Joe Biden vs Justin Trudeau

[August1991]

In the US, I reckon that Biden is more electable.

In this new US voting system where parties collect ballots, with suspicious older voters, a vote for someone like Paul Martin is doable.

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In Canada, it would be hard/impossible to have votes for someone like Paul Martin on election day.

Edited December 17, 2022 by August1991

[August1991]

Kryptonite.

The PQ sort of imagined this in 1980. In fact, Parizeau did this in 1995.

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The kryptonite is to get "people to vote".

 

[August1991]

In Canada, in most municipal elections, about 20% people vote.

Imagine if it's possible to submit a vote - online - with a window of several weeks. 

[herbie]

Imagine if democracy devolved into people too lazy to get off their ass making all the decisions.
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[August1991]

Activist municipal parties around America are doing this now.

In Canada, municipal elections are under provincial law. True, complicated.

But in Canada, our provincial/federal ballots are simple. It takes about 5 seconds to vote., we select one candidate.

 

 

[athos]

 

We must not lose sight of the fact that Canada is a British/American colony where the de jure British monarch is the Canadian head of state, and the de facto it is president of the USA. The British have been training so called Canadians for generations not to be free citizens, but a obedient subjects of her Majesty without developed own cultural and national identity.

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe

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[August1991]

In Quebec, there was a recent by-election:

https://www.electionsquebec.qc.ca/resultats-et-statistiques/resultats-election-partielle-provinciale-en-direct/

About 30% of registered voters put one X on paper and put the paper in a box.

The voters could do this on several days.

In Canada, the voter registry list is based on tax and census, driver's license and health card. In Quebec, our health card and hydro bill ultimately decides voting status.

I receive a card in the mail.

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QS won by about 2000 votes. Imagine how easy (cheap) it would be to win with a well-organised group.  

 

Edited March 18, 2023 by August1991

[August1991]

In Canada, about 35% of federal tax-filers pay no tax at all.

For these people, all discussions of taxes are meaningless.

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I was surprised to see that the CAQ used a tax-cut campaign in a recent by-election.

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, August1991 said:

 

For these people, all discussions of taxes are meaningless.

Not so.  The revenue base for Canada is of concern to all of the public.

[Moonlight Graham]

Biden and Trudeau work for the same brand.

[Nationalist]

On 12/19/2022 at 6:06 PM, herbie said:

Imagine if democracy devolved into people too lazy to get off their ass making all the decisions.
.

Groovy. I'll just note you as being against mail in ballots

[Nationalist]

Pixie-Dust Vs. Brandon.

Battle of the Tweenkies. Both bought and paid for by your friends and mine...

The CCP.

[August1991]

On 3/18/2023 at 7:00 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Not so.  The revenue base for Canada is of concern to all of the public.

Michael,

Look at the numbers - about 35% of Canadian federal tax filers pay no tax. (For these people, any discussion of taxes is meaningless. Harper wants to cut taxes? They're not listening.)

To get their attention, Harper cut the GST to 5%.

Legaullt sent cheques to everyone.

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But to return to my OP.

In Canada, we usually vote by putting a single X beside a name - we choose our local representative. And we do this on one day. Local people check voters as they do all this  

The American system of zillions of names on a ballot - this is not democracy.

But the current American system of zillions of names, ballots submitted whenever... 

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The federal Liberals could elect Trudeau in a rural Albertan riding with such a system.

 

  

Edited March 22, 2023 by August1991

[Michael Hardner]

5 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Michael,

Look at the numbers - about 35% of Canadian federal tax filers pay no tax. (For these people, any discussion of taxes is meaningless. Harper wants to cut taxes? They're not listening.)

To get their attention, Harper cut the GST to 5%.

Legaullt sent cheques to everyone.

Yes, I read your post and responded.  You just repeated your post.

[August1991]

On 3/18/2023 at 7:22 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

Biden and Trudeau work for the same brand.

Disagree. Strongly disagree.

Biden is a very ambitious guy who - by chance - got to the top of the pole.

(Biden? Look at his wife. She's the proverbial Pearson wife behind the throne.)

Trudeau Jnr? What is the phrase of Napoleon - power thrust on them?

  

[August1991]

On 3/18/2023 at 7:00 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Not so.  The revenue base for Canada is of concern to all of the public.

Uh? Sure, we all care about society [/sarcasm].

Michael, you and I have a different view of how society works

If I pay no tax - what do I care if the government wants to build a new Metro. Do it!

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In Canada, about 35% of voters pay no tax.

And yet, Canada is civilised.

[Michael Hardner]

6 minutes ago, August1991 said:

 

In Canada, about 35% of voters pay no tax.

And yet, Canada is civilised.

If 99% of Canadians live in abject poverty, one bad event from homelessness is that a sign that they're freeloaders?

The wealth gap is real, my friend, and even conservatives know that.

[August1991]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

If 99% of Canadians live in abject poverty, one bad event from homelessness is that a sign that they're freeloaders?

The wealth gap is real, my friend, and even conservatives know that.

Canadians living in abject poverty? Gimme a break.

The wealth/income gap is real? Also, gimme a break. Never in history have so many people lived so well.

We live in a world of several billion. People. Individuals. Each doing whatever.

[August1991]

I recently read the text of Theodore Roosevelt in 1910 in Paris, just before the start of the Great War.

The so-called "Man in the Arena" speech.

This was the thinking of the elite before the end of civilisation.

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It has taken us a century to go back to what we were.

Edited April 28, 2023 by August1991

[Michael Hardner]

16 minutes ago, August1991 said:

1. Canadians living in abject poverty? Gimme a break.

2. The wealth/income gap is real? Also, gimme a break. Never in history have so many people lived so well.

 

1. 2. Open your eyes
 

[August1991]

11 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. 2. Open your eyes
 

I do.

We Canadians live in a civilised society.

Like Americans, we Canadians allow people to move in.

It rises property values.

 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, August1991 said:

 

Like Americans, we Canadians allow people to move in.

It rises property values.

 

They buy places that sit empty.  People sleep on the sidewalk outside.

[August1991]

On 4/27/2023 at 10:41 PM, Michael Hardner said:

They buy places that sit empty.  People sleep on the sidewalk outside.

True. Ordinary people in any city, we all can see this.

Yet our political elite - the Bidens and Trudeau fils of this world, the various civil servants and bureaucrats - say otherwise.

As in the 1910s, when the European elite said the same before August 1914.

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"This will be a short war." 

[August1991]

Let me be plain to older Leftists/Progressives:

The people sleeping on the sidewalks or in your metro stations - they are not refugees.

They are disorganised deadbeats.

Like the Haitian government, giving them money perpetuates the bad ethics.

[August1991]

On 4/27/2023 at 10:41 PM, Michael Hardner said:

They buy places...

Foreigners buy places in Canada and America.

Why? Because their property rights are respected.