War In Ukraine

[Yzermandius19]

6 minutes ago, athos said:

Russia releases video of  Moscow car bomber

Vovk, 43, was named by the FSB on Monday as the prime suspect in the assassination of Dugina. The Ukrainian national arrived in Russia on July 23, using Donetsk People’s Republic license plates to avoid scrutiny. While in Moscow, she swapped the plates on her Mini Cooper to those of Kazakhstan, a friendly former Soviet republic. On Sunday, after the bombing, Vovk drove to Estonia with Ukrainian plates, the FSB said.

 

 

https://cdnv.russiatoday.com/files/2022.08/6303941120302709997a719a.mp4?download=1

 

a Ukrainian certainly makes sense

however, if it was or wasn't

the FSB would blame one anyway

Edited August 23, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

10 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

if you are seriously asking this question

you know even less about Russia than I think you do

the FSB are the former KGB rebranded

 

FSB doesn't get thrown around with the same flair as KGB and NKVD.

"FSB??? Flight Safety Board?"

[Yzermandius19]

12 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Yes the FSB and SBU (Ukrainian secret service) have the same father in a way = KGB.

This is why you will notice certain mind warfare techniques are similar. Now the battlefield is social media.

indeed

first it was the NKVD

then it rebranded as the KGB

then it was rebranded as the FSB

and as you can see

simply rebranding is enough to fool the ignorant into thinking it's an entirely different product

so the baggage of the old name doesn't sully it's reputation

 

Edited August 23, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[athos]

6 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

a Ukrainian certainly makes sense

however, if it was or wasn't

the FSB would blame one anyway

Now Ukraine is considered a state sponsor of terrorists along with its Western Anglo-Khazarian mentors.

[Yzermandius19]

6 minutes ago, athos said:

Now Ukraine is considered a state sponsor of terrorists along with its Western Anglo-Khazarian mentors.

Russia is a state sponsor of terrorists

the things you point fingers at the West for

Russia is far more guilty of

you throw stones from a glass house

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

if you are seriously asking this question

you know even less about Russia than I think you do

the FSB are the former KGB rebranded

OK...and who the hell might sympathize with them?

Oh wait...it's early and took a minute to sink in. The original post was made by a tweenkie who equates anyone who sees the reality of that little war to this FSB.

Lol...such childishness.

Moving on...

Edited August 23, 2022 by Nationalist

[Yzermandius19]

27 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

OK...and who the hell might sympathize with them?

Oh wait...it's early and took a minute to sink in. The original post was made by a tweenkie who equates anyone who sees the reality of that little war to this FSB.

Lol...such childishness.

Moving on...

how can you possibly see the reality of the war

when you know so little about Russia

that you didn't even know who the FSB was?

you can't

yet you act like you know so much more than everyone who does know who the FSB is

you're a clown, talking out of your ass, about shit you know nothing about

you think you're an expert just because you distrust western media

while being a total sucker for Russian media narratives

it's pathetic

Edited August 23, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Nationalist]

24 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

how can you possibly see the reality of the war

when you know so little about Russia

that you didn't even know who the FSB was?

you can't

yet you act like you know so much more than everyone who does know who the FSB is

you're a clown, talking out of your ass, about shit you know nothing about

you think you're an expert just because you distrust western media

while being a total sucker for Russian media narratives

it's pathetic

Russia - Large nation with HUGE military.

Ukraine - Ex-Russian province with very small military.

Pretty simple to figure out...for one who does not sit on his brain that is...

[Yzermandius19]

19 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Russia - Large nation with HUGE military.

Ukraine - Ex-Russian province with very small military.

Pretty simple to figure out...for one who does not sit on his brain that is...

well you're sitting on your brain

so I guess that explains why you can't figure it out

Russia might have a large military

but it's quite incompent and can't properly leverage that advantage as a result

especially in Ukraine

Russia has barely gained any ground in months

and that is during favorable weather conditions for the invader

which won't last much longer

 

you seem to think the largest military always wins

when history is replete with examples of larger militaries losing to smaller militaries

being a bigger military is hardly a guarantee of victory

but naturally, your ignorant and simplistic analysis fails to take that into account

you think war is a simple as, whoever has the largest population and military wins

Edited August 23, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Nationalist]

24 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

So wait, you know the reality of this war without knowing even the basics of the geo-politics in the area?

I thought you were kidding about not knowing who the FSB is, google it instead of listening to those right wingers you listen to that make money over division. While you are at it, also learn about the Okhrana which were the secret police of the Russian tsars. 

That is the problem with nationalistic ideology in my view, their soldiers only need their marching orders and anything outside their comfort zone is "liberals" "traitors" "tweenkies" "etc". No different than those communists you so detest. They just use opposite words. 

Now work time, Soros does not pay my bills. 

See my last post. Common sense. You might wanna try it.

Edited August 23, 2022 by Nationalist

[Nationalist]

20 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

well you're sitting on your brain

so I guess that explains why you can't figure it out

Russia might have a large military

but it's quite incompent and can't properly leverage that advantage as a result

especially in Ukraine

Russia has barely gained any ground in months

and that is during favorable weather conditions for the invader

which won't last much longer

 

you seem to think the largest military always wins

when history is replete with examples of larger militaries losing to smaller militaries

being a bigger military is hardly a guarantee of victory

but naturally, your ignorant and simplistic analysis fails to take that into account

you think war is a simple as, whoever has the largest population and military wins

Has it ever occurred to you that Russia doesn't want to level all of Ukraine?

Of course not. The MSN hasn't said as such...its not possible.

DUH!

[Yzermandius19]

8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Has it ever occurred to you that Russia doesn't want to level all of Ukraine?

Of course not. The MSN hasn't said as such...its not possible.

DUH!

have you ever considered that small parts of Ukraine aren't Russia's main aim?

of course not, the Russia bots haven't said as much...its not possible

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

have you ever considered that small parts of Ukraine aren't Russia's main aim?

of course not, the Russia bots haven't said as much...its not possible

Every day laddie. And they have stated that. But hey...why address truth when a lie suits your purposes.

[Yzermandius19]

31 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Every day laddie. And they have stated that. But hey...why address truth when a lie suits your purposes.

Russia wouldn't lie to save face

they always tell the truth about their war aims

#believethepropaganda

Edited August 23, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Russia wouldn't lie to save face

they always tell the truth about their war aims

#believethepropaganda

Errr...

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Asked by a reporter July 8, “Do you see any parallels between this withdrawal and what happened in Vietnam,” Biden was indignant. “None whatsoever. Zero.”

 

[Yzermandius19]

9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Errr...

Biden lying about Afghanistan doesn't mean Putin is telling the truth about Russian aims in Ukraine

the West lying doesn't mean Russia is telling the truth

total non-sequitur

in this case, the enemy of the enemy is far from a friend

stop being an anti-western reactionary

who supports everything they are against and hates everything they support

without thinking

the West not liking Russia doesn't make them the good guys in this war

don't be such a simpleton

Edited August 23, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Nationalist]

17 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Biden lying about Afghanistan doesn't mean Putin is telling the truth about Russian aims in Ukraine

the West lying doesn't mean Russia is telling the truth

total non-sequitur

in this case, the enemy of the enemy is far from a friend

stop being an anti-western reactionary who supports everything they are against without thinking

I'm not an "anti-western reactionary". I want the western world to be allowed to freely enjoy the affluence our forefathers built. I'm an anti-globalist reactionary. And anti-climate change reactionary. An advocate for common sense and an end to this fear-porn crap of the Libbies.

Quote

Launching the invasion on 24 February he told the Russian people his goal was to "demilitarise and de-Nazify Ukraine". His declared aim was to protect people subjected to what he called eight years of bullying and genocide by Ukraine's government. Another objective was soon added: ensuring Ukraine's neutral status .

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56720589

Now...because the twits in NATO have decided the Ukrainian Neo-Nazis are nicer bed-fellows than the Russians, the first objective is likely going to have to happen internally in Ukraine. However...NATO is finally seeing what sort of creeps they've been propping up.

The second goal has remained static.

 

NEXT...

Edited August 23, 2022 by Nationalist

[Yzermandius19]

9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I'm not an "anti-western reactionary". I want the western world to be allowed to freely enjoy the affluence our forefathers built. I'm an anti-globalist reactionary. And anti-climate change reactionary. An advocate for common sense and an end to this fear-porn crap of the Libbies.

Now...because the twits in NATO have decided the Ukrainian Neo-Nazis are nicer bed-fellows than the Russians, the first objective is likely going to have to happen internally in Ukraine. However...NATO is finally seeing what sort of creeps they've been propping up.

The second goal has remained static.

 

NEXT...

try not being a reactionary

being reactionary means that you derive your opinion based on the opinion of the thing you are reactionary to

being an anti-globalist reactionary means the globalists need merely take a position where they make opposing opinion look stupid

and you'll take up that opinion falling right into their trap

you are literally allowing the globalists to choose your opinion for you, by being a reactionary to them

do you really want to give them that kind of power over you?

Edited August 23, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

Ukraine's cozy attitude towards actual Nazis is disturbing. The main drag in Kiev is actually named after Stephan Bandera...for example. The Krauts don't go so far as to have Hitler Street or Herman Goering Blvd. 
.

 

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

try not being a reactionary

being reactionary means that you derive your opinion based on the opinion of the thing you are reactionary to

being an anti-globalist reactionary means the globalists need merely take a position where they make opposing opinion look stupid

and you'll take up that opinion falling right into their trap

you are literally the globalists to choose your opinion for you, by being a reactionary

do you really want to give them that kind of power over you?

No. I want them to stop their destructive ideas and methods.

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Ukraine's cozy attitude towards actual Nazis is disturbing. The main drag in Kiev is actually named after Stephan Bandera...for example. The Krauts don't go so far as to have Hitler Street or Herman Goering Blvd. 
.

 

That reminds me...when did KIEV become KEEV and why? Even Ukrainians I know call it KIEV. WTF???

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No. I want them to stop their destructive ideas and methods.

then being a reactionary is the least effective way to do that

if they say drinking water is good for you

you aren't hurting them by never drinking water again and denouncing drinking water to the world

and it undermines your cause

Edited August 23, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Nationalist said:

That reminds me...when did KIEV become KEEV and why? Even Ukrainians I know call it KIEV. WTF???

 

More language manipulation to keep your head spinning.

 

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

then being a reactionary is the least effective way to do that

if they say drinking water is good for you

you aren't hurting them by never drinking water again and denouncing drinking water to the world

and it undermines your cause

Errr...shall we agree to remain within the bounds of common sense please?

[Yzermandius19]

7 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Errr...shall we agree to remain within the bounds of common sense please?

it is common sense to not allow your political opposition to choose your opinion for you

one the big mistakes the left made was being too reactionary to Trump

and letting him choose their opinions for them

you are falling into the same trap

by being too reactionary to the globalists

reactionaries are just lazy thinkers who just oppose whatever view the opposition has without thinking

just as lazy thinkers as those who believe everything their side says without thinking

both are NPC's

don't be an NPC just to stick it the other sides NPC's

that isn't helping

Edited August 23, 2022 by Yzermandius19