Charest, Poilievre & Maxime Bernier

[August1991]

55 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

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there is no such thing as a good Canadian PM

the role of Canadian PM is inherently corrupting

because Canadian Confederation is an intently corrupt enterprise in of itself

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And yet, Dougie93, Canada is among the most civilised societies in the world.

Unlike Iceland and Japan, we accept new immigrants.

Unlike England and Saudi Arabia, Canada's Head of State has no official religion.

Unlike Argentina, Canada's banks are reliable.

And unlike Scandinavians, Canadians make foreigners feel at home.

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Yet unlike the US, we've never had a civil war.

Despite Canada's religious/language divides, we've avoided sectarian/communal violence:

-unlike Sri Lanka

-unlike England/Ireland

-unlike Russia/Ukraine

Edited July 31, 2022 by August1991

[Dougie93]

41 minutes ago, August1991 said:

And yet, Dougie93, Canada is among the most civilised societies in the world.

I don't do the self righteous self congratulatory  Canadian thing

Canadians are not so civilized

the government is a totalitarian tyranny which beats peaceful protesters down in the streets

the constitution is totally ignored, and Canada is being run by cult of the personality

same as it is in Russia

Canadians are divided into two ideological camps which hate each other with a passion

same as it is in America

if Canada wasn't propped up and defended by the Americans, it would collapse into chaos

and nobody in the world can actually tell the difference between Americans & Canadians

because there isn't any difference anymore, Canada is part of the American monoculture

Edited July 31, 2022 by Dougie93

[August1991]

6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I don't do the self righteous self congratulatory  Canadian thing

 

Good point.

This "Canadian thing" didn't just happen by chance.

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Good point.

This "Canadian thing" didn't just happen by chance.

well, it's not even a Canadian thing

because Canada is a British thing

Canadians didn't actually invent Canada, that was the British who done that

other than fighting bravely for the British Empire

what has Canada really ever done of consequence ?

like keep patting yourselves on the back for doing jack shit basically, its the Canadian way

Edited July 31, 2022 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

and even if you are a leftist in Canada ?

according to the left in Canada

a large cohort of Canadians who are "Nazi Terrorists funded by the Americans"

just tried to overthrow the government

and thank goodness the hero Trudeau crushed them all mercilessly

that's not sounding so civilized neither

that is the brink of violent insurrection and civil war

all dutifully reported by the state run Canadian media propagandists

Canada could have a full on civil war

and Canadians would still pat themselves on the back in self congratulation

"not as bad as the American civil war, Canadian civil wars are much more civilized"

Edited July 31, 2022 by Dougie93

[August1991]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

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because Canada is a British thing

Canadians didn't actually invent Canada, that was the British who done that

other than fighting bravely for the British Empire

what has Canada really ever done of consequence ?

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Australia is a British thing.

Even America is a British thing. Sort of.

Canada? We get along. Maybe because of you British - and practical Normans.

 

[August1991]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

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what has Canada really ever done of consequence ?

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I was recently in France. I was curious to see the US cemetery in Normandy.

IMHO, the US cemetery in Italy is more impressive.

But most impressive of all is the beach in Dieppe and the Commonwealth cemetery above.

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For those that don't know, Americans collect and bury their war dead in one place. The British/Commonwealth bury their dead close to where they died. (Seven square stones are common in French church cemeteries.)

The French put memorials in the village where the soldiers were born - listing names.

There are some German war cemeteries in France. Black stones in the ground - with names.

I have never seen a Russian war cemetery where individual Russians are identified. 

Edited July 31, 2022 by August1991

[August1991]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

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what has Canada really ever done of consequence ?

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Mulroney once said, we Canadians earned our place at the table.

But more, like Trudeau Snr once said about Jack Horner - we Canadians get along. 

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, August1991 said:

Mulroney once said, we Canadians earned our place at the table.

But more, like Trudeau Snr once said about Jack Horner - we Canadians get along. 

I don't think Canadians are getting along anymore

it seems completely divided into two ideological camps

exactly the same camps as in America

mimicking the Americans, copying them, emulating them

we have imported America's civil conflict and grafted it on to Canada now

like I remember when we got along

and it was not like this

suffice to say, I don't think self congratulations are in order

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, August1991 said:

I was recently in France. I was curious to see the US cemetery in Normandy.

IMHO, the US cemetery in Italy is more impressive.

But most impressive of all is the beach in Dieppe and the Commonwealth cemetery above.

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For those that don't know, Americans collect and bury their war dead in one place. The British/Commonwealth bury their dead close to where they died. (Seven square stones are common in French church cemeteries.)

The French put memorials in the village where the soldiers were born - listing names.

There are some German war cemeteries in France. Black stones in the ground - with names.

I have never seen a Russian war cemetery where individual Russians are identified. 

but now we have a government in Canada

which has stated that the tole of the Canadian Forces is to "fight systemic racism & misogyny" ?

like some troll just accused me of being crazy & dangerous because I said the PM is treasonous

but I am the sane one

the government which is pandering to some far left extremist American Marxism is what is crazy & dangerous

the Canadians who fought the Second World War would have the entire cabinet arrested and put in military detention

this country is going off the rails into cuckoo bananas land

the government's own official report even accuses Canada of committing "genocide"

are we going to pat ourselves on the back for being the Nazis apparently, according to our government ?

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, August1991 said:

Australia is a British thing.

Even America is a British thing. Sort of.

Canada? We get along. Maybe because of you British - and practical Normans.

 

Quebec is the most British part of Canada

the Household Infantry of the Regular force is the  Royal 22e Régiment mounting guard at the Citadel

Quebec was never part of the French Republic

the House of Bourbon is long dead npw

the only origins of Quebec which survive, are British, born upon the Plains of Abraham

Montcalm might as well be British now, since the French Revolution would have had him executed by guillotine

[Dougie93]

I have spent my whole life studying Canadian history

right back to the founding by the French on 22 June 1603

and this Canada now, is the worst Canada that ever was

don't pat yourself on the back for the economy

we are not actually rich anymore

we are completely insolvent, literally can't even borrow money anymore

we have to print money to fund Canada now like the Weimar Republic

Canadians literally hate each other now, the fights are becoming as vicious as any third world banana republic

we are allowing ourselves to be governed by pathologically lying criminal lunatics

the government capacity at all levels is spiralling into collapse

Canadians are lurching from one hysterical moral panic to the next, like the witch trials of the middle ages

the constitution is being ignored by the government

the government has suspended Parliament indefinitely

the central bank is bankrupting the country

 Canadians are going to be rendered homeless in the streets

by inflation or interest, pick your poison

we are in a demographic collapse, the population is rapidly shrinking

the rule of law is breaking down

the judges, prosecutors & police are in the pockets of utterly corrupt & inept politicians

we are locking people up for protesting,  as de facto political prisoners

the public education system has been replaced by ideological indoctrination camps

our supposedly great public healthcare system is crumbling

if you even so much as fly the Canadian flag, you are accused of being a "Nazi"

desperate Canadians have gone so far as to try to blockade the border to get attention

Canada on the one hand allows the Indians to blockade the railways

allows eco-terrorists to attack the pipelines, allows mobs to tear down our historical sites

then turns around and tramples peaceful protesting old ladies under mounted police

the world is watching, and they're all saying that there is something very wrong with Canada

Canada is a disaster area by Canadian standards right now, it's like a lunatic asylum

yet still Canadians can't stop patting themselves on the back in self congratulation

as the country burns down into a failed state in the background

we have become the most delusional people on earth, in complete denial of reality

at least the Americans can admit that they are melting down into civil war

but Canada is so pathologically  insecure

we can't even acknowledge that the house is on fire

Edited July 31, 2022 by Dougie93

[August1991]

On 7/31/2022 at 3:19 AM, Dougie93 said:

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we are not actually rich anymore

we are completely insolvent, literally can't even borrow money anymore

we have to print money to fund Canada now like the Weimar Republic

Canadians literally hate each other now, the fights are becoming as vicious as any third world banana republic

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In fact, we Canadians are rich - in real terms. This is why many foreigners want to move here.

In fact, our federal government debt is well below the US - or even historical standards.

I agree. Our Bank of Canada should not print so much money.

I disagree. I'm old enough to remember when people in Quebec hated/argued each other more. 

Edited August 2, 2022 by August1991

[Dougie93]

5 hours ago, August1991 said:

In fact, we Canadians are rich - in real terms. This is why many foreigners want to move here.

In fact, our federal government debt is well below the US - or even historical standards.

I agree. Our Bank of Canada should not print so much money.

I disagree. I'm old enough to remember when people in Quebec hated/argued each other more. 

ye, yes

you're the reading the scripted Canadian response to everything

first some self congratulatory back patting

then declare that "America is worse" and that Canada has no serious problems, everything's fine

it's reflexive, Canadians read this same script like automatons

it's same script every single time, like clockwork

clearly, it's the Canadian defense mechanism

thus I know that is no point in arguing with it

as the response will just be to repeat the script in variations

never mind that Canada is integrated into the American economy

so America's debt problems are Canada's debt problems

Edited August 2, 2022 by Dougie93

[Zeitgeist]

5 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

ye, yes

you're the reading the scripted Canadian response to everything

first some self congratulatory back patting

then declare that "America is worse" and that Canada has no serious problems, everything's fine

it's reflexive, Canadians read this same script like automatons

it's same script every single time, like clockwork

clearly, it's the Canadian defense mechanism

thus I know that is no point in arguing with it

as the response will just be to repeat the script in variations

never mind that Canada is integrated into the American economy

so America's debt problems are Canada's debt problems

I think we all need to calm down about America’s influence and control.  Empires come and go and I’m grateful that Canada is part of the American and formerly British empire.  English Canada preserved French Canada, and now the US is preserving Canadian North America.  Fine by me.  

[Queenmandy85]

31 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think we all need to calm down about America’s influence and control.  Empires come and go and I’m grateful that Canada is part of the American and formerly British empire.  English Canada preserved French Canada, and now the US is preserving Canadian North America.  Fine by me.  

We are not part of the American Empire. They tried to invade us twice, and we kicked them out both times. 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Queenmandy85

[Zeitgeist]

26 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

We are not part of the American Empire. They tried to invade us twice, and we kicked them out both times. 

Canada can’t fend of the US militarily and it would be ridiculous and suicidal to suggest such a move today.  I put more faith in US Republicans to save Canadian democracy and culture than our current federal government.  Trudeau doesn’t represent the interests of most Canadians in my opinion.  The current Liberal Party of Canada and to a large extent the US Democrats are in the pocket of China and internationalist organizations. They’re not really smart about the domestic economies and national interests.  

Edited August 2, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Nationalist]

19 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The current Liberal Party of Canada and to a large extent the US Democrats are in the pocket of China and internationalist organizations. They’re not really smart about the domestic economies and national interests.  

I disagree with this.

They are smart. The proof is that they continue to sell Canada out to the Chinese, yet continue to hold power in Canada.

So they are "smart".

They are not patriots.

[Queenmandy85]

15 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Canada can’t fend of the US militarily and it would be ridiculous and suicidal to suggest such a move today.  I put more faith in US Republicans to save Canadian democracy and culture than our current federal government.  Trudeau doesn’t represent the interests of most Canadians in my opinion.  The current Liberal Party of Canada and to a large extent the US Democrats are in the pocket of China and internationalist organizations. They’re not really smart about the domestic economies and national interests.  

I agree, we would have to absorb an American invasion and then grind them until they lose so much blood that they leave. The US military is impressive, but their record at winning a war on their own is poor. Fortunately, unless the unthinkable happens in 2024, it is not something we need to think about, except to up date Defence Scheme #1.

Republicans are the complete antithesis of Canadian culture. The Democrats are no better. Why can't the Americans find decent competent politicians?

 

[Queenmandy85]

If, as all the experts predict, Mr. Poillievre and the Socialist Credit rump wins the leadership of the CPC, we need to get used to the prospect of a Liberal government until 2029. Without a viable Conservative party, the grits will continue to be the Natural Governing Party.

[Nationalist]

35 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

If, as all the experts predict, Mr. Poillievre and the Socialist Credit rump wins the leadership of the CPC, we need to get used to the prospect of a Liberal government until 2029. Without a viable Conservative party, the grits will continue to be the Natural Governing Party.

Should Charest win the CPC leadership, I will vote People's Party.

Charest is a LIBERAL through and through. While the jury is still out on how Pollievre would lead, we KNOW what Charest would do.

If it means Canada has to bear out another term of Pixie-Dust, so be it. Eventually Canadians will awaken to the fact that Pixie-Dust has not a single patriotic bone in his frail little carcass.

IMO...the CPC should elect Pollievre...which it appears they will...and work to gain the support of the BQ and the People's Party. That would ensure a CPC win and out with the woke li'l fuck Pixie-Dust and his lap dog...that stupid fuck who had to try multiple times just to get a seat in Parliament...what a fucking loser that moron is.

Mission accomplished.

Edited August 2, 2022 by Nationalist

[Queenmandy85]

8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

IMO...the CPC should elect Pollievre...which it appears they will...and work to gain the support of the BQ and the People's Party.

But they would lose the support of many Conservatives, so they would lose. The Social Credit / Reform party has never come close to winning government.

[Nationalist]

9 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

But they would lose the support of many Conservatives, so they would lose. The Social Credit / Reform party has never come close to winning government.

I don't vote for whom I figure will win.

I vote my conscience.

If you want to vote for whom you figure will win, that's your right.

But DO NOT let me catch you claiming to be any sort of a patriot.

[RedDog]

Say no to French names. Canada is a member of the British Commonwealth. French have an instant and built in conflict of interest which should disqualify them in the first place.

[dialamah]

47 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I don't vote for whom I figure will win.

I vote my conscience.

If you want to vote for whom you figure will win, that's your right.

But DO NOT let me catch you claiming to be any sort of a patriot.

Perhaps voting their conscience means not voting for Poliviere.  Ever think of that?