Grandfather Of Teen Who Was Killed While Breaking Into Home Says It Was “Unfair”

[reason10]

Another pathetic story of a negligent parent/grand parent who tries to blame the victim for defending himself/herself.

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Grandfather Of Teen Who Was Killed While Breaking Into Home Says It Was “Unfair”

Jacob Redfearn, 17, joined forces with fellow suspects 19-year-old Maxwell Cook and 16-year-old Jake Woodruff to break into an Oklahoma home. Little did the would-be criminals know, but the homeowner kept the property amply defended against crooks who wanted to steal what didn’t belong to them.When the burglary was underway, the homeowner’s son used one of the guns on the property, an AR-15 assault rifle, to mow down the suspects, killing Redfearn and the other two boys.

Now, Leroy Schumacher, the grandfather of Redfearn, believes that the deaths were not necessary.

The grandfather said: “What these three boys did was stupid. They knew they could be punished for it, but they did not deserve to die.”

Schumacher never thought his grandson would get in trouble with the law. But when the underage teen teamed up with the other two teenagers, they hatched a half-baked plan to rob a house that was heavily armed and defended by the home owner’s Constitutional right to bear arms in self-defense.

However, Schumacher believes that the homeowner’s son used too much force, given that the three teen boys were armed with handheld weapons and not firearms.

“Brass knuckles against an AR-15, come on, who was afraid for their life,” the grandfather said.

What if that homeowner didn't have any firearms at all, and was beaten to death by those brass knuckles?

After the three teens were shot dead, police went on the hunt for the getaway driver. They caught up with 21-year-old Elizabeth Rodriguez very quickly.

Schumacher believes that Rodriguez planned the heist, and she confessed to the police that she did plan it.

Deputies believe the homeowner’s son acted in self-defense since the shooting happened on their property while the three teens were breaking and entering.

“There’s got to be a limit to that law. I mean, he shot all three of them; there was no need for that,” Schumacher said.

For any future retards out there who may be thinking that they are ENTITLED to the property of those who WORK for a living, remember this: You could be shot and killed. And you would deserve it.

Don't break into homes. Get a job. EARN your money.

Oh, and don't cut yourself and then jump into shark infested waters.  Don't dive in a lake near an alligator next.

The way I see it, the homeowner improved the gene pool by taking out the trash.

 

[Guest]

Yeah, I don't have a problem with that.

Schumacher supports the second amendment, but he doesn’t believe that all intruders should be shot to death.

Nobody says they should be.  Just that they can be.

[herbie]

But zis is ze final solution and reason loves to normalize it.

[Michael Hardner]

42 minutes ago, herbie said:

But zis is ze final solution and reason loves to normalize it.

Step on his lawn and find out....

[Moonlight Graham]

There should be a law that says you have a license to murder if someone breaks into your residence uninvited.

Also, if you're a convicted pedophile the parents get 5 minutes alone with you to do anything they want, including murder.

[ironstone]

19 hours ago, herbie said:

But zis is ze final solution and reason loves to normalize it.

Try to imagine how those who lived at the home must have felt when not one, but three criminals are in the personal space of the owner. Yes of course those on the left will immediately jump to the defense of the criminals. How is the homeowner supposed to react? The fact that at least one of them had brass knuckles is a clear indication that they came prepared to use violence against the occupants.

It's awful that three young people are now dead but let's remember that the homeowner is the victim here.

[Michael Hardner]

17 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

There should be a law that says you have a license to murder if someone breaks into your residence uninvited.

Also, if you're a convicted pedophile the parents get 5 minutes alone with you to do anything they want, including murder.

Let's just take laws off the books and have vigilante justice then right ?  Why do my taxes pay to investigate who YOU pissed off enough to murder your family ?

Or maybe we could plan our justice system without thinking about Dirty Harry movies....

[Moonlight Graham]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Let's just take laws off the books and have vigilante justice then right ?  Why do my taxes pay to investigate who YOU pissed off enough to murder your family ?

Or maybe we could plan our justice system without thinking about Dirty Harry movies....

No, just my specific laws proposed, let's not go crazy.

Maybe we can also cut off the dinky-doo's of pedophiles and rapists too, bring them to the taxidermist and hang them on a wall in city hall.  We could give the perps breast implants too and use plastic surgery to turn the rest of their male genitals into cooters with lips and all, to humiliate them further.  That would be fun.

[herbie]

6 hours ago, ironstone said:

Try to imagine

Try to imagine being someone who endlessly glories over extrajudicial killings by private citizens for non-violent offences at every opportunity. Someone who really really wants the opportunity to kill someone trying to take his tv rather than stop or incapacitate them, who believes that they themselves are the rule of law.

 

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

1. let's not go crazy.

2. Maybe we can also cut off the dinky-doo's of pedophiles and rapists too, bring them to the taxidermist and hang them on a wall in city hall. 

3. We could give the perps breast implants too and use plastic surgery to turn the rest of their male genitals into cooters with lips and all, to humiliate them further.  That would be fun.

1. Why not ?  You want to allow parents to murder pedophiles so why are you getting all proper all of a sudden ?
2. Why not burn and torture them in public for life ?  Why should our justice system not be entertainment for you ?
3. Keep going .... cut off the ears and fingers and put it on live TV .... what else would make you happy - post here.

[Moonlight Graham]

28 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Why not ?  You want to allow parents to murder pedophiles so why are you getting all proper all of a sudden ?
2. Why not burn and torture them in public for life ?  Why should our justice system not be entertainment for you ?
3. Keep going .... cut off the ears and fingers and put it on live TV .... what else would make you happy - post here.

1. If you caught a man fiddling with your child would you beat the life out of them or politely ask them to stop and call 911?  Would you blame a man for murdering a pedophile who fiddled with their child?  Does the pedophile deserve what they'd get?

2. Whoa let's not get crazy here.

3.  This just isn't creative or entertaining enough.  We could shove a large carrot up their bum and make them walk pantless down the street they live on.

[Moonlight Graham]

 

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

1. If you caught a man fiddling with your child would you beat the life out of them or politely ask them to stop and call 911?  

2. Whoa let's not get crazy here.

3.  This just isn't creative or entertaining enough.  We could shove a large carrot up their bum and make them walk pantless down the street they live on.

1. Do you think that a justice system really can achieve fairness by allowing victims to inflict violence on the convicted?

2. Why not? What's stopping you now?

3. You should be in charge of everything.  The streets would be full of pantless criminals btt stuffed with carrots.  What a glorious vision of the future.

 

[Army Guy]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Do you think that a justice system really can achieve fairness by allowing victims to inflict violence on the convicted?

2. Why not? What's stopping you now?

3. You should be in charge of everything.  The streets would be full of pantless criminals btt stuffed with carrots.  What a glorious vision of the future.

 

Is that what this is about fairness, give me a break, there is nothing fair about the justice system, a person can decide to take a life or destroy a life through rape, and do 15 years or less, in a federal prison, and thats fair, and the person you care about is gone forever, or is so damaged their life's will never be the same...thats fair...I doubt you would feel the same if it happens to you or your family...I don't agree with having the law or justice allowing you to harm someone, as part of justice being handing out...But the justice system is never fair... 

God knows what i would do if anyone hurt my family, or grand kids, it would be a close call not to let emotion dictate what happens next. And i'm sure it would not end well, for anyone. 

 

[Army Guy]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

Try to imagine being someone who endlessly glories over extrajudicial killings by private citizens for non-violent offences at every opportunity. Someone who really really wants the opportunity to kill someone trying to take his tv rather than stop or incapacitate them, who believes that they themselves are the rule of law.

 

But in the case in the first post 3 men broke into another house, a scared teenager was home and decided to defend his home, shot and killed all 3 of the bad guys... Good on him, he did not know their intentions, or how was he going to react...to some they say he was defending material goods, once again did they identify that to the shooter, we are only going to steal the tv and stuff go back to bed and everything will be good.. 

You assume they were there to rob the place, They the robbers are not the victims here...that scared shi*less teenager is the only victim here...it is him that is going to pay for the rest of his life over taken those life's, life's that the robbers force him to take...it was not over a TV or what ever, it was about him defending his life... Now the robbers knew the risks and were willing to die over a tv and some material things. they took the risk and in this case paid with their lives... 

This happened in the states...and very rarely happens in Canada, becasue you'd be arrested on the spot by police locked up until a court of law finds you guilty or not guilty...of murder...that takes years...your life as you know will be changed forever...

[Moonlight Graham]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Do you think that a justice system really can achieve fairness by allowing victims to inflict violence on the convicted?

2. Why not? What's stopping you now?

3. You should be in charge of everything.  The streets would be full of pantless criminals btt stuffed with carrots.  What a glorious vision of the future.

 

1.  It could achieve justice.

2.  Laws.

3.  This is my vision.  But the cruel and unusual punishment thing stops my fetish.

[herbie]

I object to the obvious glorification of vigilanteism in the guy's endless posts. And his obvious response will be that other people are the anarchists.

[ironstone]

On 2/10/2023 at 4:47 PM, herbie said:

Try to imagine being someone who endlessly glories over extrajudicial killings by private citizens for non-violent offences at every opportunity. Someone who really really wants the opportunity to kill someone trying to take his tv rather than stop or incapacitate them, who believes that they themselves are the rule of law.

 

You have placed all the blame on the homeowner. And you have decided that this homeowner was just itching to kill someone for no reason at all. You have also decided that the robbers had no intention to commit violence after they broke into the home, despite the brass knuckles.

Joe Biden recently made the same kind of comment in that he suggested police should only ever shoot to incapacitate and never to kill. Shoot them in the leg or the hand right? That would be some superb marksmanship.

 

[herbie]

Hmm... you can't even argue to what I posted. You have to argue against things not stated.

And even argue the difficulty of not shooting to kill. OMG we know the problem's not like TV where they shout "Halt! FBI!" from 2 blocks away and then run 3 foot chases an episode until they tackle the perp, it's the GED toting minimally trained fat 'pig' that just blasts away knowing full well the Blue Wall will stand up to justify things. Like even try to deny that when you've seen/heard thousands of incidents of exactly that in your lifetime. Be like denying how putting on a uniform brings out the ass-hole in some people.

[reason10]

On 2/9/2023 at 3:23 PM, herbie said:

But zis is ze final solution and reason loves to normalize it.

Innocent people die every day from muggings. But you don't have a problem with that. You only have a problem if the criminal is waxed

The ORIGINAL "Final Solution" came from YOUR left wing Woke side of the aisle and this goose stepper who was Hillary's idol.

[Deluge]

On 2/9/2023 at 1:23 PM, herbie said:

But zis is ze final solution and reason loves to normalize it.

It's a natural response because lefties love to normalize crime.

Edited February 17, 2023 by Deluge

[Deluge]

On 2/9/2023 at 3:33 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

There should be a law that says you have a license to murder if someone breaks into your residence uninvited.

Also, if you're a convicted pedophile the parents get 5 minutes alone with you to do anything they want, including murder.

Your wording is wrong. Murder is the crime of unlawfully killing a person, especially with malice. Citizens defending their homes are not murderers. 

I love the idea of parents having 5 minutes with the pedophile, though. 

[reason10]

On 2/10/2023 at 4:47 PM, herbie said:

Try to imagine being someone who endlessly glories over extrajudicial killings by private citizens for non-violent offences at every opportunity. Someone who really really wants the opportunity to kill someone trying to take his tv rather than stop or incapacitate them, who believes that they themselves are the rule of law.

 

A home invasion is a violent offense. The THREAT of violence IS the offense. In the law it's called BREAKING AND ENTERING.

And a victim of a home invasion is not going to just sit there and assume it's an underprivileged kid who needs money to pay his way through college.

If this animal had obeyed the law, GOT A FCKING JOB and bought his own stuff, he would be alive. For the TERROR he brought to his innocent victims, he deserved what he got.

The homeowner deserves a medal for taking out the trash. That homeowner has obviously saved countless lives.

[reason10]

On 2/10/2023 at 5:07 PM, Michael Hardner said:

1. Why not ?  You want to allow parents to murder pedophiles so why are you getting all proper all of a sudden ?
2. Why not burn and torture them in public for life ?  Why should our justice system not be entertainment for you ?
3. Keep going .... cut off the ears and fingers and put it on live TV .... what else would make you happy - post here.

Actually ANY kind of prison sentence for a pedophile is a death sentence. Every other day there is a story in the news about child rapists who are killed in prison, usually in their first few days there.

[reason10]

On 2/12/2023 at 4:19 PM, herbie said:

Hmm... you can't even argue to what I posted. You have to argue against things not stated.

And even argue the difficulty of not shooting to kill. OMG we know the problem's not like TV where they shout "Halt! FBI!" from 2 blocks away and then run 3 foot chases an episode until they tackle the perp, it's the GED toting minimally trained fat 'pig' that just blasts away knowing full well the Blue Wall will stand up to justify things. Like even try to deny that when you've seen/heard thousands of incidents of exactly that in your lifetime. Be like denying how putting on a uniform brings out the ass-hole in some people.

I'll wait while you present PROOF of the academic credentials of the homeowner who LEGALLY defended his property with deadly force. Also, you can provide us doctors' observations of the alleged "obesity" of the man who took out the trash. 

What you are  perhaps too choked up to comment on is the fact that maybe a few THOUSAND home invaders in that region might get the idea NOT to break into a home and risk getting shot to death, thus SAVING THOUSAND OF HOME OWNERS FROM BREAKING AND ENTERING.

Seems like every time crime is either prevented or punished, you have a problem.