Current Events Evidence: The election, court rulings, etc.

[Michael Hardner]

9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

1. Here's what the jury forewoman had to say right after the verdict.

1. Sorry - I haven't had time to look at that case... it doesn't seem germane to the thread though.

Do you concede that the Michigan case was lost fair and square now ?

[Michael Hardner]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10904155/Trump-turns-IVANKA-said-long-checked-election.html

 

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Trump throws IVANKA under the bus after she told January 6 committee she didn't believe the 2020 election was stolen: Furious ex-president says his daughter had 'long-since checked out' and was not involved in looking at votes

So .... I ask once again for current Cult members: now that Trump has turned against Ivanka DINO will you do so also ?

Wasn't he grooming her (sorry) to continue the amazing Trump dynasty of massive deficits and national disunity, moral decay etc. etc. ?

[sharkman]

So now you want to raise Ivanka  as some kind of standard?  Shall we look into her past and trot out everything she’s ever said and done to embarrass you?  What’s the point?

You are just doing more trolling, it’s what a troll does.

[Aristides]

On 6/8/2022 at 6:57 PM, Nationalist said:

So...if it's just small election tampering and cheating...that's ok? Just a case of degrees of impact? Hmmm...

So if I tear out just one of your toenails...that should be ok too?

For someone who claims fealty to institutions...you don't seem to very principled about it.

So who did they "cheat" for, oh great sage?

[Aristides]

15 minutes ago, sharkman said:

So now you want to raise Ivanka  as some kind of standard?  Shall we look into her past and trot out everything she’s ever said and done to embarrass you?  What’s the point?

You are just doing more trolling, it’s what a troll does.

Barr said the same thing.

[sharkman]

The hand recount in Georgia may have been brought up in other threads already, but it should be mentioned in this thread too.

https://www.westernjournal.com/voter-integrity-breached-hand-count-exposes-machines-off-thousands/

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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that, based on the initial results posted on May 24, Democratic Dekalb County commission candidate Michelle Long Spears came in third place, and therefore did not qualify for a runoff.

“Spears and her team, though, noticed that initial results showed her receiving zero election votes at most precincts in the district,” according to the news outlet.

After a hand count was conducted over Memorial Day weekend, Spears picked up over 3,600 votes and went from being in third place to first.  She will now advance to the June 21 runoff, assuming the results are certified.

 

So for those who are still able to think critically, this is another case where voting machines miscounted the ballots, which drastically altered the election results.  

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Sorry - I haven't had time to look at that case... it doesn't seem germane to the thread though.

Do you concede that the Michigan case was lost fair and square now ?

Haven't looked at the Michigan case yet...

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

So who did they "cheat" for, oh great sage?

The Pilsbury doughboy...go home...

[Aristides]

15 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

The Pilsbury doughboy...go home...

No answer then. You're like the guy who claims they lost an election because all the people who didn't vote would have voted for them.

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

No answer then. You're like the guy who claims they lost an election because all the people who didn't vote would have voted for them.

And you're just like a Libbie cheater who wants nothing more that to destroy any true democratic election process so you can assure one sided government.

All your horseshit accomplishes is to ensure when the time comes, the hammer comes down mercilessly. I hear you Libbies say things like..."They want to destroy democracy"...lol

You fucks have already crippled it. I pray you get what you all so richly deserve.

[Michael Hardner]

On 6/8/2022 at 9:57 PM, Nationalist said:

1. So...if it's just small election tampering and cheating...that's ok? Just a case of degrees of impact? Hmmm...

2. So if I tear out just one of your toenails...that should be ok too?

3. For someone who claims fealty to institutions...you don't seem to very principled about it.

1. Not really but it doesn't constitute a stolen election or fraud.  It's essentially rounding error and happens every election
2. No but if you cut one of them that's ok.
3. Wrong.  Institutions have constructs to deal with fraud and cheating, if they've been around for a long time.  Revolutionaries point at a single anomaly or cheater and say the system is invalid and they should be put into power.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Not really but it doesn't constitute a stolen election or fraud.  It's essentially rounding error and happens every election
2. No but if you cut one of them that's ok.
3. Wrong.  Institutions have constructs to deal with fraud and cheating, if they've been around for a long time.  Revolutionaries point at a single anomaly or cheater and say the system is invalid and they should be put into power.

Single???

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Single???

Worse.  Married.

Seriously - nobody has provided evidence of systemic fraud.  They produce individual cases like the LOCAL Arizona election posted on here.  Think about it - is that really evidence of the kind of organized effort required to steal whole states ?

If not then where is the evidence ?  

If they have it, why are they muddying the waters by submitting these small scale things and trumping them up ?

[sharkman]

1) Perhaps you should read the title of this thread a few times until it sinks in.

2) You should never make negative declarations about yourself, or anything in your life. Even in jest.

[BeaverFever]

In Testimony released today, Trumps own inner circle including Ivanka admit that Trump knew his fraud claims were bullshit:

 

 

Trump's inner circle admits to the Jan. 6 committee: He lost the election, but wanted to overturn it

 

WASHINGTON — Ally after ally of former President Donald Trump — his eldest daughter, his former attorney general, a former senior campaign aide — admitted to congressional investigators that his claims that the 2020 election were stolen from him were false.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna32890
 

 

 

Ivanka Trump says she does not believe father’s claim election was stolen

Ivanka Trump has told the panel investigating the 6 January 2021 attack on Congress that she does not believe her father’s false claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him.
 

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ivanka-trump-says-she-does-072918307.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNhLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJt4iuLexA9-8tLH4LGLzpPaZ5r7qmfJkBfwHigoyGf210NNOQ26WagtV74YK5yxKKYfSG6xrXNKklwZl7387wchv9Gq4-u9_2hQXhvyWXmWggUuEBq7YnI8WdUQ4iYzV8AejBAWn0aDX1kyJuwe4Zqw8CQ4WFLy--Y4r0j_KcSQ
 

 

 

 

So go on keep living your fever dream where magical secret evidence will still suddenly appear proving Trump was right all along. And keep telling yourself that all those Republican politicians and Trump supporters who have actually been caught and arrested for actually committing election fraud in 2020 and afterwards  “don’t really count”  because blah blah conspiracy!!!!!’

[BeaverFever]

8 hours ago, sharkman said:

The hand recount in Georgia may have been brought up in other threads already, but it should be mentioned in this thread too.

https://www.westernjournal.com/voter-integrity-breached-hand-count-exposes-machines-off-thousands/

So for those who are still able to think critically, this is another case where voting machines miscounted the ballots, which drastically altered the election results.  

So if you’re able to think critically you’d understand that:

1) A LOCAL election ERROR that was IMMEDIATELY DETECTED  AND RECTIFIED by the ESTABLISHED VOTE INTEGRITY PROCEDURES and IMMEDIATELY  MADE  PUBLIC ……is not proof that in the FEDERAL election, FRAUD was committed that STILL HAS NOT BEEN DETECTED NEARLY  2 YEARS LATER and NOT MADE PUBLIC 

 

2) A Republican-run election in which a Democrat was disfavoured does not proves that Democrats stole previous elections from Republicans  Republicans 

3) As clearly stated, the election results were not altered. The election results have not been determined yet. Only the initial machine count was in error but was immediately identified and a recount corrected the problem  As you can read here:

 

In a Friday statement the Secretary of State's office said the issue "should have been caught by earlier checks in the process, but it was not. However, it was caught as soon as election returns started to come in. In fact, it was glaringly obvious. This is a sign that the system of multiple checks and balances works."

https://www.axios.com/local/atlanta/2022/06/06/perfect-storm-of-issues-led-to-recount-in-dekalb-county

 

So sure go ahead and believe this little story proves Trumps 2020 re-election was stolen….You know in the same way a man riding a bicycle proves that dogs are piloting commercial aircraft. 

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Worse.  Married.

Seriously - nobody has provided evidence of systemic fraud.  They produce individual cases like the LOCAL Arizona election posted on here.  Think about it - is that really evidence of the kind of organized effort required to steal whole states ?

If not then where is the evidence ?  

If they have it, why are they muddying the waters by submitting these small scale things and trumping them up ?

Lol...

Now we move to "systemic" fraud.

Mike you're defending the indefensible. 

And I suspect you know it.

[Nationalist]

Just now, BeaverFever said:

So if you’re able to think critically you’d understand that:

1) A LOCAL election ERROR that was IMMEDIATELY DETECTED  AND RECTIFIED by the ESTABLISHED VOTE INTEGRITY PROCEDURES and IMMEDIATELY  MADE  PUBLIC ……is not proof that in the FEDERAL election, FRAUD was committed that STILL HAS NOT BEEN DETECTED NEARLY  2 YEARS LATER and NOT MADE PUBLIC 

 

2) A Republican-run election in which a Democrat was disfavoured does not proves that Democrats stole previous elections from Republicans  Republicans 

3) As clearly stated, the election results were not altered. The election results have not been determined yet. Only the initial machine count was in error but was immediately identified and a recount corrected the problem  As you can read here:

 

In a Friday statement the Secretary of State's office said the issue "should have been caught by earlier checks in the process, but it was not. However, it was caught as soon as election returns started to come in. In fact, it was glaringly obvious. This is a sign that the system of multiple checks and balances works."

https://www.axios.com/local/atlanta/2022/06/06/perfect-storm-of-issues-led-to-recount-in-dekalb-county

 

So sure go ahead and believe this little story proves Trumps 2020 re-election was stolen….You know in the same way a man riding a bicycle proves that dogs are piloting commercial aircraft. 

Amusing. You are such an abject failure. 

[BeaverFever]

10 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Amusing. You are such an abject failure. 

The fact that you’re only able to respond with insults actually proves you’re the abject failure.  

[Nationalist]

42 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The fact that you’re only able to respond with insults actually proves you’re the abject failure.  

Oh of course. Because I managed to make this altered economy work for me.

How's life in mommy's basement? 

[sharkman]

4 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

So if you’re able to think critically you’d understand that:

1) A LOCAL election ERROR that was IMMEDIATELY DETECTED  AND RECTIFIED by the ESTABLISHED VOTE INTEGRITY PROCEDURES and IMMEDIATELY  MADE  PUBLIC ……is not proof that in the FEDERAL election, FRAUD was committed that STILL HAS NOT BEEN DETECTED NEARLY  2 YEARS LATER and NOT MADE PUBLIC 

 

2) A Republican-run election in which a Democrat was disfavoured does not proves that Democrats stole previous elections from Republicans  Republicans 

3) As clearly stated, the election results were not altered. The election results have not been determined yet. Only the initial machine count was in error but was immediately identified and a recount corrected the problem  As you can read here... 

This thread is not trying to “prove” that the 2020 election was stolen.  Feel free to reread that a few times to get your bearings.

This thread is simply documenting where Americans(3 or 4 links now) have been found guilty in a court of law, of some kind of voter or ballot fraud in an election.  That’s it.  You can’t deny it, a judge has ruled.  And one judge was even found guilty of it.

most of you on the left have not even heard of these cases, because your media sources aren’t telling you about it.  They’d rather talk about Ivanka Trump.  But you are not hearing the full story on election fraud.

You’re also not hearing the full story on the growing food shortage.  The real inflation rate.  The Ukraine war.  China’s preparations to attack Taiwan, and many other things.

Instead they are covering Monkeypox, which doesn’t spread and isn’t a pandemic, though they are covering it as if it is one…meanwhile, the DOW has lost 5000 points since January.
 

Edited June 11, 2022 by sharkman

[BeaverFever]

9 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Oh of course. Because I managed to make this altered economy work for me.

How's life in mommy's basement? 

You’re clearly confused.   The woman-hating 40-yr old virgin internet trolls living in their parents basement are all Trump supporters. 
 

In contrast my wife and I have a great life, both with great jobs, great salaries, great kids, living in a great home and a great cottage. Our life is great in every economy. 
 

You’re abject failure is that you’re not able to provide any intelligent rebuttal to my post when I dismantle your silly claims  so you stoop to petty childish insults and name calling. 

Edited June 11, 2022 by BeaverFever

[BeaverFever]

5 hours ago, sharkman said:

This thread is simply documenting where Americans(3 or 4 links now) have been found guilty in a court of law, of some kind of voter or ballot fraud in an election.  That’s it.  You can’t deny it, a judge has ruled.  And one judge was even found guilty of it.

most of you on the left have not even heard of these cases, because your media sources aren’t telling you about it.  They’d rather talk about Ivanka Trump.  But you are not hearing the full story on election fraud.

Hilarious. Have you not heard of all the Republicans caught for election fraud in 2020 an subsequent elections?  I have been regularly posting those links. 
 

5 hours ago, sharkman said:

You’re also not hearing the full story on the growing food shortage.  The real inflation rate.  The Ukraine war.  China’s preparations to attack Taiwan, and many other things.

Why would you assume we’re not getting the full story on those topics?  Those are literally the headlines every day. 

[taxme]

On 6/9/2022 at 7:10 PM, Michael Hardner said:

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/ivanka-trump-tells-u-s-congress-she-rejects-fathers-election-fraud-claim?r

Ivanka says there was no election fraud it seems.

What names will you come up with for her ?  Daughter in name only... DINO ?
 

Ivanka said that she "rejected" her fathers election fraud claim. But she could not produce any proof herself that the election was not a fraud. Dino is probably a good name for you. ?

[taxme]

On 6/10/2022 at 7:41 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Do Trolls have multiple aliases and continue to submit disproven arguments and insults ?  Which one of us does that ?  Hmmm....

Probably you. Just saying. ?