DogOnPorch Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 Is Oliver Stone Russian disinformation? Must be, right? Anyways...full documentary. Ukraine on Fire (2016) https://rumble.com/vwv87d-ukraine-and-russia-ukraine-on-fire-2016-documentary-russian-aggression-or-a.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: the Azovs are quite real. so what? the existence of the Azov Battalion doesn't mean Ukraine is filled with Nazi's Edited September 2, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: so what? the existence of the Azov Battalion doesn't mean Ukraine is filled with Nazi's specific to general fallacy What's a few Nazis to stop Putin? You're better than that...I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: What's a few Nazis to stop Putin? You're better than that...I hope. the existence of the Azov Battalion doesn't mean Ukraine should receive no foreign assistance it doesn't mean that Russia is the lesser evil nor does it justify Russia's invasion of Ukraine Edited September 2, 2022 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: the existence of the Azov Battalion doesn't mean Ukraine is filled with Nazi's it doesn't mean Ukraine should receive no foreign assistance it mean that Russia is the lesser evil nor does it justify Russia's invasion of Ukraine How many Nazi organizations are too many for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: How many Nazi organizations are too many for you? every country has Nazi organizations the existence of them in a country being grounds to provide no assistance to them is a highly stupid standard Edited September 2, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: every country has Nazi organizations the existence of them being grounds to provide no assistance to them is a stupid standard So at least one... What do you think about the main through-street in Kiev being named after the same fellow that assisted with Babi Yar and other SS WW2 events? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: So at least one... What do you think about the main through-street in Kiev being named after the same fellow that assisted with Babi Yar and other SS WW2 events? I think that the Russians committed genocide against Ukrainians and some Ukrainians unsurprisingly support those fighting against those who genocided them are you really dumb enough to think that most of the support for Nazi's in Ukraine is due to them killing Jews instead of them killing the Russians who were killing and starving them? be real Edited September 2, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: I think that the Russians committed genocide against Ukrainians and Ukrainians unsurprisingly support those fighting against those who genocided them are you really dumb enough to think that most of the support of these figures is due to them killing Jews instead of them killing Russians? Dunno what you're going on about Jews for...the Germans don't have Hitler Straße...for example. But the Ukrainians named it Stepana Bandery Ave. This street was renamed for a reason. I doubt you can explain why... Either way, I appreciate your frankness re: your position on Nazis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Dunno what you're going on about Jews for...the Germans don't have Hitler Straße...for example. But the Ukrainians named it Stepana Bandery Ave. This street was renamed for a reason. I doubt you can explain why... Either way, I appreciate your frankness re: your position on Nazis. he was assassinated by the KGB for being a Ukrainian Nationalist who fought against the Soviet Union in WWII murdered for being the thorn in the side of those who committed genocide in Ukraine easily explainable it's not because many Ukrainians are Nazi's who support killing Jews that many consider him a hero it's because he fought against those who were committing genocide against Ukrainians Edited September 2, 2022 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 Of course that logic takes for granted Russia propaganda bullshit that Azov battalion formed by Ukrainian nationalists is "Nazis". France has nationalists. Every single country has them. We have people who call themselves that right here. Mama Russia help, liberate! That's by the same people who bombed schools and maternity hospitals, razed entire cities and executed civilians in the eyes of the entire world in this century where all who can see will see. Nazi is as Nazi does, silly. No, there's no explanations only war crime tribunals. Stick all that mama Russia picturesque bullshit up you can guess where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) I see I have misjudged you both. This is sad to see. Do you two believe that Babi Yar and other events of WW2 even happened? I have to ask. These days, Stephan Bandera is usually commemorated by the OUN* and their allies on his birthday with a rousing torchlight parade to the sounds of 'Jews Out' being chanted. I'm sure you'll have some rationalization for that. https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5076191,00.html *OUN: Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists...Chrystia Freeland held their banner up for the cameras. Edited September 2, 2022 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I see I have misjudged you both. This is sad to see. Do you two believe that Babi Yar and other events of WW2 even happened? I have to ask. no you don't have to ask such a stupid question as if anyone who knows history better than you is somehow a nazi this is stooping to woke tactics you're supposed to be better than that DOP what the hell happened to you? Edited September 2, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: These days, Stephan Bandera is usually commemorated by the OUN* and their allies on his birthday with a rousing torchlight parade to the sounds of 'Jews Out' being chanted. I'm sure you'll have some rationalization for that. I actually seen it with my own eyes. Nothing about Jews so must be another Russia bullshit. Deep yawn. When Russia spills anything of substance, other than blusterous lies and boring bullshit let us know. Not holding breath it'll be awhile (long). Fire parade, Spain India has light festival oh horror Nazis taking over the world. Russia celebrates grand opening of newest advanced toilet "Putin" (you wish it was a joke) Edited September 3, 2022 by myata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: no you don't have to ask such a stupid question as if anyone who knows history better than you is somehow a nazi this is stooping to woke tactics you're supposed to be better than that DOP what the hell happened to you? Here's been like this forever...he sees the word nationalist...he cries Nazis...insert the word social and voila you have commies... Like deputy PM Freeland, DOP also has 'ties' to the Nazi party so...who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 20 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: no you don't have to ask such a stupid question as if anyone who knows history better than you is somehow a nazi this is stooping to woke tactics you're supposed to be better than that DOP what the hell happened to you? So was that a yes or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) On 9/2/2022 at 4:32 AM, myata said: I actually seen it with my own eyes. Nothing about Jews so must be another Russia bullshit. Deep yawn. When Russia spills anything of substance, other than blusterous lies and boring bullshit let us know. Not holding breath it'll be awhile (long). Fire parade, Spain India has light festival oh horror Nazis taking over the world. Russia celebrates grand opening of newest advanced toilet "Putin" (you wish it was a joke) You attend torchlight parades in Kiev? Interesting. Edited September 3, 2022 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: So was that a yes or no? f*ck your question and the woke horse it rode in on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: f*ck your question and the woke horse it rode in on Seriously, did events like Babi Yar happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Seriously, did events like Babi Yar happen? I'll tell you one thing and I'm not ashamed to say it my estimation of DogOnPorch as a man, just f*ckin plummeted Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: my estimation of DogOnPorch as a man, just f*ckin plummeted Well, did Babi Yar happen or was that just lies too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 I'm asking and you can stomp your feet if you must... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Well, did Babi Yar happen or was that just lies too? you've dug yourself into a deep hole and you keep digging your question doesn't warrant a response and it's beyond low to even ask it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: you've dug yourself into a deep hole and you keep digging your question doesn't warrant a response and it's beyond low to even ask it I seem to have you over a bit of a barrel. Did Babi Yar actually happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I seem to have you over a bit of a barrel implying I am a holocaust denier is beyond despicable you should be ashamed of yourself absolutely pathetic Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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