Referendum on Mandates?

[Goddess]

7 hours ago, taxme said:

Why am I being forced to wear a mask whenever I am entering a restaurant? I must wear a mask upon entry and keep wearing my mask until I am seated at my table. Once I am at my table I can now take my mask. No fear or worries here, folks. I cannot now spread the covid bug when I am sitting at my table with my mask off. LOL.

Can you explain to me as to where the common sense is in this silly nonsense rule? ?

Covid prefers places like malls and restaurants.  In a restaurant, it's best to get to your seat ASAP because covid does not see people who are sitting and eating.  That is why you can take your mask off when you are at the table, but have to put it back on if you stand up.

Same with check out lines - this is where covid usually gets activated.  While you are walking and shopping, covid gets distracted.  As soon as you get to the check out line, make sure you are 2 metres apart, otherwise covid will jump on you.

This is science.

I hope this is all over soon.

[Nationalist]

On 2/5/2022 at 8:00 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

No I am not aware of such poll on mandates. I know that 90% of Canadians are vaccinated and a good majority want vaccination mandated for everyone except health reasons. Also everyone is sick of restrictions. The question is whether we suddenly remove all restrictions, wearing masks included overnight as the trucker convoy is demanding or we do it in a prudent gradual manner that the governments are currently doing it.

"prudent gradual manner"

Like Britain? 

[CITIZEN_2015]

29 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

"prudent gradual manner"

Like Britain? 

Like Ontario.

[Nationalist]

27 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Like Ontario.

I can't help but feel sorry for you. I just cant imagine what it's like to so gripped by irrational fear.

Oh well. I guess going forward you'll be able to keep your chin-diaper and I promise to honestly try...

Not laughing in your face.

[CITIZEN_2015]

25 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I can't help but feel sorry for you. I just cant imagine what it's like to so gripped by irrational fear.

56 people reported dead of Covid in Ontario just today and more or less around same number every day past many days. Go ahead and be a dead hero., I feel sorry for you.

Edited February 7, 2022 by CITIZEN_2015

[Goddess]

26 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

56 people reported dead of Covid in Ontario just today and more or less around same number every day past many days. Go ahead and be a dead hero., I feel sorry for you.

We have never been given context for these daily death numbers we have been bombarded with every 15 minutes for the last 2 years.

Here is some for you:

Each day, about 150,000 people die world-wide.

• 48,700 are from cardiovascular disease
• 26,200 of those deaths are from cancer
• 10,700 of those deaths are from respiratory diseases
• 7,000 are from upper respiratory infections, such as the flu
• 6,900 from dementia
• 3,600 from liver diseases
• 3,400 from road injuries

At the time that covid was declared a pandemic, there were 4,500 deaths daily.

At its peak, there were 7,500 deaths daily.

 

Stop ingesting the panic porn.

Find out how many people normally die each day in Ontario.

You are being fed numbers with no context.

 

 

 

Edited February 7, 2022 by Goddess

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

56 people reported dead of Covid in Ontario just today and more or less around same number every day past many days. Go ahead and be a dead hero., I feel sorry for you.

You mean 56 people who had The Rona died. Of those, how many died BECAUSE of  The Rona? Who knows. That we've never been told.

If you check the death rate over years, you dont see a jump for The Rona. Our population is aging. The death rate will naturally rise a bit as a result. Which is exactly what the numbers show.

But ya...you go hide at home with your mask on. That would make you feel better, and give Ontario one less timid person to deal with.

[CITIZEN_2015]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

You mean 56 people who had The Rona died. Of those, how many died BECAUSE of  The Rona? Who knows. That we've never been told.

 

What does that mean???!!! It is officially reported yesterday that 56 people died of Covid in Ontario alone. 

[Moonbox]

22 hours ago, Army Guy said:

NANO's polls on CBC last night. 

sorry my bad it was an  Angus Reid poll, CTV news 54 % of Canadians 

New poll suggests majority of Canadians want COVID-19 restrictions to end | CTV News

Okay sure.  I want COVID-19 restrictions to end too.  I've 3 vaccines now and I'm tired of sitting at home not being able to do stuff.  There's a huge distinction, however, between wanting COVID-19 restrictions to end vs removing vaccine mandates/passports etc. 

People who've done everything they've been advised to by health officials want to get going and doing stuff.  That doesn't mean they don't believe in or support vaccine mandates.  You'll notice that the support for ending COVID restrictions is way higher than public support for the "freedom convoy" and what they want...nearly 100% higher.  

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

What does that mean???!!! It is officially reported yesterday that 56 people died of Covid in Ontario alone. 

It means 2 things actually.

1. In Ontario, 56 residents...I hope they were residents...reportedly passed away WHILE TESTING POSITIVE FOR COVID-19. Did they all pass away BECAUSE of Covid-19? That is unknown because we've already found out that the death toll is bloated with people who got hit by a car and had The Rona, people who died of old age and had The Rona, ANYONE who dies in Ontario and has The Rona, qualifies as a "Covid-19 death".

2. It means that, even with these obviously fuzzy stats, we can say that 0.0004% of the Ontario population passed away and that it is claimed they all passed away as a DIRECT result of...Covid-19. Statistically, I think that qualifies as zero.

I wonder what the age breakdown for those unfortunate 56 was? Mostly over 75?

Or what condition they were each in at the time of death? Did they have another ailment? WHAT REALLY KILLED THEM EACH?

The vast majority of Canucks are vaxxed. Hell I'm double-jabbed. But there are a goodly number of Canucks who are leery...for whatever reason and it's not like they haven't a good reason for doubting 'the powers that be'...of this "experimental for emergency use only" vaccine. There are also a rather sizable swath of Canucks...like me...who don't like the idea of the government telling us we must get jabbed by this "experimental for emergency use only" vaccine. That's NOT what Canada is.! It's what these 'powers that be' would like us to be. But I ain't buyin' it, and millions upon millions feel exactly the same way.

I've been watching the news and the numbers, as I'm sure you have. When I first heard about it all and the initial lockdown happened, I thought, 'OK...this is new and I do remember SARS, so let's do our part and give some time to evaluate the situation.' I also decided then, that I was NOT gonna let myself fall for all the "fear porn" that I was already hearing back then. "OH MY GAWD...WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!" Ya...thanks but no thanks.

We have known since about the Spring of 2021...if you bothered to follow ALL of the sciences...that our reaction was a little "ham-handed". We identified the ones at most risk, realized those stupid gawd-forsaken masks did more damage than good, that the media and the various governmental bureaucracies had filled us with some pretty overly slanted and frightening information, and that the raw numbers simply did not really warrant the drastic measures imposed on business. The risk for humans under the age of 65 was negligible and to children...statistically ZERO! Yet we, in a mad panic...created by the tone and presentation of warped facts by our media and others...are masking kids and giving them an "experimental for emergency use only" vaccine. Every time I think of this, I hear that old April Wine song playing in my head.

"The whole world's goin' crazy. Crazy crazy crazy craaazy. Hey baby, ya wanna go crazy with meee?"

Please stop being crazy. Most of the sciences have disagreed with these measures all along. Now the medical sciences are beginning to crack...and why?

The numbers and the actual FACTS, just don't warrant this.!

Edited February 7, 2022 by Nationalist

[Army Guy]

20 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Did I say “taking over the country”?  

They are trying to dictate how the COVID response is handled, are they not?  

They both mean the same, once you over throw the governance you basically have control of the country.... much like the what CBC has been peddling, and the leader of the NDP, they are looking to over throw a elected government and replace it with un elected people. and yet some how Justin is still in office... This whole thing is getting out of hand... 

[Army Guy]

27 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Okay sure.  I want COVID-19 restrictions to end too.  I've 3 vaccines now and I'm tired of sitting at home not being able to do stuff.  There's a huge distinction, however, between wanting COVID-19 restrictions to end vs removing vaccine mandates/passports etc. 

People who've done everything they've been advised to by health officials want to get going and doing stuff.  That doesn't mean they don't believe in or support vaccine mandates.  You'll notice that the support for ending COVID restrictions is way higher than public support for the "freedom convoy" and what they want...nearly 100% higher.  

I hear what your saying, we are going into our 3 rd year of this pandemic, and we have learned very little on how to control it, without collapsing our economy. with NO end in site, the 3 rd world is an incubation center, cooking up new variants monthly, and WE are in no rush to get them vaccinated, and until we do we are stuck in the same grove, until a cure is found or a better vaccine. How much longer do you see Canadians holding on with this routine.... you don't have to support the convoy to want to end this pandemic. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

Okay sure.  I want COVID-19 restrictions to end too.  I've 3 vaccines now and I'm tired of sitting at home not being able to do stuff.  There's a huge distinction, however, between wanting COVID-19 restrictions to end vs removing vaccine mandates/passports etc. 

People who've done everything they've been advised to by health officials want to get going and doing stuff.  That doesn't mean they don't believe in or support vaccine mandates.  You'll notice that the support for ending COVID restrictions is way higher than public support for the "freedom convoy" and what they want...nearly 100% higher.  

Tell me...knowing the percentage of Canadians who've gotten the jab, and knowing that jabbed or unjabbed, The Rona doesn't care, what logic leads you to conclude that every Canadian must get the jab? Are you concerned for their lives? If they're not, why would you be?

[Moonbox]

39 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

I hear what your saying, we are going into our 3 rd year of this pandemic, and we have learned very little on how to control it, without collapsing our economy. with NO end in site, the 3 rd world is an incubation center, cooking up new variants monthly, and WE are in no rush to get them vaccinated, and until we do we are stuck in the same grove, until a cure is found or a better vaccine. How much longer do you see Canadians holding on with this routine.... you don't have to support the convoy to want to end this pandemic. 

I think patience is wearing thin and this can't/won't go on much longer.  I suspect we might be wearing masks into the start of summer at least and there may be other things but I expect life to return to normal-ish this year, at least for vaccinated people.  For the unvaccinated, as long as they're clogging hospitals and making things harder for everyone else, I am 100% behind continued restrictions and that's what the convoy support polls seem to suggest the majority of Canadians think.  

[taxme]

On 2/6/2022 at 11:16 AM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Yes the logic is very simple. As you enter or walk to your table it is likely that you may come in close distance of less than 2m determine by experts as safe distance for respiratory diseases. But once you sit down then your position is fixed not changing or dynamic and tables are set such that you are at least 2m away from closest table.

Once I sit down and take off my mask, I can now start breathing and maybe start spreading covid in the air as I and my family and friends are talking. I am pretty sure that our covid bug will not stay at our table like a good dog would. I could even be sitting at my table and start coughing and sneezing and maybe spreading covid around in the air like freakin' crazy to everyone who is now near me and whom are not wearing their masks. 

When in a restaurant and that restaurant is close to being full, everybody in that restaurant is talking, not just sitting there looking dumb, and thus they all are maybe and no doubt could be spreading the covid bug around if anyone has the bug. Maybe no one should be allowed to talk in a restaurant. Ha-ha. 

When the waitress comes and takes my order, I can spread my covid on her clothes and to her/his open body parts just by talking to her and then she could go to another table and pass my covid bug onto the next patron/s. 

You are a hopeless leftist liberal cause, and it is people like you that keeps this covid scamdemic going, and you are in agreement with the Marxist politicians like Castro Trudeau in Canada in trying to take away my rights and freedoms. And I am pretty sure that you are all in on discrimination be implemented in Canada today to those that are not vaccinated and whom are being discriminated against and treated as second class citizen's who now have no more rights and freedoms in Canada. 

Our lying politicians and that lying media know how to use nice and scary words in order to try and gain your sympathy and support and try to get you to comply to their dictatorial demands in order to get people like you to constantly live in a state of fear and panic over sweet dik all. As you can see, your logic is all just plain stupid to me. Just saying. ?

 

Edited February 7, 2022 by taxme

[taxme]

22 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Based on what?  The fact you didn’t like the outcome? 

As I already said, for a guy like Trudeau to get reelected, who was so hated and despised by so many, but yet somehow, the Marxist dictator got his old PM job back. So yes indeed, I do believe that the election had to be fixed. That is what communists do? Fix elections. That is always how things are done in communist countries. That is my opinion and I am sticking to that opinion. So there. ? 

Trump knows all about fixed elections. Trump lost is reelection to be president once again because of the last American election was fixed. Even Joe BiDumb had said that the democrats have the greatest fraud election machine going. Look it up on google. As comrade Stalin once said: it is not who votes in the election that counts. It is who gets to count the votes in the end that counts. ?

[Goddess]

12 minutes ago, taxme said:

As I already said, for a guy like Trudeau to get reelected, who was so hated and despised by so many, but yet somehow, the Marxist dictator got his old PM job back.

He got 21% of the vote.

You'd think that would humble him and he'd at least speak with the protesters and find out what Canadians want.

[taxme]

16 hours ago, Goddess said:

Covid prefers places like malls and restaurants.  In a restaurant, it's best to get to your seat ASAP because covid does not see people who are sitting and eating.  That is why you can take your mask off when you are at the table, but have to put it back on if you stand up.

Same with check out lines - this is where covid usually gets activated.  While you are walking and shopping, covid gets distracted.  As soon as you get to the check out line, make sure you are 2 metres apart, otherwise covid will jump on you.

This is science.

I hope this is all over soon.

Covid likes going on cruises also. Already there has been four covid outbreaks on cruise ships even though all of the passengers were fully vaccinated and no doubt were being forced to wear a mask in public areas. Thus, this should show us all, and especially all of those leftist liberal pro mask snowflakes out there that being fully vaccinated and being boosted and wearing a mask does not protect anyone from getting the dreaded and scary covid bug. That is a fact that no one can deny. 

Covid can still be spread to others in a restaurant when everyone in the restaurant is not wearing their masks and talking while sitting down. Try and prove to me that this cannot happen? This whole mask thing is all just a bunch of silly stupid and illogical  nonsense. Only fools believe that masks and vaccinations still works. 

The whole idea about having to wear masks is a sign to your evil and satanic lying politicians that you are ready and willing to show your subservience and submission to your political masters and nothing more. Believe it or not. ?

[taxme]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

He got 21% of the vote.

You'd think that would humble him and he'd at least speak with the protesters and find out what Canadians want.

But yet, with 21% of the vote, he is now sitting in the big boys chair. Amazing, eh? 

Trudeau being humble? Not for that arrogant and ignorant Marxist dictator. All Marxist politicians do not like or have to feel the need to have to humble themselves down to their peasant slaves. Let them eat cake is his attitude. 

And that is what Castro Trudeau is all about. Power and control over we the peasants. Trudeau is a rotten little coward who is now in hiding who thinks that he is the king and that he should careless as to what we the peasants think or want. This buffoon has to go. He is no leader. he is a divider. All Trudeau is is just a Marxist little rotten coward who is afraid of we the peasants. A big honk-honk to you, comrade Trudeau. Come out-come out wherever you are. ?

[TreeBeard]

21% of the vote to the Libs?  Where does that figure come from?