DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: implying I am genocide denier is beyond despicable you should be ashamed of yourself absolutely pathetic So you aren't one...I'll assume for now. Can you describe the Azov group? Who are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: So you aren't one...I'll assume for now. Can you describe the Azov group? Who are they? I'm done with you you are incapable of discussing this topic in good faith you have done massive damage to your reputation in this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: I'm done with you you are incapable of discussing this topic in good faith you have done massive damage to your reputation in this thread I don't care about how you feel about me. I do notice I can't get a straight answer out of you, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I don't care about how you feel about me. I do notice I can't get a straight answer out of you, though. if you wanted straight answers you should have thought about that before repeatedly accusing me of Holocaust denial jackass Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: if you wanted straight answers you should have thought about that before accusing me of Holocaust denial, jackass I'm not certain if you are or are not...thus my asking for point-blank clarification. We've had Holocaust deniers here in the past. My point is that the very same group that assisted the SS get the job done at places like Babi Yar still operates inside Ukraine with the blessing of the government. "What's a few Nazis in the mix?" Should we just ignore the Nazi bits and pay attention to the blue & yellow bits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I'm not certain if you are or are not... and you wonder why I wouldn't want to engage in a discussion with someone being this much of a bad faith actor? you disagree with me..... are you a Holocaust denier? f*ck off Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: and you wonder why I wouldn't want to engage in a discussion with someone being this much of a bad faith actor? Meh...I don't know you and you don't know me. Your support for all things Ukrainian...including a seemingly blind eye to the Azov group...caught my attention. I view them as a paramilitary group of actual Nazis that exists right out in the open inside Ukraine. You're free to disagree with that assessment...if you wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 On 9/2/2022 at 3:12 AM, DogOnPorch said: What's a few Nazis to stop Putin? You're better than that...I hope. Canada did not fight the Second World War to defend the Jews Canada fought the Second World War to defend the Suez Canal for the British Empire beyond then it was NATO policy to leverage fascist regimes as part of containing the Soviets in the Cold War so if you're going to indict Chrystia Freeland you would have to indict every Canadian government for the last 83 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Dougie93 said: Canada did not fight the Second World War to defend the Jews Canada fought the Second World War to defend the Suez Canal for the British Empire beyond then it was NATO policy to leverage fascist regimes as part of containing the Soviets in the Cold War so if you're going to indict Chrystia Freeland you would have to indict every Canadian government for the last 83 years I'm well aware about the 'one Jew is too many' stuff from our government during WW2. Interestingly, our government said that even though the Jews of the MS St Louis were not asking for sanctuary in Canada. Their goal was getting to the USA during the 1940 intake by waiting it out in Cuban waters. As we both know, the Cuban government used that opportunity to steal what cash the Jews still had and send them packing back to Hamburg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I'm well aware about the 'one Jew is too many' stuff from our government during WW2. Interestingly, our government said that even though the Jews of the MS St Louis were not asking for sanctuary in Canada. Their goal was getting to the USA during the 1940 intake by waiting it out in Cuban waters. As we both know, the Cuban government used that opportunity to steal what cash the Jews still had and send them packing back to Hamburg. well I do respect your views on the matter but could you clarify exactly what you are indicting Freeland for ? are you saying that she is a National Socialist and/or Nazi sympathizer ? or if not, what is her specific offence vis a vis her support of Ukrainian nationalism ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: well I do respect your views on the matter but could you clarify exactly what you are indicting Freeland for ? are you saying that she is a National Socialist and/or Nazi sympathizer ? or if not, what is her specific offence vis a vis her support of Ukrainian nationalism ? She is definitely part of a modern version of the Bandera movement. A Ukraine expert, she knew very well what the Blood & Soil banner of the OUN means including all of its history. But there she is...holding it up. Ooooops...better delete that tweet. Too late, Ms Freeland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: She is definitely part of a modern version of the Bandera movement. A Ukraine expert, she knew very well what the Blood & Soil banner of the OUN means including all of its history. But there she is...holding it up. Ooooops...better delete that tweet. Too late, Ms Freeland. you just accuse everyone who supports Ukraine of being a Holocaust denier so much wokeness Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: just accuse everyone who supports Ukraine of being a Holocaust denier so much wokeness Hold-up a Nazi banner and I might just assume you're a Nazi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Hold-up a Nazi banner and I might just assume you're a Nazi. a few people do it and you assume the whole country are Nazi's you are like Trudeau accusing all the Freedom Convoy of being Nazi's because of one swastika Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: a few people do it and you assume the whole country are Nazi's Freeland did do it. She's a key figure in the Liberal government. It's not like she was handed the banner and went: "What's this?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: She is definitely part of a modern version of the Bandera movement. A Ukraine expert, she knew very well what the Blood & Soil banner of the OUN means including all of its history. But there she is...holding it up. Ooooops...better delete that tweet. Too late, Ms Freeland. I'll take that under advisement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Freeland did do it. She's a key figure in the Liberal government. It's not like she was handed the banner and went: "What's this?" seeing Nazi's under every rock so woke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: seeing Nazi's under every rock so woke I'm seeing them in Ukraine. And Freeland held-up one of their banners while tweeting out the whole thing proudly until someone pointed-out the poor optics of openly supporting the Bandera movement. But seeing Joe's speech the other night, Red & Black might be the chosen colours of these folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I'm seeing them in Ukraine. And Freeland held-up one of their banners while tweeting out the whole thing proudly until someone pointed-out the poor optics of openly supporting the Bandera movement. But seeing Joe's speech the other night, Red & Black might be the chosen colours of these folks. most of the support of Bandera is due to his support of Ukrainian nationalism and him fighting the genocidal Soviets and being assassinated for it for that cause not him killing Jews you aren't seeing what you think you are seeing you are viewing this through a woke lens only Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: not him killing Jews That's apparently not a problem for a lot of the people that support Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: That's apparently not a problem for a lot of the people that support Ukraine. fake news if the only way you can convince yourself you're right is too accuse everyone who disagrees with you of antisemitism then your argument is very weak hence the resorting to woke bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I'll take that under advisement One thing I find really odd is that Nina Jankowicz (of Scary Poppins fame) also worked for the Ukraine government. Non-sequitur? Perhaps. But a lot of 'Ukraine experts' in the works these days...I notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: fake news if the only way you can convince yourself you're right is too accuse everyone who disagrees with you of antisemitism then your argument is very weak hence the resorting to woke bullshit Are the Azovs Nazis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Are the Azovs Nazis? I'm pretty sure a bunch of them are that doesn't make everyone who supports Ukraine a Nazi though that does not follow Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: I'm pretty sure a bunch of them are that doesn't make everyone who supports Ukraine a Nazi though How many Nazis are too many? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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