Nationalist Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 39 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: but Trudeau is Canada that's what Canada is the Liberals are the Natural Governing Party and the Trudeau family has now ruled Canada for half my life even when they weren't in office, the Trudeau's were still ruling Canada from behind the scenes Pierre was a very good politician and will go down in history as one of our greatest PMs. Not that everything he did was positive, but he was successful. As for Li'l Justin...pfft. A failure at governing. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I can understand that. Its a sad state of affairs. I none the less uphold my oaths & obligations to the Crown I obey the laws, I pay my taxes, I follow the constitution to the letter but it's just quid pro quo now, the conditions of citizenship & residense I don't feel any love for the state therein Quote
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Pierre was a very good politician and will go down in history as one of our greatest PMs. Not that everything he did was positive, but he was successful. As for Li'l Justin...pfft. A failure at governing. Justin is getting his agenda passed that is the definition of success for a politician what policy from his agenda has Justin failed to get passed ? Quote
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Not that everything he did was positive he Amalgamated the military, wiped it out and replaced it he imposed the National Energy Program, to wreck Alberta's energy economy he cozied up to the Communists to try to stick it to America he incited an inflation crisis by massive government overspending then he ignored the nationwide protests against his agenda he even had to be propped up by the NDP for awhile to get his agenda passed sounds pretty Justin like to me Edited April 20, 2023 by Dougie93 Quote
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 55 minutes ago, Nationalist said: but he was successful. I would argue that even his supposed crowning achievement, the Charter of Rights & Freedoms, has been a failure because any time someone tries to invoke their constitutional rights in Canada, in a crisis the government simply invokes Section 1 and/or Section 33 to negate that in theory, on paper, you supposedly have rights but in practice, if you try to use them, these two trap doors spring out from under your feet the constitution is supposed to protect the individual against the rule of a mob but the mob that rules Canada is the Liberals and if you ever defy them ; suddenly you have no rights at all Quote
Nationalist Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Dougie93 said: Justin is getting his agenda passed that is the definition of success for a politician what policy from his agenda has Justin failed to get passed ? We have different measuring sticks. I measure by favourable outcomes for the citizenry. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I would argue that even his supposed crowning achievement, the Charter of Rights & Freedoms, has been a failure because any time someone tries to invoke their constitutional rights in Canada, in a crisis the government simply invokes Section 1 and/or Section 33 to negate that in theory, on paper, you supposedly have rights but in practice, if you try to use them, these two trap doors spring out from under your feet the constitution is supposed to protect the individual against the rule of a mob but the mob that rules Canada is the Liberals and if you ever defy them ; suddenly you have no rights at all This is unfortunately true when we have a PM who has no qualms about abusing his powers. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 Just now, Nationalist said: We have different measuring sticks. I measure by favourable outcomes for the citizenry. I don't know what those outcomes would be basically the whole Trudeau agenda was a disaster but it was bailed out in the end by Free Trade it was hard times in Canada until Canada integrated with the American markets it's really America which makes Ontario prosperous Quote
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: This is unfortunately true when we have a PM who has no qualms about abusing his powers. because the PM is effectively above the law an American President can be arrested for his crimes, with the FBI kicking in his door that will never happen in Canada Quote
Nationalist Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 Just now, Dougie93 said: I don't know what those outcomes would be basically the whole Trudeau agenda was a disaster but it was bailed out in the end by Free Trade it was hard times in Canada until Canada integrated with the American markets it's really America which makes Ontario prosperous Yes...we are slaved to the US economy. We are also slaved to China. Neither situation is optimal. We have enough resources to stand on our own and do business with those who deal fairly. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 Just now, Dougie93 said: because the PM is effectively above the law an American President can be arrested for his crimes, with the FBI kicking in his door that will never happen in Canada Can we kick in Maggie's cottage door? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Yes...we are slaved to the US economy. We are also slaved to China. Neither situation is optimal. We have enough resources to stand on our own and do business with those who deal fairly. the problem for Canada is that America doesn't need Canada's resources America has all those resources too and is a net exporter of them only China needs Canada's resources and that is how China has gotten its hooks into Canada 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Can we kick in Maggie's cottage door? you can only kick in the doors of the working & middle classes in Canada with the elites, you have to talk to their lawyers Quote
Nationalist Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: the problem for Canada is that America doesn't need Canada's resources America has all those resources too and is a net exporter of them only China needs Canada's resources and that is how China has gotten its hooks into Canada Well...as far as I'm concerned, China can go to Hell. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 Just now, Nationalist said: Well...as far as I'm concerned, China can go to Hell. well I don't think they are actually a threat to supplant America but I do think they are a grave threat to Canadians and they are already operating against Canadians on Canadian soil 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: you can only kick in the doors of the working & middle classes in Canada with the elites, you have to talk to their lawyers Unfortunate but true. The best we can do is trash the legacy of Pixie-Dust. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Unfortunate but true. The best we can do is trash the legacy of Pixie-Dust. I don't see him as the cause, I see him as the result the nature of Canada is elitism Canada loves the elites while Canada despises the hoi polloi that is the Canadian culture, deeply ingrained Quote
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 the MiG-29 is just not in the same class as the F-16 it's not about dogfighting the MiG-29 simply lacks the avionics, sensors & offensive strike capabilities 9 MiG-29's don't make much of a difference whereas 9 F-16's would be a serious problem for the Russians Quote
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 37 minutes ago, Nationalist said: The best we can do is trash the legacy of Pixie-Dust. seems to me the legacy is trashing Canada case in point, look at this lunacy here this is Canada, this is what governance in Canada is all about : FIRST READING: Public Health Agency of Canada report calls for toppling of 'capitalism and liberty' The report's all-white authors identified themselves as 'uninvited land occupiers,' before calling for the wholesale 'decolonization' of society in the interest of public health A new Health Canada report suggests public health officials should be openly advocating for the toppling of capitalism, Western society and even the very concept of “liberty and individualism” The paper — written by three authors who “identify as white settlers” — also recommended that Canadian public health actions should focus on “decolonization, justice and equity” above all. https://nationalpost.com/opinion/public-health-agency-of-canada-report-calls-for-toppling-of-capitalism-liberty Quote
Nationalist Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 25 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: seems to me the legacy is trashing Canada case in point, look at this lunacy here this is Canada, this is what governance in Canada is all about : FIRST READING: Public Health Agency of Canada report calls for toppling of 'capitalism and liberty' The report's all-white authors identified themselves as 'uninvited land occupiers,' before calling for the wholesale 'decolonization' of society in the interest of public health A new Health Canada report suggests public health officials should be openly advocating for the toppling of capitalism, Western society and even the very concept of “liberty and individualism” The paper — written by three authors who “identify as white settlers” — also recommended that Canadian public health actions should focus on “decolonization, justice and equity” above all. https://nationalpost.com/opinion/public-health-agency-of-canada-report-calls-for-toppling-of-capitalism-liberty Yup. The Woke and Pixie-Dust are openly attacking the foundations of this country. Yet those of us who realize this, are supposed to stay silent and suck it up. "The world is changing. You need to change with it." No...what you're doing is destructive nonsense. This kaka has got to be disposed of. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Yup. The Woke and Pixie-Dust are openly attacking the foundations of this country. Yet those of us who realize this, are supposed to stay silent and suck it up. "The world is changing. You need to change with it." No...what you're doing is destructive nonsense. This kaka has got to be disposed of. but even if the Conservatives can win this Communism ( funded by the Chinese Communists ) is deeply entrenched the unions will fight the Conservatives tooth & nail, and the unions will win then the Conservatives will get thrown out, under a relentless assault by the state media propaganda arms then away we go again I've been through this cycle too many times now, not to see that it is actually the nature of Canada, not an aberration Quote
Nationalist Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: but even if the Conservatives can win this Communism ( funded by the Chinese Communists ) is deeply entrenched the unions will fight the Conservatives tooth & nail, and the unions will win then the Conservatives will get thrown out, under a relentless assault by the state media propaganda arms then away we go again I've been through this cycle too many times now, not to see that it is actually the nature of Canada, not an aberration Not this Canadian. My nature is to side with what's "best" for Canada...and the crap the Libbies have been dishing out, is not "best" for Canada. This is why I get so wound up sometimes. These freaks are destroying everything they touch. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Not this Canadian Communism is the rule of a mob hence why I am not loyal to the mob which is Canadian Confederation I am only loyal to HM King Charles III, as per the Constitution Act 1982 Quote
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 44 minutes ago, Nationalist said: My nature is to side with what's "best" for Canada... I'm not saying that a proxy war between great powers is a good thing I'm not advocating for the Democrats concept of operations, at all all I'm saying is, deterrence has failed, by misapprehension, miscalculation and/or mistake we are now at war with Russia for all intents and purposes and Canada signed up for that, long ago as signatories to the 1949 Washington Treaty ( NATO ) and the United Kingdom United States Security Agreement ( FVEY ) this is where my oath to HM King Charles III binds me I don't have to be loyal to the Confederation but I am bound by oath to defend the monarch from the Russians by way of NATO & FVEY Quote
Dougie93 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: This is why I get so wound up sometimes. These freaks are destroying everything they touch. I declaim it as totalitarian Communist lunacy and as such, I just don't identify with the Confederation which made them I still feel like an Upper Canadian Loyalist but the rest of Canada is alien to me now now I know what the Quebec Nationalists want and why they want that and now I want what they want too, I just want to hold on to my British heritage & governance like they want to theirs I want what French Canada wants for British Canada which is autonomy from the Confederation, a much weaker Confederation without all this centralized power Quote
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