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39 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but Trudeau is Canada

that's what Canada is

the Liberals are the Natural Governing Party

and the Trudeau family has now ruled Canada for half my life

even when they weren't in office, the Trudeau's were still ruling Canada from behind the scenes

Pierre was a very good politician and will go down in history as one of our greatest PMs. Not that everything he did was positive, but he was successful. As for Li'l Justin...pfft. A failure at governing.

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11 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I can understand that. Its a sad state of affairs.

I none the less uphold my oaths & obligations to the Crown

I obey the laws, I pay my taxes, I follow the constitution to the letter

but it's just quid pro quo now, the conditions of citizenship & residense

I don't feel any love for the state therein

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14 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Pierre was a very good politician and will go down in history as one of our greatest PMs. Not that everything he did was positive, but he was successful. As for Li'l Justin...pfft. A failure at governing.

Justin is getting his agenda passed

that is the definition of success for a politician

what policy from his agenda has Justin failed to get passed ?

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42 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

 Not that everything he did was positive

he Amalgamated the military, wiped it out and replaced it

he imposed the National Energy Program, to wreck Alberta's energy economy

he cozied up to the Communists to try to stick it to America

he incited an inflation crisis by massive government overspending

then he ignored the nationwide protests against his agenda

he even had to be propped up by the NDP for awhile to get his agenda passed

sounds pretty Justin like to me

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55 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

 but he was successful.

I would argue that even his supposed crowning achievement, the Charter of Rights & Freedoms, has been a failure

because any time someone tries to invoke their constitutional rights in Canada, in a crisis

the government simply invokes Section 1 and/or Section 33 to negate that

in theory, on paper, you supposedly have rights

but in practice, if you try to use them, these two trap doors spring out from under your feet

the constitution is supposed to protect the individual against the rule of a mob

but the mob that rules Canada is the Liberals

and if you ever defy them ; suddenly you have no rights at all

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1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

Justin is getting his agenda passed

that is the definition of success for a politician

what policy from his agenda has Justin failed to get passed ?

We have different measuring sticks.

I measure by favourable outcomes for the citizenry.

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19 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I would argue that even his supposed crowning achievement, the Charter of Rights & Freedoms, has been a failure

because any time someone tries to invoke their constitutional rights in Canada, in a crisis

the government simply invokes Section 1 and/or Section 33 to negate that

in theory, on paper, you supposedly have rights

but in practice, if you try to use them, these two trap doors spring out from under your feet

the constitution is supposed to protect the individual against the rule of a mob

but the mob that rules Canada is the Liberals

and if you ever defy them ; suddenly you have no rights at all

This is unfortunately true when we have a PM who has no qualms about abusing his powers.

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Just now, Nationalist said:

We have different measuring sticks.

I measure by favourable outcomes for the citizenry.

I don't know what those outcomes would be

basically the whole Trudeau agenda was a disaster

but it was bailed out in the end by Free Trade

it was hard times in Canada

until Canada integrated with the American markets

it's really America which makes Ontario prosperous

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Just now, Dougie93 said:

I don't know what those outcomes would be

basically the whole Trudeau agenda was a disaster

but it was bailed out in the end by Free Trade

it was hard times in Canada

until Canada integrated with the American markets

it's really America which makes Ontario prosperous

Yes...we are slaved to the US economy. We are also slaved to China.

Neither situation is optimal. We have enough resources to stand on our own and do business with those who deal fairly.

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3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Yes...we are slaved to the US economy. We are also slaved to China.

Neither situation is optimal. We have enough resources to stand on our own and do business with those who deal fairly.

the problem for Canada is that America doesn't need Canada's resources

America has all those resources too and is a net exporter of them

only China needs Canada's resources

and that is how China has gotten its hooks into Canada

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4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

the problem for Canada is that America doesn't need Canada's resources

America has all those resources too and is a net exporter of them

only China needs Canada's resources

and that is how China has gotten its hooks into Canada

Well...as far as I'm concerned, China can go to Hell.

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3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Unfortunate but true.

The best we can do is trash the legacy of Pixie-Dust.

I don't see him as the cause, I see him as the result

the nature of Canada is elitism

Canada loves the elites

while Canada despises the hoi polloi

that is the Canadian culture, deeply ingrained

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37 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

The best we can do is trash the legacy of Pixie-Dust.

seems to me the legacy is trashing Canada

case in point, look at this lunacy here

this is Canada, this is what governance in Canada is all about :

FIRST READING: Public Health Agency of Canada report calls for toppling of 'capitalism and liberty'

The report's all-white authors identified themselves as 'uninvited land occupiers,' before calling for the wholesale 'decolonization' of society in the interest of public health

A new Health Canada report suggests public health officials should be openly advocating for the toppling of capitalism, Western society and even the very concept of “liberty and individualism”

The paper — written by three authors who “identify as white settlers” — also recommended that Canadian public health actions should focus on “decolonization, justice and equity” above all.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/public-health-agency-of-canada-report-calls-for-toppling-of-capitalism-liberty

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25 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

seems to me the legacy is trashing Canada

case in point, look at this lunacy here

this is Canada, this is what governance in Canada is all about :

FIRST READING: Public Health Agency of Canada report calls for toppling of 'capitalism and liberty'

The report's all-white authors identified themselves as 'uninvited land occupiers,' before calling for the wholesale 'decolonization' of society in the interest of public health

A new Health Canada report suggests public health officials should be openly advocating for the toppling of capitalism, Western society and even the very concept of “liberty and individualism”

The paper — written by three authors who “identify as white settlers” — also recommended that Canadian public health actions should focus on “decolonization, justice and equity” above all.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/public-health-agency-of-canada-report-calls-for-toppling-of-capitalism-liberty

Yup. The Woke and Pixie-Dust are openly attacking the foundations of this country.

Yet those of us who realize this, are supposed to stay silent and suck it up.

"The world is changing. You need to change with it."

No...what you're doing is destructive nonsense.

This kaka has got to be disposed of.

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8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Yup. The Woke and Pixie-Dust are openly attacking the foundations of this country.

Yet those of us who realize this, are supposed to stay silent and suck it up.

"The world is changing. You need to change with it."

No...what you're doing is destructive nonsense.

This kaka has got to be disposed of.

but even if the Conservatives can win

this Communism ( funded by the Chinese Communists ) is deeply entrenched

the unions will fight the Conservatives tooth & nail, and the unions will win

then the Conservatives will get thrown out, under a relentless assault by the state media propaganda arms

then away we go again

I've been through this cycle too many times now,

not to see that it is actually the nature of Canada, not an aberration

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10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but even if the Conservatives can win

this Communism ( funded by the Chinese Communists ) is deeply entrenched

the unions will fight the Conservatives tooth & nail, and the unions will win

then the Conservatives will get thrown out, under a relentless assault by the state media propaganda arms

then away we go again

I've been through this cycle too many times now,

not to see that it is actually the nature of Canada, not an aberration

Not this Canadian. My nature is to side with what's "best" for Canada...and the crap the Libbies have been dishing out, is not "best" for Canada.

This is why I get so wound up sometimes. These freaks are destroying everything they touch.

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44 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

 My nature is to side with what's "best" for Canada...

I'm not saying that a proxy war between great powers is a good thing

I'm not advocating for the Democrats concept of operations, at all

all I'm saying is, deterrence has failed, by misapprehension, miscalculation and/or mistake

we are now at war with Russia for all intents and purposes

and Canada signed up for that, long ago

as signatories to the 1949 Washington Treaty ( NATO )

and the United Kingdom United States Security Agreement ( FVEY )

this is where my oath to HM King Charles III binds me

I don't have to be loyal to the Confederation

but I am bound by oath to defend the monarch from the Russians by way of NATO & FVEY

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1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

This is why I get so wound up sometimes. These freaks are destroying everything they touch.

I declaim it as totalitarian Communist lunacy

and as such, I just don't identify with the Confederation which made them

I still feel like an Upper Canadian Loyalist

but the rest of Canada is alien to me now

now I know what the Quebec Nationalists want and why they want that

and now I want what they want too,

I just want to hold on to my British heritage & governance like they want to theirs

I want what French Canada wants for British Canada

which is autonomy from the Confederation, a much weaker Confederation without all this centralized power

 

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