Russia's war crimes in Ukraine.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Mounting evidence of rape and murder coming out of previously occupied territories of Ukraine.

In one incident Russian soldiers entered a house where a couple lived with a child and shot the husband to death and took the young wife ro another house and raped her while threatening to kill her son if she resists. The wife was later interviewed by visiting journalists and Ukrainian police is filing charges with international police.

On another incident they found 25 girls between the age of 14 to 42. Russian soldiers raped them many times and told them they will raped them so many times so that they will never be able to have Ukrainian children.

On another incident two underage sisters were raped brutally by Russian soldiers.

And more atrocities by Russia in Ukraine.

 

Edited April 12, 2022 by CITIZEN_2015

[CITIZEN_2015]

Mass grave in Bucha dug up as evidence of war crimes by Russia mountng.

 

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[CITIZEN_2015]

Russian soldiers under Putin's command gang raped a 16 year old girl.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18114954/russian-rape-ukrainian-girl-intercepted-phone-calls/

 

[taxme]

On 4/3/2022 at 12:45 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

There has been many war crimes by Russia in Ukraine including Russian Army deliberately targeting and bombing civilians in which thousands of civilians have been murdered by Putin's invasion and likely by his order but the latest is a massacre in the town of Bucha in which dead civilians murdered by retreating Russian army lying in the streets is most disturbing.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60949706

In addition, women have been found naked and raped by Russian soldiers in other towns and cities .

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/russia-sexual-violence-reports-ukraine-b2049034.html

These are clear war crimes committed by Russia and under Putin's command deserve full punishment. 

Putin himself and his entire government and generals and those soldiers committing these crimes in Europe in 21st century must be found guilty and I hope their crimes will be punishable by death.

This coming from someone like you that was actually there at those Bucha killings? So, did you see all of those killings from the safety of your hotel room? The war crimes are being committed by the Ukranians. 

And of course you were also there to see all the rapes being committed by the Russian soldiers, right? Wow, you sure do get around, don't you? I think all that going around that you really do is what you see and hear on the leftist liberal lying MSM. I personally do believe that you know sweet dyk all as to what is really going on in Ukraine, right? Come on, tell the truth, lefty. LOL.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Ahh the crazy man spoke again. Have you done your taxes yet? I just ignore tha madman.

@others:

Another history of Russian war crimes in another country (Syria)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/02/russia-committed-war-crimes-in-syria-finds-un-report

This nation have been historically criminals. The birth place of criminals like Stalin and Putin and Lenin.

Edited April 17, 2022 by CITIZEN_2015

[CITIZEN_2015]

Ukraine's intelligence is going to publish the name of 1600 soldiers who committed mass murder and rape in Bucha.

https://kyivindependent.com/uncategorized/ukraines-intelligence-publishes-list-of-russian-military-stationed-in-bucha/

I hope every one of them caught and put on trial in international courts and if found guilty then brought to justice by hanging till death.

Edited April 19, 2022 by CITIZEN_2015

[CITIZEN_2015]

Mass graves are identified by Ukrainian officials outside the besieged city city of Mariupol are mounting  proof of Russian war crimes against the defenseless people of Ukraine.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/22/europe/mariupol-ukraine-russia-intl-hnk/index.html

 

The claim is supported by photos collected and analyzed by US satellite imagery company Maxar Technologies that appears to show more than 200 new graves at a site on the northwestern edge of Manhush, a town around 12 miles (19 kilometers) to the west of Mariupol.

 

[KirillMityugin]

The founder of “Azov” Biletsky is threatening people of Mariupol with another “Tochka-U” in case they decide to get together for Victory Day on May 9.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kramatorsk_railway_station_attack

59 people were killed and 109 wounded as a result of the attack

 

[CITIZEN_2015]

 

 

[Robert Salyers]

On 4/3/2022 at 3:45 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

There has been many war crimes by Russia in Ukraine including Russian Army deliberately targeting and bombing civilians in which thousands of civilians have been murdered by Putin's invasion and likely by his order but the latest is a massacre in the town of Bucha in which dead civilians murdered by retreating Russian army lying in the streets is most disturbing.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60949706

In addition, women have been found naked and raped by Russian soldiers in other towns and cities .

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/russia-sexual-violence-reports-ukraine-b2049034.html

These are clear war crimes committed by Russia and under Putin's command deserve full punishment. 

Putin himself and his entire government and generals and those soldiers committing these crimes in Europe in 21st century must be found guilty and I hope their crimes will be punishable by death.

Putin and any Russians who are guilty of war crimes need to face life in prison or being hanged depending on the event 

[Nationalist]

So it looks like this fine little Slavik war is grinding to an unremarkable end. The USA is sending a token mid-range launcher and some missiles. Nothing that can penetrate Russia though.

LOL...all that screaming, and money...for what?

I pre-determined outcome.

[August1991]

On 4/5/2022 at 10:43 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Russia has done it before. This has always been the nature of Russian army.

The Katyn massacre

 

The Katyn massacre was a series of mass executions of nearly 22,000 Polish military officers and intelligentsia carried out by the Soviet Union, specifically the NKVD ("People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs", the Soviet secret police) in April and May 1940.

As you note, the Katyn massacre referred to Polish-speaking people.

What does this have to do with Ukraine? Or the Soviet Union?

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As a tourist, I have visited Breslau, Lemberg, Krakau. Or my favourite, Czernowitz.

All wonderful cities still today - because they were part of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire.

Well, Breslau. Not. It was bombed.

Kiev? Not at all like western Ukraine. It was Russian. 

[August1991]

On 6/2/2022 at 4:44 PM, Nationalist said:

So it looks like this fine little Slavik war is grinding to an unremarkable end. The USA is sending a token mid-range launcher and some missiles. Nothing that can penetrate Russia though.

LOL...all that screaming, and money...for what?

I pre-determined outcome.

You predicted what exactly?

This Slavic war will have an unremarkable end?

====

Did the US Civil War have a predictable end?

Heck, is the comparison valid?

a) America exists for two centuries, has revolution, one civil war

b) Russia exists for 10 centuries, occupied for 2 centuries by foreign Mongols, invaded twice by western Europeans, has revolution, one civil war

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And these staff in the White House think that they can cause regime change in Russia, to defend the world QWERTY freedom to be.

Clueless. 

 

[Nationalist]

5 hours ago, August1991 said:

You predicted what exactly?

This Slavic war will have an unremarkable end?

====

Did the US Civil War have a predictable end?

Heck, is the comparison valid?

a) America exists for two centuries, has revolution, one civil war

b) Russia exists for 10 centuries, occupied for 2 centuries by foreign Mongols, invaded twice by western Europeans, has revolution, one civil war

======

And these staff in the White House think that they can cause regime change in Russia, to defend the world QWERTY freedom to be.

Clueless. 

 

Sorry...type-o. 

"A" predetermined outcome. 

Yes...unremarkable. geopolitics not your thing?

[August1991]

On 6/5/2022 at 10:26 AM, Nationalist said:

Sorry...type-o. 

"A" predetermined outcome. 

Yes...unremarkable. geopolitics not your thing?

You know "the" (or even "a") predetermined outcome?

I don't .

This could escalate to a horrific world war or it could result in a negotiated settlement where Putin and Zelenskyy - around 2030 or so - shake hands in Mariupol. We have seen this.

[August1991]

My general thinking is that this war in Ukraine was avoidable.

It has caused enormous suffering to ordinary people.

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Whatever Putin or any Russian State is, our politicians/bureaucrats in the West could have avoided this suffering.

[Yzermandius19]

On 6/5/2022 at 4:24 AM, August1991 said:

b) invaded twice by western Europeans

not twice

five times in the past 500 years

the Poles in 1605

the Swedes in 1707

the French in 1812

and the Germans twice, in 1914 and 1941

 

all came across the Northern European Plain to do so

guess which country Russia is at war with that sits on the Northern European Plain?

 

Edited June 7, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Nationalist]

Just thought I'd pop in to remind y'all that this war is all but over. Now even the Azovs are losing respect for Zielinski. 

It over...

[Yzermandius19]

31 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Just thought I'd pop in to remind y'all that this war is all but over. Now even the Azovs are losing respect for Zielinski. 

It over...

it's a stalemate

but far from over

[August1991]

2 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

it's a stalemate

but far from over

It's neither a stalemate nor over.

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Europeans fight every generation or so.

In the 1630s, it was about religion 

In 1790, Napoleon wanted to create a new society.

Around 1920, Hitler/Lenin wanted to create a new person.

====

IMHO, Europeans are violent people.

Every generation or so, once the males have forgotten, they start to fight each other again. 

Edited June 9, 2022 by August1991

[Yzermandius19]

11 minutes ago, August1991 said:

It's neither a stalemate nor over.

the lines haven't exactly moved very much in last two months

the Russians are making hardly any progress at all

it has bogged down into a WWI type affair

Edited June 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[August1991]

40 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

....

the Russians are making hardly any progress at all

....

Clueless.

===

1) Go read a newspaper report in fall 1914. "The Germans are not advancing."

2) Lvov? Its real name is Lemberg.

 

Edited June 9, 2022 by August1991

[Yzermandius19]

1 hour ago, August1991 said:

Clueless.

===

1) Go read a newspaper report in fall 1914. "The Germans are not advancing."

2) Lvov? Its real name is Lemberg.

 

and after 1914

the Germans didn't advance much on the western front

they did most of their advancing on western front before the Battle of the Marne

and got caught in a prolonged stalemate after that

the newspapers were right on that one

 

somewhat similarly the Russians haven't advanced much since the early days of this war

and their war plan like Germany in WWI, relied on a quick victory that doesn't get bogged down in a stalemate for success

and that didn't come to pass for Germany or Russia

 

your obsession with Lemberg is neither here nor there

you seem to bring it up constantly

to pretend that your historical knowledge is more robust than it actually is

Edited June 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Army Guy]

On 6/7/2022 at 12:51 AM, August1991 said:

You know "the" (or even "a") predetermined outcome?

I don't .

This could escalate to a horrific world war or it could result in a negotiated settlement where Putin and Zelenskyy - around 2030 or so - shake hands in Mariupol. We have seen this.

This will never end until the free world decides to end it, NATO needs to stop letting Russia blackmail it into taking what they want because of the nuclear wpn exchange... This is just the start and no one can say with any guarantee it will stop at Ukraine when it has already been warned by Sweden and Finland about joining NATO with actions.

Why would Ukraine settle for anything less than a total return of all lands and territory that Russia has already taken now and in the past? Russia has crossed the line, and a message has to be sent, that the free world is not going to tolerate land grabs from any nuclear-equipped nation. Are all the other nations up for grabs now, take what ever you want. What is the point of having an alliance if we are not going to use it? 

[August1991]

On 6/9/2022 at 1:16 PM, Army Guy said:

This will never end until the free world decides to end it, NATO needs to stop letting Russia blackmail it into taking what they want because of the nuclear wpn exchange... This is just the start and no one can say with any guarantee it will stop at Ukraine when it has already been warned by Sweden and Finland about joining NATO with actions.

Why would Ukraine settle for anything less than a total return of all lands and territory that Russia has already taken now and in the past? Russia has crossed the line, and a message has to be sent, that the free world is not going to tolerate land grabs from any nuclear-equipped nation. Are all the other nations up for grabs now, take what ever you want. What is the point of having an alliance if we are not going to use it? 

Army Guy, I disagree.

1) I reckon that Putin will accept a negotiated settlement when it is recognised that Crimea and so-called Eastern Ukraine are part of Russia.

2) I reckon that Zelenskiyy will accept a negotiated settlement when western Ukrainians stop volunteering.