West Posted March 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, Boges said: AND Islam is not a nationality. Afghanistan was a Muslim state... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 25 minutes ago, Faramir said: So you think its OK to punish ethnic Russians for Putins aggression. Did it ever occur to you they came here to escape Putin's Russia. Who said anything about punishing ethnic Russians? I have said I want Putin and his generals hanged and to achieve that the West must impose significantly more sanctions and armed Ukraine significantly more with advanced defensive weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, West said: But it's okay to starve people out for sharing the same passport as Vladamir Putin? Yes make it hard for them so that they realize the way out is to hang Putin and his regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, West said: Afghanistan was a Muslim state... Yes but you're conflating Islam with the actions of the Taliban. I would suggest someone that has sympathetic views towards the Taliban, and their ideology, like forcing a woman to wear a Burkha, or preventing women from attending school , would find difficulty finding mainstream acceptance in much of the Western World. Some might find sympathy simply because they don't want to seem racist. But I would oppose that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted March 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 17 minutes ago, Boges said: Yes but you're conflating Islam with the actions of the Taliban. I would suggest someone that has sympathetic views towards the Taliban, and their ideology, like forcing a woman to wear a Burkha, or preventing women from attending school , would find difficulty finding mainstream acceptance in much of the Western World. Some might find sympathy simply because they don't want to seem racist. But I would oppose that as well. I don't know about that. Trudeau won a majority in 2015 in no small part because of Harper's "barbaric practices" hotline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted March 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Yes make it hard for them so that they realize the way out is to hang Putin and his regime. Starving people until they kill someone. Sounds like the next Hunger Games plot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, West said: I don't know about that. Trudeau won a majority in 2015 in no small part because of Harper's "barbaric practices" hotline I don't agree with that. JT had a lot of hype going for him in 2015. But I'll concede there's a faction of the Left that will always show sympathy to more arcane Muslim practices out of deference to a racial minority. Which I don't agree with. Those same people can be equally appalled by Putin's treatment of the people of Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faramir Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 These attacks on ethnic Russians might change my earlier revelation that Canadians are actually decent people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Faramir said: These attacks on ethnic Russians might change my earlier revelation that Canadians are actually decent people. Anyone can get worked up about isolated anecdotes. Do we have evidence that discrimination against Russians (in the West, not in Russia) is common? Should we get worked up about stuff like this as well? https://globalnews.ca/news/8650770/ukraine-flag-incident-york-region/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 hours ago, West said: I can't help but wonder if Russiophobia is one of those "acceptable views" that Trudeau was talking about I can't help but wonder at how easily you've been duped by Vladimir Putin's propaganda machine. Maybe you watch too much Tucker Carlson. The ease at which you slurp nonsensical Russian and Chinese sources whilst dismissing anything from anywhere else in the world is beyond pathetic. Anyone who cries about freedom in Canada while boosting Putin's regime and parroting their (and Chinese) propaganda is morally stunted. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faramir Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 36 minutes ago, Boges said: Anyone can get worked up about isolated anecdotes. Do we have evidence that discrimination against Russians (in the West, not in Russia) is common? Should we get worked up about stuff like this as well? https://globalnews.ca/news/8650770/ukraine-flag-incident-york-region/ Fair point. But are they also refusing to honor athletes in the Olympics? So its not just Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faramir Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 32 minutes ago, Moonbox said: I can't help but wonder at how easily you've been duped by Vladimir Putin's propaganda machine. Maybe you watch too much Tucker Carlson. The ease at which you slurp nonsensical Russian and Chinese sources whilst dismissing anything from anywhere else in the world is beyond pathetic. Anyone who cries about freedom in Canada while boosting Putin's regime and parroting their (and Chinese) propaganda is morally stunted. Tucker Carlson is pointing out there globalists have an agenda here. All out war with Russia. Bad guys on both sides. But at least you admit the Chinese are also the bad guys. So many liberals like to pretend the Chinese are our friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Faramir said: Tucker Carlson is pointing out there globalists have an agenda here. Tucker Carlson is a toxic asshole and little/nothing of what he says is worth repeating. 1 minute ago, Faramir said: All out war with Russia. Bad guys on both sides. Except it's not all-out war with Russia. It's an all-out invasion of Ukraine by Russia, with the West supporting them however they can without (hopefully) starting WW3. 1 minute ago, Faramir said: But at least you admit the Chinese are also the bad guys. So many liberals like to pretend the Chinese are our friends. The Chinese and the Russian regimes are peas in a pod. It's no surprise that China's thrown their support behind Russia, and that should tell you lots about what's going on in Putin's Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted March 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 31 minutes ago, Faramir said: Tucker Carlson is pointing out there globalists have an agenda here. All out war with Russia. Bad guys on both sides. But at least you admit the Chinese are also the bad guys. So many liberals like to pretend the Chinese are our friends. Exactly. Tucker is one of the more sensible people on American television. Pretty much everyone else demands blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, West said: Exactly. Tucker is one of the more sensible people on American television. Pretty much everyone else demands blood. HAHAHAH! Tucker Carlson is sensible...Putin's #1 cheerleader in the USA. This is comedy gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted March 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Moonbox said: HAHAHAH! Tucker Carlson is sensible...Putin's #1 cheerleader in the USA. This is comedy gold. So he opposes war with a nuclear power (common sense) and is a Putin stooge ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) Everyone opposes war with nuclear powers. That's why every Russian plane over Ukraine doesn't get shot out of the sky. The disparity in airpower between NATO and Russia is immense. Putin invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. Edited March 11, 2022 by Moonbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted March 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Moonbox said: Everyone opposes war with nuclear powers. That's why every Russian plane over Ukraine doesn't get shot out of the sky. The disparity in airpower between NATO and Russia is immense. Putin invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. And your belief is that anyone who disagrees with your views on cancelling the concert of a Russian musician with no ties to Vladamir Putin because Putin is a bad bad bad man is somehow a Kremlin plant? Sounds like you need some meds ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, West said: And your belief is that anyone who disagrees with your views on cancelling the concert of a Russian musician with no ties to Vladamir Putin because Putin is a bad bad bad man is somehow a Kremlin plant? There's that moral equivalency again. Putin invading a sovereign nation of 44 million and shelling their cities is...fine, but cancelling a Russian musician's concert is OUTRAGEOUS. 1 minute ago, West said: Sounds like you need some meds ? No words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted March 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Moonbox said: There's that moral equivalency again. Putin invading a sovereign nation of 44 million and shelling their cities is...fine, but cancelling a Russian musician's concert is OUTRAGEOUS. No words. The only one trying to draw an equivalency is you... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) You don't even understand what the term means. If you did, you wouldn't be on here complaining about some Russian dude's concert being cancelled while his country's leadership invades Ukraine and murders its people. As far as "but but but..." arguments go, this was one of the dumbest and limpest you could have possibly come up with. Go back to Telegram and see if Putin's bots can give you something better. Edited March 11, 2022 by Moonbox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted March 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, Moonbox said: You don't even understand what the term means. If you did, you wouldn't be on here complaining about some Russian dude's concert being cancelled while his country's leadership invades Ukraine and murders its people. As far as "but but but..." arguments go, this was one of the dumbest and limpest you could have possibly come up with. Go back to Telegram and see if Putin's bots can give you something better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 Can we infer from your pro-Putin boosting that you're also bullish on China and the CCP? Best of friends now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 5 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Russiophobia is as a direct result of murderous actions by Russian governments and Russian armies over the past many years and centuries and is very legitimate and has nothing to d with Trudeau. The whole world criticizing these murderous actions. I have to write a book to even summarize murderous actions by various Russian governments but I only summarized the most recent, Colonizing half the Europe for over half a century sponsoring the most oppressive governments in Eastern Europe Occupation of Afghanistan and killing of many civilians there even the use of toy bombs to specifically target and kill children. Killing of civilians in Chechnya and Georgia by Putin regime including the use of cluster bombs Invasion of Ukraine and indiscriminate bombing and killing of civilians. Their history is full of murders and killers killing even their own people who dared to oppose like Stalin did with his opponents. Russian army commits many rapes against defenseless civilians every time they occupy a territory. Uh, ok, so then islamophobia is acceptable too? They've committed 2 massive genocides in the past 50 years, plus a minor one in Yuogoslavia. They commit 95% of the terrorist attacks on earth. The bigotry inside the countries that they control makes Russia look like an LGBTQ utopia, and all of that violence, religious bigotry and homophobia stems right from their prophet himself. Is islamophobia ok too now C'15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: And yet people defend them on here. They have a right to live in peace, and Ukraine was a dire threat to that. They didn't have to choose that route but they did. Your inability to have understanding for other people's situations is duly noted. Quote I don't feel moral revulsion often, No but you're the cause of it for anyone with an IQ over 70. Your amorality is duly noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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