Government has no business in the bank accounts of Canadians

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

You’re right.  The planet will persist with or without humanity.  Don’t destroy humanity by supporting the Gaia dictatorship.  Carbon taxes are a tax on humanity, because everything we need to survive requires energy.  Keep energy and climate policies cheap.  Otherwise enslave and destroy humanity.  That’s green fascism.  Add woke policies that put representation above merit and we’re really screwing over humanity.  

the Holocaust was not the purpose of National Socialism

the purpose of National Socialism was a post scarcity utopia in a pristine wilderness

the Germans would flee their fetid cities by autobahn in order to frolic in it

the Holocaust was simply the result, it was simply ridding the regime of obstacles on the path to this Green utopia

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

I just listened to Jean Charest say that as Conservative leader he would support carbon taxes.  He also said he thought Polievre was wrong to stand with the protesters against federal vaccine mandates.  Charest and others like him are wrong.  They are fat cats who aren’t impacted by the anti-democratic moves of government against protesters and the carbon taxes that are crushing families in a time of high inflation. 

I don't normally blame conservatives for going soft on some issues that the media will completely flame them for, but Charest isn't one of those conservatives. He's just a liberal who's counting on the MSM to install him as the conservative leader imo. 

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Polievre wants to make Canada the freest country in the world.  He wants to end carbon taxes.  He wants to make Canada the crypto capital of the world where no government or organization can touch your stuff.  I’m with Polievre.

Amen.

I think that the world would benefit from seeing a hard-working, intelligent, smart, conservative black woman like Dr Lewis elected as a conservative leader but Pierre is just better right now IMO. 

[Zeitgeist]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't normally blame conservatives for going soft on some issues that the media will completely flame them for, but Charest isn't one of those conservatives. He's just a liberal who's counting on the MSM to install him as the conservative leader imo. 

Amen.

I think that the world would benefit from seeing a hard-working, intelligent, smart, conservative black woman like Dr Lewis elected as a conservative leader but Pierre is just better right now IMO. 

Have Lewis as the 2I.C., Deputy PM.  She’s strong.  

[eyeball]

49 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Black isn't exactly protected because his papers don't toe the line to the same extent that other sycophant media outlets do. That's why he can't get away with the same things that Pelosi, Biden, Trudeau, CTV, CBC et al do.

I repeat...what do your sources of truth have to say about the under-reported under-investigated allegations of corruption reported in the National Post?  Let me guess...fake news. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Black had two of the charges overturned and he was sentenced for a charge of mail fraud for which he received a three and a half year sentence.  He did his time and paid for his offence.  He later received a Presidential pardon.  The fact is he is one of the most successful and brilliant men in the world.  He built one of the largest newspaper chains in the world, Hollinder International, that owned countless newspapers.  He wrote books including a History of the U.S.A. which I read.  He received the Order of Canada in 1990 for his achievements.  He also was made a British Lord although the Canadian Liberal government under Jean Chretien would not accept it.  But that was likely because Black was a conservative and wrote conservative articles in his newspaper.  The Liberals resented it and were trying to get even.  That's how politics works.  Black's intellectual abilities far exceed anything you ever dreamed of and his achievements far beyond anything you ever heard of.  I understand your sadness because Black has no use for the evil left, liberalism and Socialism.  You condemn Black for his fraud conviction, but you blatantly support evil liberalism so you are nobody to judge Black for anything. What liberal politicians have been doing for years is far worse than what Black did.  What about the Sponsorship Scandal under Jean Chretien?  Scammed taxpayers out of millions of dollars.  When are they going to repay taxpayers?

It's difficult to respond to you when you don't differentiate between liberals and Liberals in your statements. You  could be just as easily saying Conservatives are illiberal and support the restriction of freedom and thought.

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[West]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Black had two of the charges overturned and he was sentenced for a charge of mail fraud for which he received a three and a half year sentence.  He did his time and paid for his offence.  He later received a Presidential pardon.  The fact is he is one of the most successful and brilliant men in the world.  He built one of the largest newspaper chains in the world, Hollinder International, that owned countless newspapers.  He wrote books including a History of the U.S.A. which I read.  He received the Order of Canada in 1990 for his achievements.  He also was made a British Lord although the Canadian Liberal government under Jean Chretien would not accept it.  But that was likely because Black was a conservative and wrote conservative articles in his newspaper.  The Liberals resented it and were trying to get even.  That's how politics works.  Black's intellectual abilities far exceed anything you ever dreamed of and his achievements far beyond anything you ever heard of.  I understand your sadness because Black has no use for the evil left, liberalism and Socialism.  You condemn Black for his fraud conviction, but you blatantly support evil liberalism so you are nobody to judge Black for anything. What liberal politicians have been doing for years is far worse than what Black did.  What about the Sponsorship Scandal under Jean Chretien?  Scammed taxpayers out of millions of dollars.  When are they going to repay taxpayers?

It's sad that they tried throwing the book at him while that criminal Justin Trudeau continues to use tax payer dollars as his personal piggybank

[eyeball]

44 minutes ago, West said:

It's sad that they tried throwing the book at him while that criminal Justin Trudeau continues to use tax payer dollars as his personal piggybank

Yes but its its patently clear now that corruption is good for Canadians and Justin Trudeau is really just setting an example we should all be following.

Grab as many dollars as you can while you can - get it while the getting is good or am I supposed to believe you cons actually do give a shit about future generations? ?

That'll be the day.

Edited April 10, 2022 by eyeball

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

I repeat...what do your sources of truth have to say about the under-reported under-investigated allegations of corruption reported in the National Post?  Let me guess...fake news. 

What specific fraud are you talking about?

I haven't heard anything about Conrad Black for years now, so if something big happened then I'm unaware of it. 

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yes but its its patently clear now that corruption is good for Canadians and Justin Trudeau is really just setting an example we should all be following.

Grab as many dollars as you can while you can - get it while the getting is good or am I supposed to believe you cons actually do give a shit about future generations? ?

That'll be the day.

Government isn’t there to infantilize you, make all your decisions for you, use you for whatever agenda it has, then find ways of ridding you when you can no longer contribute to the system.  Government intervention in our lives should be minimized.  We now see that when government takes on too many services, it gets easier to impose dictates on citizens.  If universal healthcare means health programs are mandated to enjoy basic rights, no thanks.  Outside a basic safety net, key public infrastructure and services that may be costly but are essential, such as defence and major transportation networks, etc., I don’t want government in my life.  I’m not interested in their opinions on my travel choices, what various special interest groups deserve, or what garb I’m allowed to wear.  Keep the Leviathan chained.  

Edited April 10, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[blackbird]

10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Thank God that Conrad Black is standing up for Canada and freedom.  He’s using his power for the public good.  Yes he’s wealthy as all get out.  Good for him.  

I sent an Email to him once and he actually sent me a reply.  Very few wealthy, powerful people would answer an Email from an ordinary guy.  

[Zeitgeist]

9 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I sent an Email to him once and he actually sent me a reply.  Very few wealthy, powerful people would answer an Email from an ordinary guy.  

He’s a great Canadian but he’s also a great capitalist.  It’s hard for some to put those two together.  The British House of Lords is lucky to have him.  He should be in our Senate.  I learned this year how valuable the Senate can be.  The people who build up the country should play a role in policy formation.  

[eyeball]

7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

What specific fraud are you talking about?

I'm talking about the massive money laundering that's alleged to be occurring on Trudeau's watch.

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I'm unaware of it.

Sure you are.

[eyeball]

7 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

If universal healthcare means health programs are mandated to enjoy basic rights, no thanks.  Outside a basic safety net, key public infrastructure and services that may be costly but are essential, such as defence and major transportation networks, etc.,

How about a 15% tax on laundered money? By some estimates that would bring in almost $20 billion annually.  There's something else for Conservatives to be hounding Trudeau about on a daily basis. Where's our cut? 

But maybe they figure that would make us less competitive and all that foreign investment would go somewhere else.

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I don’t want government in my life.

Then you should move to an asteroid.

[Zeitgeist]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

How about a 15% tax on laundered money? By some estimates that would bring in almost $20 billion annually.  There's something else for Conservatives to be hounding Trudeau about on a daily basis. Where's our cut? 

But maybe they figure that would make us less competitive and all that foreign investment would go somewhere else.

Then you should move to an asteroid.

How can you tax something that’s illegal?  

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

How can you tax something that’s illegal?  

Money laundering is illegal?   Huh...and all this time I thought it was just morally questionable.

/sarcoff

Edited April 11, 2022 by eyeball

[WestCanMan]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

I'm talking about the massive money laundering that's alleged to be occurring on Trudeau's watch.

Sure you are.

I thought that you were talking about Conrad Black because you mentioned fraud & the National Post together.

Do you have some sort of a link to what you're referring to? I don't mind reading it, whatever it is.

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

I thought that you were talking about Conrad Black because you mentioned fraud & the National Post together.

Do you have some sort of a link to what you're referring to? I don't mind reading it, whatever it is.

It's right there in the same post.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/terry-glavin-canadas-rankings-in-the-corruption-perceptions-index-have-plummeted-under-trudeau

[WestCanMan]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

How about a 15% tax on laundered money?

AKA, legalizing money laundering lol.

I'm sure that other countries will be ok with us profiting by helping their criminal syndicates launder the money that they make from committing crimes against their citizens and countries.

[eyeball]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

AKA, legalizing money laundering lol.

I'm sure that other countries will be ok with us profiting by helping their criminal syndicates launder the money that they make from committing crimes against their citizens and countries.

You guys all seem okay with it.  I've been referencing this story for a couple months now to little more than the sound of crickets.

I think the most honest answer to my oft-repeated question, why are Conservatives not raising these allegations on a daily basis, was from West.  Because the Conservatives drink from the same well.

 

[WestCanMan]

13 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's right there in the same post.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/terry-glavin-canadas-rankings-in-the-corruption-perceptions-index-have-plummeted-under-trudeau

I'm not sure what to even say about that.

Sure it's a big deal, but it just seems like garden-variety liberal politics. 

If it's not a big scandal when large sums of gov't money flow through WE to Trudeau's mom, at his solicitation, then I don't know how it ties to the fed gov't when random lawyers and corporations are being sleazy.

Edited April 11, 2022 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You guys all seem okay with it.  I've been referencing this story for a couple months now to little more than the sound of crickets.

I think the most honest answer to my oft-repeated question, why are Conservatives not raising these allegations on a daily basis, was from West.  Because the Conservatives drink from the same well.

It's a big deal, but Fentanyl is a much bigger deal and no one cares about that.

Beating peaceful protesters is a bigger deal.

The gov't unilaterally freezing people's bank accounts for basically nothing is a much bigger deal. It completely undermined faith in our banking system. 

Canada is becoming a racially divisive, fascist shithole country. I think that it's to be expected that there would be money laundering going on here. 

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I think that it's to be expected that there would be money laundering going on here. 

It's like selling fossil fuels or asbestos. Someone is going to do it so why shouldn't it be us?

So do you think Conservatives would be better at attracting this sort of lolly into Canada?  It seems Liberals are far more accomplished at corruption than Conservatives don't you think?

I can only imagine the hit our economy would take without $130 billion a year coming into it.

[Zeitgeist]

38 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's like selling fossil fuels or asbestos. Someone is going to do it so why shouldn't it be us?

So do you think Conservatives would be better at attracting this sort of lolly into Canada?  It seems Liberals are far more accomplished at corruption than Conservatives don't you think?

I can only imagine the hit our economy would take without $130 billion a year coming into it.

Ukraine is a major money laundering centre, which is another reason we have to be careful how we lend our support.  

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Ukraine is a major money laundering centre, which is another reason we have to be careful how we lend our support.

Why? Birds of a feather stick together.

[Zeitgeist]

13 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Why? Birds of a feather stick together.

Freeland is NOT a disinterested party on Ukraine, which is where a lot of sketchy activity is underway: Neo-Nazis, bio labs, money laundering… Do we know where those arms are going?  Zelensky locked up the opposition leader prior to the invasion.  I guess he did what our government dreams of doing.  Freezing the bank accounts of protesters is what dictators and kleptocracies try to do.

The losers in this are the regular Ukrainian people and their uninformed supporters, including Canadians.  Of course we want Ukrainians to be free and self-determining.  Let’s make sure that’s what’s getting supported.  

Edited April 11, 2022 by Zeitgeist