Aristides Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Dougie93 said: you are obsessed with grabbing the guns the mass shooters are reactive to that you are provoking them with your leftist lunacy the more you try to crack down, the more mass shooters you will get they know how to retaliate against you, because you tell them you can't help yourself, you will keep provoking them until they gas you & put you in ovens this Anomie is the stuff the Holocaust was made of but there's nothing I can do about it, I can't stop you, I can't stop them and I don't worry about that which is beyond my control the government is worse than useless before too long, these mass shooters will be the government, like the Third Reich I'm not obsessed with anything of the sort. I think Canada's current gun laws are a reasonable compromise between the ability to own a firearm and public safety. People are committing mass murders because they are afraid of having their guns taken away? If they are that looney they effing well should have them taken away. What I am completely opposed to is going down the same rabbit hole as our southern neighbours. Edited July 8, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) On 7/8/2022 at 12:57 PM, Aristides said: I'm not obsessed with anything of the sort. I think Canada's current gun laws are a reasonable compromise between the ability to own a firearm and public safety. as I say, I have no need for an automatic rile, I don't own one, so the gun laws are not bothering me when on Canadian soil I uphold my obligations to the Crrown I simply reject the idea that bolt action rifles are in fact "safer" than AR15's and that a mass sniper is actually more dangerous and so more terrifying than a mass shooter with an AR15 and furthermore, we have a government which allows open borders & defunds our security forces so we won't be able to keep the illegal weapons out of Canada and the police can't protect us, they demonstrated that with the recent mass shooting in Nova Scotia so might be a good idea for Canadians to own long guns of the not automatic non restricted kinds because guns are guns, its just a tool, whether you survive a gunfight or not, comes down to the shooter Edited July 9, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 On 7/6/2022 at 7:21 AM, Yzermandius19 said: other countries don't manage their gun control is not responsible for them having less mass shootings My guess is that their people just aren't as weird about things as Americans are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Aristides said: I'm not obsessed with anything of the sort. I think Canada's current gun laws are a reasonable compromise between the ability to own a firearm and public safety. People are committing mass murders because they are afraid of having their guns taken away? If they are that looney they effing well should have them taken away. What I am completely opposed to is going down the same rabbit hole as our southern neighbours. America Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug going down the rabbit hole of freedom would be sweet Canada should try it sometime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said: America Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug going down the rabbit hole of freedom would be sweet Canada should try it sometime Too many bodies. Guns and bars in schools. People arming themselves out of fear. FREEDUUM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Aristides said: Too many bodies. Guns and bars in schools. People arming themselves out of fear. FREEDUUM! the bodies are not a result of freedom depriving people of freedom isn't safety that results in more bodies it disempowers law abiding citizens and empowers criminals Edited July 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said: the bodies are not a result of freedom depriving people of freedom isn't safety that results in more bodies it disempowers law abiding citizens and empowers criminals Yup, need the freeeduuum to create more bodies. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Aristides said: Yup, need the freeeduuum to create more bodies. Carry on. can't have mass shooters being killed by people exercising their right to keep and bear arms because Aristides is scared of inanimate objects he doesn't understand blaming the objects and not the people abusing them leads to ridiculous policy proposals that don't address the issue Edited July 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: can't have mass shooters being killed by people exercising their right to keep and bear arms because Aristides is scared of inanimate objects he doesn't understand When does that ever happen, once out of every 100? We need to start a pool. How many days/weeks//months before the next school shooting. Edited July 9, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: When does that ever happen, once out of every 100? more law abiding citizens carrying guns increases the likelihood that it will happen less law abiding citizens carrying guns decreases the likelihood that it will happen you're the one proposing policies that will create more bodies not those who wish to preserve people's rights mass shooters often target gun free zones for a reason and you want to make their job easier Edited July 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: more law abiding citizens carrying guns increases the likelihood that it will happen less law abiding citizens carrying guns decreases the likelihood that it will happen you're the one proposing policies that will create more bodies not those who wish to preserve people's rights mass shooters often target gun free zones for a reason and you want to make their job easier You make it easier by letting them buy guns. But carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: You make it easier by letting them buy guns. But carry on. they can buy guns whether it's legal or not you are only affecting law abiding citizens with your proposals not criminals who ignore the law by definition therefore you are the one making it easier on them, not me Edited July 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: they can buy guns whether it's legal or not you are only affecting law abiding citizens with your proposals not criminals who ignore the law by definition therefore you are the one making it easier on them, not me Only because you make them so available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Aristides said: Only because you make them so available. they will be available regardless none of your proposals prevent mass shooters from obtaining firearms you just think they will because you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer and wishful thinking is a helluva drug Edited July 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said: they will be available regardless none of your proposals prevent mass shooters from obtaining firearms you just think they will because you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer and wishful thinking is a helluva drug They work pretty well every where else. You guys just fit Einstein's definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Or do you just accept the body count as the price of doing business? Edited July 9, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Aristides said: They work pretty well every where else. no they don't they work terrible everywhere else you are the one who keeps wanting the same shit the doesn't work over and over again doubling down on failure is your favorite thing Edited July 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: no they don't they work terrible everywhere else you are the one who keeps wanting the same shit the doesn't work over and over again doubling down on failure is your favorite thing Really? What developed country has more mass shootings than the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Aristides said: Really? What developed country has more mass shootings than the US? non sequitur you have no evidence that the mass shootings that occur in any nation are related to the level of gun control in that country and you can't connect American gun crime to America having less gun control besides there are developed countries with higher per capita death rates due to mass shootings than America with far stricter gun control and your simplistic worldview that availability of guns is the main issue doesn't account for that nor does it explain why Switzerland who has guns widely available has so much fewer mass shooting deaths than America fact is, you're just wrong about the source of mass shootings and your proposed policies don't address the root of the issue as a result Edited July 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: non sequitur you have no evidence that the mass shootings that occur in any nation are related to the level of gun control in that country and you can't connect American gun crime to America having less gun control besides there are developed countries with higher per capita death rates due to mass shootings than America with far stricter gun control and your simplistic worldview that availability of guns is the main issue doesn't account for that nor does it explain why Switzerland who has guns widely available has so much fewer mass shooting deaths than America fact is, you're just wrong about the source of mass shootings and your proposed policies don't address the root of the issue as a result We’ll make up your mind, you either have too many guns or a shit society. It has been very well explained wh Switzerland has fewer shootings and I have posted it here. Switzerland actually has very few guns per capita compared to the US. Eve Canada has more. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-ownership-by-country https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country Edited July 9, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: We’ll make up your mind, you either have too many guns or a shit society. It has been very well explained wh Switzerland has fewer shootings and I have posted it here. it's a people issue not a guns issue yet your "solutions" are all about the guns not the shooters you want to address the wrong problem Edited July 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: it's a people issue not a guns issue yet your "solutions" are all about the guns not the shooters you want to address the wrong problem Yes it is a people problem. People who worship guns and think they are some kind of solution to their problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Aristides said: Yes it is a people problem. People who worship guns and think they are some kind of solution to their problems. tailor your policy proposals to reduce the drive of people to mass murder innocent people not to restrict and ban inanimate objects protip then you'll have more success actually helping to reduce the problem instead failing to address it entirely Edited July 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 27 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: tailor your policy proposals to reduce the drive of people to mass murder innocent people not to restrict and ban inanimate objects protip then you'll have more success actually helping to reduce the problem instead failing to address it entirely So why don't you do that. And while you are at it, do more to stop giving them the tools to commit mass murders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Aristides said: So why don't you do that. And while you are at it, do more to stop giving them the tools to commit mass murders. I do, do that you are the one tunnel visioning on gun control because you have no real answers but want to virtue signal that you're "doing something" mass murderers are going to have access to tools they can commit mass murder with no matter how much gun control you implement focusing on that is a waste of resources to zero effect Edited July 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: I do that they are going to have access to tools they can commit mass murder with no matter how much gun control you implement focusing on that is a waste of resources to zero effect They don't have the same kind of access in other countries. FYI, the US is not the only country with mentally ill people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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