Government has no business in the bank accounts of Canadians

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

the elites now simply use the jackboots to put down any opposition or even dissent

What opposition?

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What opposition?

indeed

after decades of indoctrination

the population is now reflexively subservient to the totalitarian monitoring & correcting of their morality 

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

indeed

after decades of indoctrination

the population is now reflexively subservient to the totalitarian monitoring & correcting of their morality 

No, this is strictly a case of conservative subservience to their betters - heavily tinged with contempt for anyone who who doesn't share their subservience.  

[eyeball]

If corruption really is a grease without which our economy would falter conservatives should be thankful the Liberals are so good at it.

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, eyeball said:

in the news 

Stop calling it that.

[Zeitgeist]

57 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

indeed

after decades of indoctrination

the population is now reflexively subservient to the totalitarian monitoring & correcting of their morality 

And what happens if the ideas being inculcated are immoral or highly questionable?  Elders have literally handed land acknowledgments to read in organizations.  These demand reparations and make claims on land that is privately owned.  If you want to do land claims, go to court.  What about the new push to list gender pronouns under signatures or to address children in groups as people/friends instead of boys and girls in order to not offend nonbinary or people who identify as one of the over 100 new genders recently concocted like new flavours of ice cream?

Again, the vast majority of Canadians support individuals getting sex changes in cases of clear gender dysphoria, including myself.  The vast majority of Canadians support fair land claims and fixing water on reserves, including myself.

I don’t think most Canadians support throwing out Canada because of its colonial roots (Canada was more generous and accepting of people as a country than just about any country in 1867), people’s religious freedoms/expressions/worship, the right to protest government policies, or the right to medical discretion.  Either we uphold our constitutional rights and affirm the value of Canada as a free constitutional monarchy and liberal-democracy or we don’t.

We must not offer special privileges to certain groups based upon race or ethnicity.  We must remain a meritocracy.  We must also protect people’s privacy and enhance their opportunity.  

Edited April 10, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

We must not offer special privileges to certain groups based upon n race or ethnicity.  We must remain a meritocracy.  We must also protect people’s privacy and enhance their opportunity.  

none of that can be achieved within the confines of this failed Confederation

the corruption which drives the tyranny, is necessary, to hold the shotgun marriage Confederation together

[eyeball]

Bab's demonstrating the thankful stance all right thinking Canadians should be adopting towards their betters.

 

[Dougie93]

16 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, this is strictly a case of conservative subservience to their betters - heavily tinged with contempt for anyone who who doesn't share their subservience.  

the left is burning in a bonfire of its own absurdities

a counterrevolution is inevitable

it's just a matter of time until a very nasty right wing revanchist regime comes to power

then the leftist hunters will becomes the hunted

[Zeitgeist]

9 minutes ago, eyeball said:

If corruption really is a grease without which our economy would falter conservatives should be thankful the Liberals are so good at it.

Your thinking is very 1995.  In 1995 I would agree with you.  The Liberals had it mostly right back then, but they’ve lost the plot now.  They are fleecing Canadians financially and stripping constitutional rights.  Half the Conservatives are also unfortunately in line with these Liberal ideas.  I just listened to Jean Charest say that as Conservative leader he would support carbon taxes.  He also said he thought Polievre was wrong to stand with the protesters against federal vaccine mandates.  Charest and others like him are wrong.  They are fat cats who aren’t impacted by the anti-democratic moves of government against protesters and the carbon taxes that are crushing families in a time of high inflation.

Polievre wants to make Canada the freest country in the world.  He wants to end carbon taxes.  He wants to make Canada the crypto capital of the world where no government or organization can touch your stuff.  I’m with Polievre.  

[eyeball]

9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Stop calling it that.

What do your sources of truth have to say about these allegations of corruption?

[Zeitgeist]

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Bab's demonstrating the thankful stance all right thinking Canadians should be adopting towards their betters.

 

Thank God that Conrad Black is standing up for Canada and freedom.  He’s using his power for the public good.  Yes he’s wealthy as all get out.  Good for him.  

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Your thinking is very 1995.  In 1995 I would agree with you.  The Liberals had it mostly right back then

no they didn't, all the lunacy you see now was simply contained below the level of your notice at the time

but if you were serving in the army, you would have seen the vanguard of the Woke revolution arriving

[Zeitgeist]

5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

no they didn't, all the lunacy you see now was simply contained below the level of your notice at the time

but if you were serving in the army, you would have seen the vanguard of the Woke revolution arriving

Yes the seeds were there in Trudeau Senior slashing military spending and moving to that absurd uniform for all the forces.  It’s well documented in , “Who Killed the Canadian Military?  The Conservatives had a role too.  Diefenbaker deferred to the Yanks in the end.  At the end of the War Canada should’ve had a permanent seat on the Security Council.  Canada deserved it more than France, but in deferential self-abnegating Canadian fashion, we let others make the biggest decisions.  We had an important role in the Suez Crisis.  Pearson-Trudeau years brought some interesting peacenik third way ideas to our national identity, but we gave up some hard power that has undermined our soft power somewhat.  Trudeau Sr was a nationalist who tried to use multiculturalism to contain Quebec ethno-nationalism and make Canada more cosmopolitan and international in the era of Expo and Woodstock, but the seeds of post-national state were probably sown then.

We got lazy and forgot the fundamentals: protect your freedoms, way of life, economic prosperity, traditions, and great historic institutions, and ensure you have the military, trade relationships, and industrial/technological policies to defend it all.  Never become beholden to foreign powers, ideologically or economically.

We’re already quite beholden to the US, but unless we have representation in the US government and our population supports this, we have to maintain our own nation-state.  It’s worked quite well for a long time, but I don’t like Canada right now.  Too restrictive.  We’re losing our living standards and freedom to live as we like.  Get these totalitarian wannabes out of office!

[Dougie93]

Just now, Zeitgeist said:

Yes the seeds were there in Trudeau Senior slashing military spending and moving to that absurd uniform for all the forces. 

it was Somalia

Clayton Matchee murdered Shidane Arone

that was Canada's George Floyd moment

and the Airborne Regiment were the first Canadians to be demonized as "White Supremacists"

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

 “Who Killed the Canadian Military?"

it actually reached the threshold of mutiny in Petawawa

like the night they announced the Airborne Regiment would be disbanded

the Commandos were up in arms, they wrecked the Kyrenia Club, the RSM's pickup truck got burned

the Airborne guys were on the war path, they were enraged, I was just trying to stay out of their way

[Zeitgeist]

13 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

it was Somalia

Clayton Matchee murdered Shidane Arone

that was Canada's George Floyd moment

and the Airborne Regiment were the first Canadians to be demonized as "White Supremacists"

You’re right.  But if you look at what Canada had at the end of WW2 compared to now…Don’t do it.  We had it all. Two aircraft carriers and full marine capacity.  We were big and cutting edge.  We literally gave it away as we handed all our Nortel and Research In Motion tech to the Chinese and Americans.  Never forget that Canada invented the smart phone.  Never forget that the telephone was invented in Brantford, Ontario.  Do I mention Avro?   No, bury the evidence.  That’s what we constantly do in Canada, hand over the wealth and discoveries.  We’re the open source country where IP and resources are available to the highest bidder whether or not it serves the interests of Canadians.  Don’t mention our oil sands and compare how Norway has given its oil wealth to Norwegians as we sell our oil fields to China and refuse to buy our own oil or build Energy East.  It’s just terrible!

Edited April 10, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

Just now, Zeitgeist said:

You’re right.  But if you look at what Canada had at the end of WW2 compared to now…Don’t do it.  We had it all.  Two aircraft carriers and full marine capacity.  We were big and cutting edge.  We literally gave it away as we handed all our Nortel and Research In Motion tech to the Chinese and Americans.  Never forget that Canada invented the smart phone.  Never forget that the telephone was invented in Brantford, Ontario.  Do I mention Avro?   No, bury the the evidence.  That’s what we constantly do in Canada, hand over the wealth and discoveries.  We’re the open source country where IP and resources are available to the highest bidder whether or not it serves the interests of Canadians.  Don’t mention our oil sands and compare how Norway has given its oil wealth to Norwegians we we sell our oil fields to China and refuse to by our our oil or build Energy East.  It’s just terrible!

since the end of the Cold War, Canada has become isolationist, a Hermit Kingdom

so the only military mission is internal security to stave off a revolution

thus, no requirement for an aircraft carrier, nor any other overseas power projection asset

[blackbird]

16 hours ago, eyeball said:

This from the white collar criminal who was sent to jail on the basis and strength of video evidence catching him in the act of evading accountability.  The government of course, should have eyes on all the accounts of people with Conrad Black's wealth and ugly disposition towards accountability.  It is with the greatest irony that Conrad Black shamelessly bases his accusations of over-reach against the very low-hanging fruit of ordinary Canadians on the plight of poor hard-done by Russian oligarchs, who one presumes are as deserving of exemption from oversight as us and of course Black himself.

Black cites the lack of evidence of oligarch influence and alleged capacity to get Canadians to snow-wash their ill gotten gains to make his case which flies in the face of the most serious aspects of the allegations; that Canada's government is lax and even worse when it comes to intruding into this filthy disgraceful activity.

The real issue here is the under-reach of ordinary Canadians and above all else ordinary Canadians who identify as right-wing conservatives when it comes to making our governments more accountable about who they target and more to the point who they don't target with their 'over-reach'.

WTF is the matter with you people. You seem to go out of your way to make it as easy as possible for the ridiculously powerful and wealthy to get even more wealthy and powerful. How? By reducing transparency and accountability and of course shitting all over the left at every opportunity.

That said...look at the name at the end of the link I provided.  Why you people and the people you would elect carry so much water for this particular POS by remaining so silent about this particular issue at this particular time is beyond dystopian.

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?

Black had two of the charges overturned and he was sentenced for a charge of mail fraud for which he received a three and a half year sentence.  He did his time and paid for his offence.  He later received a Presidential pardon.  The fact is he is one of the most successful and brilliant men in the world.  He built one of the largest newspaper chains in the world, Hollinder International, that owned countless newspapers.  He wrote books including a History of the U.S.A. which I read.  He received the Order of Canada in 1990 for his achievements.  He also was made a British Lord although the Canadian Liberal government under Jean Chretien would not accept it.  But that was likely because Black was a conservative and wrote conservative articles in his newspaper.  The Liberals resented it and were trying to get even.  That's how politics works.  Black's intellectual abilities far exceed anything you ever dreamed of and his achievements far beyond anything you ever heard of.  I understand your sadness because Black has no use for the evil left, liberalism and Socialism.  You condemn Black for his fraud conviction, but you blatantly support evil liberalism so you are nobody to judge Black for anything. What liberal politicians have been doing for years is far worse than what Black did.  What about the Sponsorship Scandal under Jean Chretien?  Scammed taxpayers out of millions of dollars.  When are they going to repay taxpayers?

Edited April 10, 2022 by blackbird

[WestCanMan]

15 hours ago, eyeball said:

The only reason they can do this is because we let them ignore the best tastiest fruit at the top like Black and his buddies and instead target sour over-ripe low-hangers like dumb-ass truckers and yahoos.

Why are you carrying so much water for Trudeau by putting up with this?  I thought you guys were big on meaningful news stories that are under-reported and kept from Canadians.  There should be a Royal Commission looking into this and it should be front and center in the news just about all the time.

Black isn't exactly protected because his papers don't toe the line to the same extent that other sycophant media outlets do. That's why he can't get away with the same things that Pelosi, Biden, Trudeau, CTV, CBC et al do.

[Zeitgeist]

26 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

since the end of the Cold War, Canada has become isolationist, a Hermit Kingdom

so the only military mission is internal security to stave off a revolution

thus, no requirement for an aircraft carrier, nor any other overseas power projection asset

I don’t think our government knows what its doing or why, except to maintain power.  We’re being sold a story handed down by international organizations about a “climate crisis” that hasn’t happened and can’t be proven as human-made, but we have to strip human rights and reduce living standards to reduce our “carbon footprint”.   I drank and sold that Kool Aid big time.  I helped implement the Greater Golden Horseshoe Greenbelt Boundary.  I provided the first maps and proposals to governments.  I pushed to close the coal generating stations.  I have the newspaper articles and letters from ministers, premiers, and the Feds to prove it.  I personally invested in solar power.  I was as revolutionary green as they come, short of hanging Greenpeace banners on whaling ships.

Coal is pretty dirty and I’m glad those stations are gone. The government investments in solar and wind didn’t work.  Too many subsidies for too little power.  It ultimately makes states depended on fossil fuels unless you have better batteries and capacitors to store power.   It’s better to change building codes to require solar, wind, geothermal, etc. than it is to subsidize green tech.  These subsidies are paid often with carbon taxes, which are a tax on existence.  We need cheap energy to heat our homes, generate power, and have mobility in the second largest country in the world.

Carbon taxes on individuals are immoral.  Energy security is national security.  Energy must be as cheap and available as possible.  Beware of radical climate activists, especially from foreign organizations, as some of this activism is paid for by countries like Russia that are producing as much energy for export as possible.  We need to stop being suckers.  Cheap, sensible climate change policy is reasonable.

The Greenbelt is good but it has driven up land prices sky high in the GTA.  We must develop more towns and cities up north and across Canada — even to the south.  The north shore of Lake Erie is as long as the north shore of Lake Ontario and largely undeveloped.  

Edited April 10, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

23 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

 That’s what we constantly do in Canada, hand over the wealth and discoveries.

that is deeply ingrained in the DNA

as Canada is a collection of British Imperial colonies bound together in a Confederation

that Confederation has simply failed to launch as an actually independent Westphalian nation state

because the Canadian culture is the culture of colonists who serve Great Powers

the Confederation simply evolved from a British colony into an American colony

now the Americanization of Canada, the deep integration with America, is tearing the society apart

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I don’t think our government knows what its doing or why, except to maintain power.

true enough

hence why the ship is heading for the rocks

nobody is steering the ship, nobody is actually running the place, it is adrift on an ocean of pathological cronyism

[Dougie93]

11 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

  I was as revolutionary green as they come, short of hanging Greenpeace banners on whaling ships.

that was misguided I'm afraid

as beneath the veneer of Green is National Socialism

the Green's are the same witches brew of Nietzschean & Malthusian

Nietzsche + Malthus = Greta Hitlerjugend

God is dead, people are the problem

the Final Solution to a Master Race frolicking in a pristine wilderness, having liquidated all the filthy untermensch

Year Zero

[Zeitgeist]

6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

that was misguided I'm afraid

as beneath the veneer of Green is National Socialism

the Green's are the same witches brew of Nietzschean & Malthusian

Nietzsche + Malthus = Greta Hitlerjugend

God is dead, people are the problem

the Final Solution to a Master Race frolicking in a pristine wilderness, having liquidated all the filthy untermensch

Year Zero

You’re right.  The planet will persist with or without humanity.  Don’t destroy humanity by supporting the Gaia dictatorship.  Carbon taxes are a tax on humanity, because everything we need to survive requires energy.  Keep energy and climate policies cheap.  Otherwise enslave and destroy humanity.  That’s green fascism.  Add woke policies that put representation above merit and we’re really screwing over humanity.  

Edited April 10, 2022 by Zeitgeist