Dbl- And Triple-Jabbed Deaths Vastly Outnumber Unvaxed Deaths Since Dec 2021.

[Goddess]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Who said that, other than you?

Eyeball.

For one.

[Moonbox]

Where?

[eyeball]

52 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Yes. A person's age and health pretty much always affects their ability to deal with diseases or illnesses that come along.

Always requiring excavators though?  Maybe that was just fake news.

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World population has gone UP in the usual amount for the last 2 years.

So lots of spares to replace the old ones?  

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There are lots of measures available.  Elderly people have the vaccines, they have masks, they have social distancing, they can stay home during peak periods.

Good to know. Unfortunately vulnerable people also have to contend with millions of people who don't seem to give a flying fuck about their vulnerability because they're more concerned with the Coming of the Red Dawn.

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I dont' believe we should to shut down society for an illness with an IFR that is only .05% higher than the seasonal flu.

We didn't shut down society for that. We adjusted how society functions to come to terms with a novel disease that we had no protection against that was ripping like wildfire.

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You never seem concerned about the collateral damage being done -  youth suicide rates have increased by 300%, businesses have gone bankrupt or are nearly bankrupt, families are struggling, domestic violence is skyrocketing.

I've said from the beginning that governments should invest more money to address these concerns.  All you guys seem to be concerned about is spending next to nothing, preferably nothing.

 

[eyeball]

27 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Where?

I'm afraid she's right top a certain degree. I honestly do believe many conservatives have shown a willingness to accept higher rates of sickness and death than progressives especially in terms of preserving freedom and liberty. I do also think there is reason to believe the economy is more important than human life to more conservatives than progressives in our society.  I realize this is a rather harsh assessment of what passes for mainstream conservatism these days but it is what it is.

Edited March 3, 2022 by eyeball

[Infidel Dog]

17 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'm afraid she's right top a certain degree. I honestly do believe many conservatives have shown a willingness to accept higher rates of sickness and death than progressives especially in terms of preserving freedom and liberty. I do also think there is reason to believe the economy is more important than human life to more conservatives than progressives in our society.  I realize this is a rather harsh assessment of what passes for mainstream conservatism these days but it is what it is.

I've never seen anything saying Blue States are doing better than Red States with covid. I've seen Governors like Kristi Noem of South Dakota claim it's the other way around, but if you're pushing the idea the morally superior Blue States with  their lockdowns and masks and mandates and vaccine passports are doing so much better than these greedy, freedom loving Conservatives talk to this guy:

I wouldn't mind seeing some evidence of the better results coming as a result this postured and I would say fantasy, moral superiority of the Progs myself.

[Moonbox]

37 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'm afraid she's right top a certain degree. I honestly do believe many conservatives have shown a willingness to accept higher rates of sickness and death than progressives especially in terms of preserving freedom and liberty. 

but did you say they want to kill old people, or what you're saying above here? Pretty big difference in the two lol.  

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

but did you say they want to kill old people, or what you're saying above here? Pretty big difference in the two lol.  

Not exactly no. It makes even less sense given 3/4 of conservatives are probably already old and wrinkled.

[eyeball]

27 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

I wouldn't mind seeing some evidence of the better results coming as a result this postured and I would say fantasy, moral superiority of the Progs myself.

I'm sure there will be no end of discussion going forward if this is anything to go by.

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Examining the Left-Right Divide Through the Lens of a Global Crisis: Ideological Differences and Their Implications for Responses to the COVID-19 Pandemic

The COVID-19 disease pandemic is one of the most pressing global health issues of our time. Nevertheless, responses to the pandemic exhibit a stark ideological divide, with political conservatives (versus liberals/progressives) expressing less concern about the virus and less behavioral compliance with efforts to combat it.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/pops.12740

 

[Infidel Dog]

Scanned through it. Seems to be a lot of confirmation bias going on there at "Political Psychology" but it doesn't matter.

If you want to convince us a morally biased stance that is allegedly only present in those who self identify as "Progressives" and would manifest in Blue States is empowering a superior efficacy of results in controlling the virus let's see some evidence that's happening.

Otherwise all you got is pedantic bafflegab.

Edited March 4, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, Accountability Now said:

Do you have a cite for this? I always post a similar stat (as shown above) using Alberta data that shows it to be 97% but I would like to have more backup than just the Alberta population. 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

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Comorbidities and other conditions

Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death. For data on deaths involving COVID-19 by time-period, jurisdiction, and other health conditions,

I think that when I originally cited this here, I used the info from a fact checking site that was referencing this page. 

It's worth noting that in some cases covid caused one or more of the co-morbidities, but that doesn't mean that a different cause, like diabetes, cancer, ischemic heart disease, etc, wasn't present when the patient first got covid. 

[WestCanMan]

There's still no update on the Statista webpage, it still says 868 T-vaxed deaths, but by now there are over 1,000 triple-vaxed and boosted Canadians dead from covid. 

There will be twice as many vaxed dead as unvaxed since Dec and that's why the MSM is suddenly avoiding the issue of covid like the plague ?

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

Scanned through it. Seems to be a lot of confirmation bias going on there at "Political Psychology" but it doesn't matter.

If you want to convince us a morally biased stance that is allegedly only present in those who self identify as "Progressives" and would manifest in Blue States is empowering a superior efficacy of results in controlling the virus let's see some evidence that's happening.

Otherwise all you got is pedantic bafflegab.

I'm not trying to convince you of the nonsense you just wrote but I'm certainly challenging the notion that the fear of the Red Dawn's arrival should be what shapes our public health policy and that more sickness and death is acceptable.

Of course I think it's morally reprehensible to put money ahead of human life. Doesn't everybody? If not then maybe we need to have that discussion. 

[eyeball]

24 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

There's still no update on the Statista webpage, it still says 868 T-vaxed deaths, but by now there are over 1,000 triple-vaxed and boosted Canadians dead from covid. 

There will be twice as many vaxed dead as unvaxed since Dec and that's why the MSM is suddenly avoiding the issue of covid like the plague ?

You don't think it's because it's already yesterday's news and there more pressing things facing the world now?

Hey look, there goes Justin Bieber  now the morons have shelled a nuclear plant and set in on fire!

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Russian troops outside the city of Enerhodar are shelling the Zaporizhzhia power plant, Ukraine’s largest nuclear facility, and a fire has broken out, according to Ukrainian officials.

Ukrainian leaders warn the attacks are creating a “real threat of nuclear danger” at the power station, the largest plant of its kind in Europe.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/russia-ukraine-nuclear-plant-zaporizhzhia-b2028294.html

 

 

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You don't think it's because it's already yesterday's news and there more pressing things facing the world now?

A pandemic is actually far more important than a single war (FYI more people died from the Spanish flu than WWI) but covid coverage was all based on pushing the pfizerjabs on young people, and now that the pseudovax is giong through a flu season, and hundreds of Canadians are dying every week, that's a hard sell. 

We won't hear about covid again until there's something that supports vaxing. 

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

We won't hear about covid again until there's something that supports vaxing. 

Is that a promise?

[WestCanMan]

42 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Is that a promise?

Of course I can't promise it.

Maybe Prince Andrew or Joe whatevermylastnameis will get covid. 

But the topic of covid is back-burnered right now. It went from 35 minutes of a 44-minute newscast down to 0 minutes. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Of course I can't promise it.

Maybe Prince Andrew or Joe whatevermylastnameis will get covid. 

But the topic of covid is back-burnered right now. It went from 35 minutes of a 44-minute newscast down to 0 minutes. 

Yeah well, Godzilla is rising so go figure. Good thing we're all tripled divided against one another even worse than when we went into COVID. I guess that was just for giggles, now it's really for the shits.

Don't look up as they say.

Edited March 4, 2022 by eyeball

[Infidel Dog]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

I'm not trying to convince you of the nonsense you just wrote but I'm certainly challenging the notion that the fear of the Red Dawn's arrival should be what shapes our public health policy and that more sickness and death is acceptable.

Of course I think it's morally reprehensible to put money ahead of human life. Doesn't everybody? If not then maybe we need to have that discussion. 

Speaking of nonsense. Here's what you wrote and what I was responding too:

" I honestly do believe many conservatives have shown a willingness to accept higher rates of sickness and death than progressives especially in terms of preserving freedom and liberty."

And here's what's wrong with that:

There are no "higher rates of sickness and death" in Conservative managed free states for you to show us. You know it. That's why you call a request to see it if you've got it "nonsense."

Over all, unmandated states and countries that have offered the option of what you call a vaccine and even masks but don't mandate them and leave their states open for business and socialization have done just fine over states that went authoritarian with restrictions. Infection Enhanced Immunity in free states evens everything out.

Authoritarian rule is unneeded over reach. 

Myself, I think what you call progressives even know this. I know I've heard you say you're opposed to restrictions when it suits you. 

[WestCanMan]

27 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yeah well, Godzilla is rising so go figure. Good thing we're all tripled divided against one another even worse than when we went into COVID. I guess that was just for giggles, now it's really for the shits.

Don't look up as they say.

Covid is a political issue gone toxic for the people who were wielding it as their rod and their staff. Their sheeple need a new distraction. 

[Goddess]

17 hours ago, eyeball said:

Maybe that was just fake news.

It's medical fact.

Elderly and very unhealthy people do not do well when they contract another disease or illness.

Bankrupting businesses/families and making children and teens give up their social lives for 2 years, will not help them.

[Accountability Now]

20 hours ago, eyeball said:

For most people COVID was a disease for which excavators were needed to bury the dead they were piling up so fast.

Please tell me you're joking with this comment. You're at a point where your theatrical comments make you look absurd. 

20 hours ago, eyeball said:

 When you say we you're talking about people who think Trudeau is Hitler,

No. Trudeau is not Hitler, he sounded like Hitler when he made is comments. Again, an English lesson on comparisons using like or as might help. 

20 hours ago, eyeball said:

You seem utterly oblivious to just how incredible you've made yourselves. 

By citing data from experts? That doesn't make me incredible, rather it should be seen as normal. 

20 hours ago, eyeball said:

If COVID evolves and mutates towards becoming something more manageable like the flu, great.

Already here. Its called Omicron. Hence the lifting of mandates while Omircon is in mid stroke. 

20 hours ago, eyeball said:

But don't try to pretend through some power of hindsight that it's already done this or that you knew it would amongst all the other told you so's placed on constant parade around here. 

Well...this was my first post on Repolitics in almost two years and it came back in August before Delta even hit us.

On 8/11/2021 at 9:56 AM, Accountability Now said:

So if we are doing this to 'save themselves' them should we just lock all 60+ people in their rooms, especially since they account for 94% of all deaths?  Or how about anyone with hypertension or COPD. Should they not be allowed in restaurants?

My point all along is that people over 60 should be getting the vaccine as should people with comorbidities. People under this age or those who don't have comorbidities carry significantly less risk regardless of vaccination status. 

 

So yes...I did know how this was going down. The CDC had posted back in September of 2020 that 94% of deaths involved those with comorbidities. The UK already had plenty of data streaming out of their Delta wave in the summer of 2021. I didn't invent these ideas, I just listened to people other than the CBC and the Canadian government. Perhaps you might try looking beyond your myopic point of view and expand your view to things outside your tiny realm to see these answers. It was stated a long while back that 1) the virus can spread among the vaccinated and 2) the vast majority of deaths were among those with co-morbidities.  The fact that you chose NOT to listen to these FACTS is completely on you so stop your whining. 

20 hours ago, eyeball said:

By all means please stay blind to the damage your own fears do to help keep progress on track.  

My only fear is letting this country be overtaken by people like you who have no clue what facts are and proceed on making decisions on feelings. 

[Accountability Now]

17 hours ago, eyeball said:

You don't think it's because it's already yesterday's news and there more pressing things facing the world now?

Hey look, there goes Justin Bieber  now the morons have shelled a nuclear plant and set in on fire!

 

If its yesterday's news then why does your hero JT still have federal mandates in place? I'll wait for your elegant answer on this one. 

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, eyeball said:

You don't think it's because it's already yesterday's news and there more pressing things facing the world now?

Hey look, there goes Justin Bieber  now the morons have shelled a nuclear plant and set in on fire!

 

Do you have video of the "shelling" of the nuclear plant yet?

Or just the video of a flare landing on an adjacent building? ?

[Goddess]

The Pfizer documents are really depressing.  So many of the AE's are progressive, degenerative disorders.   The liver, the kidneys, the heart, the brain, the nervous system - all attacked. A lot of AE's involve the myelin - the coating around nerve fibers, like the rubber coating that protects electrical wires.  A year or 2 from now, I wonder how many people will connect the vaccine with  a diagnosis of MS or autoimmune disorder or degenerative brain disorder?

Sad, because they could have created a normal vaccine using attenuated virus, but chose to go the experimental route.  Then added insult to injury by making it mandatory by forcing people to choose between their jobs and social systems, when the majority of people faced very little risk - it's criminal, IMO.

[Goddess]

And don't forget to take note of how often you're going to hear about HIV.  My province is already putting up posters and telling people that everyone should get tested for HIV.