August1991 Posted December 17, 2022 Report Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) In the US, I reckon that Biden is more electable. In this new US voting system where parties collect ballots, with suspicious older voters, a vote for someone like Paul Martin is doable. ===== In Canada, it would be hard/impossible to have votes for someone like Paul Martin on election day. Edited December 17, 2022 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted December 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2022 Kryptonite. The PQ sort of imagined this in 1980. In fact, Parizeau did this in 1995. ====== The kryptonite is to get "people to vote". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted December 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2022 In Canada, in most municipal elections, about 20% people vote. Imagine if it's possible to submit a vote - online - with a window of several weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 Imagine if democracy devolved into people too lazy to get off their ass making all the decisions. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted December 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 Activist municipal parties around America are doing this now. In Canada, municipal elections are under provincial law. True, complicated. But in Canada, our provincial/federal ballots are simple. It takes about 5 seconds to vote., we select one candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athos Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 We must not lose sight of the fact that Canada is a British/American colony where the de jure British monarch is the Canadian head of state, and the de facto it is president of the USA. The British have been training so called Canadians for generations not to be free citizens, but a obedient subjects of her Majesty without developed own cultural and national identity. “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 (edited) 4 minutes ago, athos said: We must not lose sight of the fact that Canada is a British/American colony where the de jure British monarch is the Canadian head of state, and the de facto it is president of the USA. The British have been training so called Canadians for generations not to be free citizens, but a obedient subjects of her Majesty without developed own cultural and national identity. “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe 😀 says a communist from Siberia. Did your boss get the arrest warrant, yet? Putin, I mean, the other pig from Wagner, will not get a warrant, something else will be coming for him, in my estimation. This is you, right, at 1:50 AM in the morning, bolshevik? Edited March 17 by Contrarian edit design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 18 Author Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) In Quebec, there was a recent by-election: https://www.electionsquebec.qc.ca/resultats-et-statistiques/resultats-election-partielle-provinciale-en-direct/ About 30% of registered voters put one X on paper and put the paper in a box. The voters could do this on several days. In Canada, the voter registry list is based on tax and census, driver's license and health card. In Quebec, our health card and hydro bill ultimately decides voting status. I receive a card in the mail. === QS won by about 2000 votes. Imagine how easy (cheap) it would be to win with a well-organised group. Edited March 18 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 18 Author Report Share Posted March 18 In Canada, about 35% of federal tax-filers pay no tax at all. For these people, all discussions of taxes are meaningless. ==== I was surprised to see that the CAQ used a tax-cut campaign in a recent by-election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 4 hours ago, August1991 said: For these people, all discussions of taxes are meaningless. Not so. The revenue base for Canada is of concern to all of the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Biden and Trudeau work for the same brand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 On 12/19/2022 at 6:06 PM, herbie said: Imagine if democracy devolved into people too lazy to get off their ass making all the decisions. . Groovy. I'll just note you as being against mail in ballots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 Pixie-Dust Vs. Brandon. Battle of the Tweenkies. Both bought and paid for by your friends and mine... The CCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 22 Author Report Share Posted March 22 (edited) On 3/18/2023 at 7:00 AM, Michael Hardner said: Not so. The revenue base for Canada is of concern to all of the public. Michael, Look at the numbers - about 35% of Canadian federal tax filers pay no tax. (For these people, any discussion of taxes is meaningless. Harper wants to cut taxes? They're not listening.) To get their attention, Harper cut the GST to 5%. Legaullt sent cheques to everyone. ====== But to return to my OP. In Canada, we usually vote by putting a single X beside a name - we choose our local representative. And we do this on one day. Local people check voters as they do all this The American system of zillions of names on a ballot - this is not democracy. But the current American system of zillions of names, ballots submitted whenever... ==== The federal Liberals could elect Trudeau in a rural Albertan riding with such a system. Edited March 22 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 5 minutes ago, August1991 said: Michael, Look at the numbers - about 35% of Canadian federal tax filers pay no tax. (For these people, any discussion of taxes is meaningless. Harper wants to cut taxes? They're not listening.) To get their attention, Harper cut the GST to 5%. Legaullt sent cheques to everyone. Yes, I read your post and responded. You just repeated your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 22 Author Report Share Posted March 22 On 3/18/2023 at 7:22 PM, Moonlight Graham said: Biden and Trudeau work for the same brand. Disagree. Strongly disagree. Biden is a very ambitious guy who - by chance - got to the top of the pole. (Biden? Look at his wife. She's the proverbial Pearson wife behind the throne.) Trudeau Jnr? What is the phrase of Napoleon - power thrust on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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