Trucker's Convoy

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Faramir said:

??? I admit I am quite ignorant on who owns are debt.  For the USA it is much easier.  Just default on China's debt.  What are they going to do - go to war?  

that's not how it works

you need China to buy Canadian bonds to keep the interest rates down

if China stops buying those bonds, your interests go up exponentially

[Zeitgeist]

7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but Canada is totally reliant on China to buy Canada's massive debt

if Canada loses China, interest rates start rising out of control

To an extent, but China wants markets for its goods.  This is the symbiotic relationship we’ve developed.  Ultimately all these relationships have to be repaired and we need to be less beholden to other powers.  Not easy.  

[Dougie93]

don't forget

Canada has not just racked up a huge debt

Canada is borrowing money in real time

you don't have the money to pay for the government spending

China pays for that, on a daily basis

this is how China pulls Ottawa's strings

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

To an extent, but China wants markets for its goods.  This is the symbiotic relationship we’ve developed.  Ultimately all these relationships have to be repaired and we need to be less beholden to other powers.  Not easy.  

that was before the brink of World War Three

things just changed, the post Cold War era has just ended

after what the Russians have just done, backed by China by default through CSTO

Canada as a NATO country, cannot be friendly with China anymore

Edited February 25, 2022 by Dougie93

[Zeitgeist]

4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

that was before the brink of World War Three

things just changed, the post Cold War era has just ended

after what the Russians have just done, backed by China by default through CSTO

Canada as a NATO country, cannot be friendly with China anymore

Yes but it seems the Biden administration is also too beholden to China and won’t assert American power in the important ways, like through energy security.  

[Dougie93]

Just now, Zeitgeist said:

Yes but it seems the Biden administration is also too beholden to China and won’t assert American power in the important ways, like through energy security.  

this is not a limited incursion in Ukraine

Russia has declared war formally under the Hague Convention

the have crossed the Rubicon

they are going for broke

this is a general offensive across a broad front

the Russians can't lose, they have to win at all costs

up to and including, if they started to falter, the use of tactical nuclear weapons

so the whole Post Cold War Globalist paradigm we have lived in since 1989

all that collapsed, this is a whole new world, and it is a much harsher realm

 

[West]

[Aristides]

They already radiated the place with Chernobyl, a few tactical nukes won't make a lot of difference.

[Dougie93]

this is harsher than even late Cold War era

the Cold War you remember, 1970-1990 Detente to Reykjavik

this is not like that

this is the meeting engagement of Cold War Two

so this will be more like early Cold War era, 1950-1970

to wit,  the hot Cold War, Korea to Vietnam, to include the Cuban Missile Crisis

Edited February 25, 2022 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

They already radiated the place with Chernobyl, a few tactical nukes won't make a lot of difference.

well it will cause panic which will derail the global markets, which are loaded down under crushing debt burden

 

[Dougie93]

this is why you need to get your fiat money out of the banks now, and convert that into gold, before gold spikes

[Dougie93]

that is on top of having to get your money out of Canadian banks, before Justin Trudeau steals it from you

[Dougie93]

like whatever you have gotten used to as the economic reality for the last thirty years ?

prepare for all that to get upended

this is an inflection point of history, right now

this is the shit hitting the fan, right now

[West]

Convoy Accountant Chad debunks the liberal media myths. 

https://www.kidcarson.com/10-what-happened-to-the-convoy-money-interview-with-the-accountant/

[Dougie93]

take your savings out of the bank, convert that into gold

then start stocking up, before prices spiral / shortages worsen

there's no point in digging a bomb shelter, that doesn't save you from strontium-90

[Zeitgeist]

Now now, everything is okay.  Just speak your mind about what must change.  Freedom must carry the day.  Trudeau is one man.  Freeland is one woman.  If they try to persist in their oppression while the world condemns them?  Nope.  They’re under heavy pressure from their own people.  They blew it and the party faithful are plotting against them out of fear and self-interest.  We already knew this with the NDP.  The public are pissed. 

[Dougie93]

44 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Now now, everything is okay. 

there is no upside to holding Canadian dollars in a Canadian bank right now, regardless

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

I mean do you REALLY want to show your "papers"??

Really?

Think about it.

I'm at a complete loss as to why the point of 'ugh' in that song and why I would quote that particular line so utterly escapes you.  It's like you're talking to someone else.

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'm at a complete loss as to why the point of 'ugh' in that song and why I would quote that particular line so utterly escapes you.  It's like you're talking to someone else.

 

And I replied that it is indeed our hippy forefathers at the helm. They be the oldies now with all the cards...arrr...avast.

Charlie Manson was a hippy, too....rumor is.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Faramir said:

Oh so Trudeau's clownish behaviors is OUR fault.  Got it.

No, I'm saying your hatred is as effective as your fear at preventing you from thinking straight which only makes life easier for Trudeau.

[eyeball]

21 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

And I replied that it is indeed our hippy forefathers at the helm. They be the oldies now with all the cards...arrr...avast.

Charlie Manson was a hippy, too....rumor is.

Were you, ponytail halfway down your back?

I don't really buy the notion the hippies are entirely to blame for the state of things, it was our grandfathers.  Either that or some cohort that existed between them and the hippies that fucked everything up.  Knocking off democracies and propping up dictators was pretty much on par with biting into the proverbial forbidden apple.

The Shining Beacon was well on the way to becoming the Eye of Mordor long before the hippies even had a chance.

Edited February 25, 2022 by eyeball

[eyeball]

Just now, eyeball said:

Were you, ponytail halfway down your back?

I don't really buy the notion the hippies are to blame for the place the world is in, it was our grandfathers.  Either that or some cohort that existed between them and the hippies that fucked everything up.  Knocking off democracies and propping up dictators was pretty much on par with biting into the proverbial forbidden apple.

The Shining Beacon was well on the way to becoming the Eye of Mordor long before the hippies even had a chance.

 

[Zeitgeist]

3 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

there is no upside to holding Canadian dollars in a Canadian bank right now, regardless

Well the government tried to tamper with bank accounts in their purge of the opposition.  Everyone sees the extreme and possibly criminal overreach in that, because it was decided by a few people in a room.  Isn’t that exactly the kind of abuse we’ve endured throughout the pandemic?  Except before there was arguably a good excuse.  It’s like taking orders in a concentration camp when you know your prison guard will soon be under the authority of the liberators.  Trudeau and Freeland will have to answer for this.  The Senate refused to collaborate with the oppression.

The banks complied out of fear, but that fear is gone now.  No one cares about Trudeau’s hypocritical dishonest woke fascist schemes.  Sunny ways indeed.  He blew it.  Canadians won’t accept such unwarranted punishment from their own government anymore.  We need freedom now.  No more excuses.  No more attempts to suspend our rights for an emergency that no longer exists.

Canada’s roots are strong.  We fought alongside Russia before for the right cause.  It’s against their interest to crush or abuse Ukraine because soon they’ll have to run it.  Ultimately the people there will demand freedom as we do and the Russians do.  We’re all just people.  China’s attempt to manipulate world affairs by imposing totalitarian governance can only backfire because the people will demand freedom.

The Great Reset World Economic Forum plot has been exposed for what it is, a grotesque form of dehumanization that no “climate crisis” or other so-called emergency will ever justify.  If the Earth’s temperature increases a 2-3 degrees in the next century, there will be migrations and some damage, but soon the population will naturally shrink and our biggest concerns will still be providing affordable food, energy, and services, freedom, opportunity, and a sense of hope for the future.  Lose hope and you lose everything.  Well we’re saying no more to the fear mongering and alarmists.  Sorry Klaus Schwab, you don’t own us and we won’t accept your attempts to impose abuses on individual rights, families, and the way of life that Canadians cherish.

If China wants to sell us more stuff, they have to respect our values.  If Russia wants to be welcomed into the NATO fold, they need to stop the aggression and demand fair, open dialogue about what they think should change.

We also must respect their cultural values and needs.  China too.  Think of Bethune’s great work in China.  Think of the great international hockey tournaments and the Great Patriotic War.  We can work together, yet we must always protect ourselves from and fight against all forms of tyranny.  

Edited February 25, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

12 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Well the government tried to tamper with bank accounts in their purge of the opposition.  Everyone sees the extreme and possibly criminal overreach in that, because it was decided by a few people in a room.  Isn’t that exactly the kind of abuse we’ve endured throughout the pandemic?  Except before there was arguably a good excuse.  It’s like taking orders in a concentration camp when you know your prison guard will soon be under the authority of the liberators.  Trudeau and Freeland will have to answer for this.  The Senate refused to collaborate with the oppression.

The banks complied out of fear, but that fear is gone now.  No one cares about Trudeau’s hypocritical dishonest woke fascist schemes.  Sunny ways indeed.  He blew it.  Canadians won’t accept such unwarranted punishment from their own government anymore.  We need freedom now.  No more excuses.  No more attempts to suspend our rights for an emergency that no longer exists.

Canada’s roots are strong.  We fought alongside Russia before for the right cause.  It’s against their interest to crush or abuse Ukraine because soon they’ll have to run it.  Ultimately the people there will demand freedom as we do and the Russians do.  We’re all just people.  China’s attempt to manipulate world affairs by imposing totalitarian governance can only backfire because the people will demand freedom.

The Great Reset World Economic Forum plot has been exposed for what it is, a grotesque form and dehumanization that no “climate crisis” or other so-called emergency will ever justify.  If the Earth’s temperature increases a 2-3 degrees in the next century, there will be migrations and some damage, but soon the population will naturally shrink and our biggest concerns will still be providing affordable food, energy, and services, freedom, opportunity, and a sense of hope for the future.  Lose hope and you lose everything.  Well we’re saying no more to the fear mongering and alarmists.  Sorry Klaus Schwab, you don’t own us and we won’t accept your attempts to impose abuses on individual rights, families, and the way of life that Canadians cherish.

If China wants to sell us more stuff, they have to respect our values.  If Russia wants to be welcomed into the NATO fold, they need to stop the aggression and demand fair, open dialogue about what they think should change.

We also must respect their cultural values and needs.  China too.  Think of Bethune’s great work in China.  Think of the great international hockey tournaments and the Great Patriotic War.  We can work together, yet we must always protect ourselves from and fight against all forms of tyranny.  

still not seeing the upside to holding Canadian fiat currency in Justin Trudeau's banks

it's not like they are paying you any interest to hold your money for Trudeau

[Zeitgeist]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

still not seeing the upside to holding Canadian fiat currency in Justin Trudeau's banks

it's not like they are paying you any interest to hold your money for Trudeau

Ah don’t worry.  Trudeau will soon be relegated to the darker chapters of the history books.  All he and Freeland can do now is try to remain employable and out of jail.  Their power will diminish.  Schwab is an old man.  It’s over.