMan Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 32 minutes ago, myata said: "Encroaching" how? A sovereign nation cannot choose its alliances because it would hurt psycho's feelings? No you can't play with Jack or I'll ... you? In the psycho world. I've told you this 20 times now, but you're too stupid to understand... If Canada signed an alliance with China, NoKo, Iran and Russia that had an Article 5 clause in it the US would take us over in a heartbeat. If you think they wouldn't then you're just naive AF. Quote Right. Not feeling empathy for Hitler is so wrong.. in the psycho world. It has nothing to do with Putin. It has everything to do with Russian people being forced to live like the Germans did between 1945 and 1990. Quote You know how many innocent children Russia has killed in Ukraine in cold blood before asking empathy for rapists, robbers and murderers? Zelenski's the one who created the conditions that led to this war. The whole world saw the Russian soldiers amassing on Ukraine's border and we all know why they were there (aside from those among us who are dumb AF). Zelenski kept poking the bear. F-Zelenski. F-Ukraine. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
myata Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: If Canada Explaining a real, heinous crime with an imaginary dream? In the psycho world. 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: like the Germans did between 1945 and 1990. Like swimming in the oil and gas that they couldn't put to any intelligent use to improve lives of their people instead of screwing up those of others? Try again.. in the alternative reality. 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The whole world saw the Russian soldiers amassing on Ukraine's border and we all know why they were there A gesture of loving peace in the psycho world so only had to embrace the psycho and disarm before his hordes. 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Zelenski kept poking the bear. Churchill just kept provoking Hitler! Hitler an innocent victim of conspiracy. In the psycho world. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
WestCanMan Posted July 12, 2023 Report Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, myata said: Explaining a real, heinous crime with an imaginary dream? In the psycho world. I explained something in simple enough terms for a toddler to understand but it was still over your head. Go figger. Quote Like swimming in the oil and gas that they couldn't put to any intelligent use to improve lives of their people instead of screwing up those of others? Try again.. in the alternative reality. It would be bad enough if you were just sniffing glue, but I'm pretty sure that you're smoking it. Quote A gesture of loving peace in the psycho world so only had to embrace the psycho and disarm before his hordes. No, it was a gesture to show how serious it was for Ukraine to threaten Russia with putting NATO on her doorstep. Quote Churchill just kept provoking Hitler! Hitler an innocent victim of conspiracy. In the psycho world. No, Hitler wasn't provoked by Churchill, and FYI Churchill wasn't even the PM when WWII started, dummy. Zelenski provoked Russia into a war and TBH Biden and Obama were a big part of that. I know that history isn't your strong suit and you don't put any stock in it, but Biden has been an outspoken advocate for NATO in Ukraine since the beginning of Obama's presidency. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
myata Posted July 12, 2023 Report Posted July 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: simple enough terms for a toddler to understand Indeed. A crime is a crime that has to be stopped if in progress and criminal brought to justice. A toddler would get that. You (and a psycho) don't. 36 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: it was a gesture to show how serious it was Has someone attacked or even threatened to attack Russia? Crossed her borders with arms even once? No. Needless explanations and worthless excuses in the psycho world. 38 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: No, Hitler wasn't No but yes, or yes but no, in the psycho world. But in this reality, Hitler invaded Poland and Putin invaded Ukraine. Putin is Hitler today, no escaping the logic and the facts. In the normal human world. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
WestCanMan Posted July 12, 2023 Report Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, myata said: Indeed. A crime is a crime that has to be stopped if in progress and criminal brought to justice. A toddler would get that. You (and a psycho) don't. I wouldn't call it "a crime" for Zelenski to bring NATO to Ukraine, it's an act of war, but again, toddlers can understand things that you can't so I'm wasting my time talking to you. Quote Has someone attacked or even threatened to attack Russia? Crossed her borders with arms even once? No. Needless explanations and worthless excuses in the psycho world. The existence of NATO along Russia's western border would be enough. No shots would even need to be fired for Russians to end up living in a state of perpetual fear for generations. A psychopath like you doesn't understand or care what other people go through any more than a snake feels sorry for a 7-legged spider. All of this is over your head. Quote No but yes, or yes but no, in the psycho world. But in this reality, Hitler invaded Poland and Putin invaded Ukraine. Putin is Hitler today, no escaping the logic and the facts. In the normal human world. In this reality, Hitler attacked Poland unprovoked. You got one right. In this reality, Ukraine threatened to put NATO on Russia's border and they got fair warning many, many times that Russia would not put allow that to happen. Russia was sufficiently provoked that they had to attack Ukraine. I know that you're pre-programmed to ignore inconvenient facts but that's what's up. So now, if NATO comes to "Ukraine" to chill with the Nazis, there will be a buffer of "ex-Ukraine" for them to cross before they get to Russia 's pre-2021 border. That area will probably be the target of a lot of big, nasty bombs that make tanks disappear. Edited July 12, 2023 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
myata Posted July 12, 2023 Report Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, WestCanMan said: bring NATO to Ukraine, it's an act of war, Bringing NATO to Norway in 1949 was an "act of war"? Police against a brutal psycho on a murderous rampage, a threat to psycho's innocent security? Beside your deep understanding of psycho mentality and as deep a hatred for freedom and democracy you don't seem to have much to contribute here. Edited July 12, 2023 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted July 12, 2023 Report Posted July 12, 2023 10 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Hitler attacked Poland unprovoked. Wrong. You can't get anything right here. Poland had a security pact with France and Britain. Putting the defense pact next to innocent Hitler's Germany borders was an unnecessary provocation as Germany many times repeated. Hitler was misunderstood and provoked. WWII could have been avoided with a better understanding of Hitler. In the psycho world. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
WestCanMan Posted July 12, 2023 Report Posted July 12, 2023 2 hours ago, myata said: Bringing NATO to Norway in 1949 was an "act of war"? Police against a brutal psycho on a murderous rampage, a threat to psycho's innocent security? Beside your deep understanding of psycho mentality and as deep a hatred for freedom and democracy you don't seem to have much to contribute here. Bringing NATO to Peru would not be a big deal for Russia, do you understand that much? Same thing if they brought NATO into Djibouti. Do you understand the difference between NATO in Djibouti and Ukraine myata? Look at a map, stupid. Look how far away Moscow is from Ukraine, along a main highway no less... Do you know who JFK is myata? Do you know where Cuba is in relation to Washington DC? Do you know how many highways there are between Cuba and Washington DC dummy? Hint: you probably shouldn't answer that.... The US flirted with WWIII when Cuba got some missile silos, and the US had attacked Cuba just a year earlier. I probably can't explain how hard it would be to drive tanks from Cuba to DC to you, or how fast cruise missiles could hit Moscow from eastern Ukraine, but just know this: there's a war between Russia and Ukraine now and you don't understand the most basic aspects of it. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
myata Posted July 12, 2023 Report Posted July 12, 2023 Shouting it doesn't make it any more convincing. Nobody threatened Russia. "NATO" was only a pretext for Russia's brutal war in exactly the same way that Hitler made pretexts for his. Russia has none, zero right of veto on independent European nation choices. Russia's invasion is a criminal aggression in a blatant violation of international law and the Charter of the United Nations. Russia is accused of mass war crimes and crimes against humanity, including forced deportation of civilian population and children, for which international warrant has been issued for Putin and his accomplices. There can be no explanations or trivializing of Putin's and Russia's crimes. Putin is a modern incarnation of Hitler. His brutal aggression has to be defeated decisively and utterly or it'll become the blueprint for the hosts of future tyrants and dictators. 1 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
August1991 Posted July 22, 2023 Author Report Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) On 7/12/2023 at 8:55 AM, myata said: Wrong. You can't get anything right here. Poland had a security pact with France and Britain. Putting the defense pact next to innocent Hitler's Germany borders.... I read quickly through this thread. Myata, I'll choose your post as a punching bag for response. The current situation is not the 1930s. If anything, it is 1910. ===== 1. Putin is not another Hitler/Napoleon. 2. Putin has no desire to occupy Kiev, invade Poland. 3. Unlike the Cold War, this is NOT an existential war. 4. I understand what Putin is doing - and it makes sense. ==== Sadly, tragically, all of this death destruction could have been avoided. Churchill (or Macmillan) famously said that jaw, jaw is better than war, war. Edited July 22, 2023 by August1991 1 Quote
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