Russian Army collapsing - the unsurprising failure of a police-state

[Aristides]

21 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

They are boots on the ground.!

So? They are not NATO troops.

Edited October 11, 2022 by Aristides

[BeaverFever]

36 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

They are boots on the ground.!

Your whole fake point is that NATO governments are secretly sending their troops there, no?  A volunteer who goes there on his own dime and of his own choice is not “NATO boots on the ground.”

[Nationalist]

50 minutes ago, Aristides said:

 

Those troops were going to Poland.

Ya right...those prices have all lied so much I don't believe a word they say anymore.

[Nationalist]

44 minutes ago, Aristides said:

So? They are not NATO troops.

Gee...I wonder who's paying them?

[Nationalist]

29 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Your whole fake point is that NATO governments are secretly sending their troops there, no?  A volunteer who goes there on his own dime and of his own choice is not “NATO boots on the ground.”

On his own dime.

Can you be any more naive?

[BeaverFever]

50 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

On his own dime.

Can you be any more naive?

Another conspiracy theory?  Just because you can’t afford a plane ticket anywhere don’t assume others can’t. 

[sharkman]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Pfffft.  Civilian casualties scoreboard as of October 10

4 Russians

15,592 Ukrainians

See how that works?

They’ve been killing Ukrainians and Russian Ukrainians since before 2014.  Get an accurate count and I’ll still say it’s still hypocritical to say one side is okay to kill and condemn the other side.

Meanwhile, the poor SOB that drove he truck that exploded on the bridge.  Seems like he was unwitting.  Lovely people, those Nazis.

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Ya right...those prices have all lied so much I don't believe a word they say anymore.

Lying? Even the Russians are admitting they are getting their asses kicked.

This is Vlad's new general.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/who-is-sergei-surovikin-meet-putins-new-top-general-ukraine

 

Quite the prize.

 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, sharkman said:

They’ve been killing Ukrainians and Russian Ukrainians since before 2014.  Get an accurate count and I’ll still say it’s still hypocritical to say one side is okay to kill and condemn the other side.

Meanwhile, the poor SOB that drove he truck that exploded on the bridge.  Seems like he was unwitting.  Lovely people, those Nazis.

The Ukrainians weren’t deliberately targeting civilians like your precious Russians are. They have been fighting a civil war against Russian backed terrorists who shot down an airliner full of civilians if you’ll recall. And many of those separatist terrorists were regular Russian army soldiers and special forces with insignia removed.  
 

You can’t compare the 4 Russians who died whole vacationing in an illegally annexed foreign war zone with the tens of thousands of Ukrainian civilians deliberately killed in their homes. 

[Moonbox]

8 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Boy are you ever full o' shit.

But tell ya what...find anywhere that I threw any support for him.

The amount of energy you've spent denouncing everyone BUT Putin is ample evidence of your support.  Of course you're too chicken-shit to actually say it, especially considering how many people the dude's murdered, but it's clear as day who you're rooting for.  

8 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I don't happen to like the notion of thermonuclear war. Is that beyond your comprehension?

If this was actually what you were worried about, you'd have spoken out loudly against Putin when he first brought up the nuclear question, but you didn't. You used your pretzel-logic and somehow decided that it was the people he threatened with nuclear strikes who were bizarrely somehow the ones escalating the danger.  This is a common theme for you here.  Just like Putin wasn't responsible for invading Ukraine (it was the Ukrainians fault for getting invaded- duh), now it's also their fault and NATO's fault that Putin is brandishing nukes.

The cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.  With Putin's army collapsing and his regime looking like a lame-duck, the only card they have left to play now is to make nuclear threats, and like the useful lickspittle you are, you'll shout and amplify that stupidity as far as you can.  

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, Aristides said:

Lying? Even the Russians are admitting they are getting their asses kicked.

This is Vlad's new general.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/who-is-sergei-surovikin-meet-putins-new-top-general-ukraine

 

Quite the prize.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-open-putin-meeting-biden-g20-lavrov-says-2022-10-11/

Ya ... kicked...

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, Moonbox said:

The amount of energy you've spent denouncing everyone BUT Putin is ample evidence of your support.  Of course you're too chicken-shit to actually say it, especially considering how many people the dude's murdered, but it's clear as day who you're rooting for.  

If this was actually what you were worried about, you'd have spoken out loudly against Putin when he first brought up the nuclear question, but you didn't. You used your pretzel-logic and somehow decided that it was the people he threatened with nuclear strikes who were bizarrely somehow the ones escalating the danger.  This is a common theme for you here.  Just like Putin wasn't responsible for invading Ukraine (it was the Ukrainians fault for getting invaded- duh), now it's also their fault and NATO's fault that Putin is brandishing nukes.

The cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.  With Putin's army collapsing and his regime looking like a lame-duck, the only card they have left to play now is to make nuclear threats, and like the useful lickspittle you are, you'll shout and amplify that stupidity as far as you can.  

What a dunce.

It's ideologues like you who will precipitate global destruction. 

Do you even know that in the last few days, Russia has knocked out most of the Ukrainian electrical grid and fresh water supply? On top of that, most of the anti missile sites have been blown up.

In the meantime, that little shit Zelinsky is begging the US for replacement anti missile batteries. Yet the old men and kids that makes up what's left of the Ukrainian military, have no idea how to operate them.

Support throughout Europe for this crap, is disappearing and its gonna get worse. In Czech they're giving blankets to students to keep warm.

And all this for what? A reject and failed "nation" that nobody in NATO wants.

Edited October 12, 2022 by Nationalist

[Boges]

56 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-open-putin-meeting-biden-g20-lavrov-says-2022-10-11/

Ya ... kicked...

From this article. 

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His emphasis on Russia's receptiveness to talks came after a series of stinging defeats since the start of September that have swung the momentum of the conflict in favour of Ukraine.

Lavrov said officials, including White House national security spokesman John Kirby, had said the United States was open to talks but that Russia had refused.

 

Russia is desperate. 

[Boges]

31 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

What a dunce.

It's ideologues like you who will precipitate global destruction. 

Do you even know that in the last few days, Russia has knocked out most of the Ukrainian electrical grid and fresh water supply? On top of that, most of the anti missile sites have been blown up.

In the meantime, that little shit Zelinsky is begging the US for replacement anti missile batteries. Yet the old men and kids that makes up what's left of the Ukrainian military, have no idea how to operate them.

Support throughout Europe for this crap, is disappearing and its gonna get worse. In Czech they're giving blankets to students to keep warm.

Tell me again how you don't support the Russian cause? 

You're rooting for Russia to attack civilian targets. 

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And all this for what? A reject and failed "nation" that nobody in NATO wants.

All NATO nations are resolute on supporting Ukraine. So you're full of Shit. 

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, Boges said:

From this article. 

Russia is desperate. 

I hope so. I want an end to this folly.

Do you?

[Nationalist]

7 minutes ago, Boges said:

Tell me again how you don't support the Russian cause? 

You're rooting for Russia to attack civilian targets. 

All NATO nations are resolute on supporting Ukraine. So you're full of Shit. 

 

Ya...right...

[Boges]

8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I hope so. I want an end to this folly.

Do you?

It depends on the terms. You don't reward Putin for annexing parts of Ukraine. 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

What a dunce.

It's ideologues like you who will precipitate global destruction. 

Do you even know that in the last few days, Russia has knocked out most of the Ukrainian electrical grid and fresh water supply? On top of that, most of the anti missile sites have been blown up.

In the meantime, that little shit Zelinsky is begging the US for replacement anti missile batteries. Yet the old men and kids that makes up what's left of the Ukrainian military, have no idea how to operate them.

Support throughout Europe for this crap, is disappearing and its gonna get worse. In Czech they're giving blankets to students to keep warm.

And all this for what? A reject and failed "nation" that nobody in NATO wants.

Why don’t you share where you’re getting your so-called “information” from? 

[Nationalist]

17 minutes ago, Boges said:

It depends on the terms. You don't reward Putin for annexing parts of Ukraine. 

Yet...you won't go stand and fight.

Hilarious.

[Nationalist]

3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Why don’t you share where you’re getting your so-called “information” from? 

Much is first hand from family who live there Beave.

Where are you getting your "information" from? CNN?

[Boges]

9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Yet...you won't go stand and fight.

Hilarious.

I'm not making the calls. You're asking for my opinion. 

I'm sure the average Ukrainian would prefer not to have 15% of its land taken on the whim of a crazy dictator. 

[Boges]

It seems defending Putin's honour is a full time job for Member Nationalist. 

I guess I get the morning shift for presenting a sensible view of this war. 

[Moonbox]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

What a dunce.

It's ideologues like you who will precipitate global destruction. 

Do you even know that in the last few days, Russia has knocked out most of the Ukrainian electrical grid and fresh water supply? On top of that, most of the anti missile sites have been blown up.

I know he's attacking civilian infrastructure.  I doubt very much he's hit many anti-missile sites.  7 months into the war and he still hasn't suppressed Ukrainian air defense so that's just fantasy.  

What are these attacks proving?  Nothing.  They're just a tantrum from Putin and the warbloggers and nationalists in Russia, trying to do anything they can think of to change the situation.  They're losing and it's only going to get worse.  

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

In the meantime, that little shit Zelinsky is begging the US for replacement anti missile batteries. Yet the old men and kids that makes up what's left of the Ukrainian military, have no idea how to operate them.

Support throughout Europe for this crap, is disappearing and its gonna get worse. In Czech they're giving blankets to students to keep warm.

And all this for what? A reject and failed "nation" that nobody in NATO wants.

Czech students getting blankets means it's all over for Ukraine!  ?

Only in your little fantasy world bud.  Your boy Putin is fully cucked now.  The only thing he can do now is bluster and threaten, but the Russian military has proven itself incompetent/incapable beyond even the most optimistic projections. When this is all over and Ukraine is still standing, I'll remember to have a good chuckle at your expense.  

 

Edited October 12, 2022 by Moonbox

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

I'm not making the calls. You're asking for my opinion. 

I'm sure the average Ukrainian would prefer not to have 15% of its land taken on the whim of a crazy dictator. 

I'm sure as well.

Gee...guess they shouldn't have engaged in the slaughter of the ethnic Russians in the east of Ukraine.

Now...they may get reduced to the central...proper Ukrainian area...and nothing else.

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I'm sure as well.

Gee...guess they shouldn't have engaged in the slaughter of the ethnic Russians in the east of Ukraine.

Cite. 

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Now...they may get reduced to the central...proper Ukrainian area...and nothing else.

Why would they do that? They're winning the war. Only people like you pretending you're interested in peace would advocate for that.