eyeball Posted February 1, 2022 Report Posted February 1, 2022 37 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So...you completely dismiss the previous 20 minutes these cops spent trying to arrest Floyd? Why how...silly of you. Right...I keep forgetting he had it coming. Silly me. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted February 1, 2022 Report Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Right...I keep forgetting he had it coming. Silly me. I didn't say the criminal had to die. I said, when you ask for harsher treatment from the police, expect to receive harsher treatment. This was a CRIMINAL who had contributed nothing but underground conduct for most of his life. He was also wanted by another city, if I remember correctly. NOT the type of person one might wanna hold up as a reason to burn down whole city blocks. THUS...the cop did go overboard and Floyd died. Floyd WAS under the influence of some hard drug, at the time of the incident. Floyd did resist arrest. The cop is in jail now. Ya gits wut ya pays fer. Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted February 1, 2022 Report Posted February 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I didn't say the criminal had to die. I said, when you ask for harsher treatment from the police, expect to receive harsher treatment. Oh, so Floyd asked for it. There is a subtle difference from having it coming I suppose. Quote This was a CRIMINAL who had contributed nothing but underground conduct for most of his life. Okay but he was also a human being and the rest of his life is not the issue, how his life ended is. Chauvin and his accomplies should have know he didn't have to die as well. Quote Floyd did resist arrest. He also resisted being killed. Quote Ya gits wut ya pays fer. And sometimes you get ripped off. 1 A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted February 1, 2022 Report Posted February 1, 2022 4 hours ago, eyeball said: Yeah that probably just inspired him to lean a little more heavily on Floyd. Why? What do you know that no one else knows? Are you honestly speculating that you know what Chauvin was thinking in that moment? Because if you are, that's just your own ignorance speaking. If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Nationalist Posted February 1, 2022 Report Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Oh, so Floyd asked for it. There is a subtle difference from having it coming I suppose. Okay but he was also a human being and the rest of his life is not the issue, how his life ended is. Chauvin and his accomplies should have know he didn't have to die as well. He also resisted being killed. And sometimes you get ripped off. Like I said...resisting arrest is a bad idea. Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted February 1, 2022 Report Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Why? What do you know that no one else knows Nothing. I know no more than you do. Quote Are you honestly speculating that you know what Chauvin was thinking in that moment? Because if you are, that's just your own ignorance speaking. When Chauvin's history came up for inspection as well as Floyd's it became apparent that Chauvin had a history of violent heavy-handedness when it came to applying force. It also came to light that the two men had an altercation in the past. Witnesses that were there testified they watched Chauvin increase the pressure he was placing on Floyd's neck. I'm basing my speculation on that. Chauvin was a pig, he deserved what he got and America probably does to for having to accommodate the sort of speculation you prefer to engage in. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted February 1, 2022 Report Posted February 1, 2022 44 minutes ago, eyeball said: Nothing. I know no more than you do. You said that something probably inspired Chauvin to lean more heavily on Floyd. That requires some kind of insight into Chauvin's mind. Let's just both admit that you don't have any insights into Chauvin's mind. Quote Chauvin was a pig, he deserved what he got and America probably does to for having to accommodate the sort of speculation you prefer to engage in. FYI I'm not the one engaging in speculation at all. CNN and CBC dolts have been speculating, or rather declaring, since the very beginning, that Floyd's murder "had to be racism because of how callous it seemed". I say with absolute certainty that racism wasn't necessarily the cause of Floyd's death, based on the callousness alone, because Tony Timpa's murder was committed exactly like Floyd's, and Timpa's definitely wasn't racist. If Chauvin and Floyd had a bad history, then that's not necssarily based on racism either. It could be based on the fact that Floyd, the guy who pointed a gun at a pregnant woman's belly during a home invasion, was still an asshole. In fact, it could be based on Floyd's own racism. FYI black people are racist too. There are restaurants and churches all over the US where white people aren't allowed to enter. Leftists did nothing but declare that they absolutely knew that racism was the cause of Floyd's death until the bodycam footage came out. Suddenly their bubble was burst and the riots fizzled immediately. If Ellison had let that bodycam footage out earlier then a lot of harm could have been averted. If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
WestCanMan Posted February 1, 2022 Report Posted February 1, 2022 4 hours ago, eyeball said: He also resisted being killed. It's actually a very serious problem that people resist arrest the way that Floyd did. If Floyd hadn't resisted the way that he did there's a zero % chance that he'd be dead at the hands of Chauvin. If Rayshard hadn't resisted the way that he did then the police would have had no reason to kill him. In Floyd's case, resisting still shouldn't have had to result in his death, but he increased the chances from 0.00% to something. And why? He didn't want to get busted for using counterfeit money? Or possibly get off without even a single charge? CNN and CTV aren't doing people any favours by ignoring the danger posed by resisting. If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
eyeball Posted February 1, 2022 Report Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: You said that something probably inspired Chauvin to lean more heavily on Floyd. That requires some kind of insight into Chauvin's mind. Let's just both admit that you don't have any insights into Chauvin's mind. I didn't need any based on what we know. Quote FYI I'm not the one engaging in speculation at all. Call it tongue wagging then, much like the following: Quote CNN and CBC dolts have been speculating, or rather declaring, since the very beginning, that Floyd's murder "had to be racism because of how callous it seemed". I say with absolute certainty that racism wasn't necessarily the cause of Floyd's death, based on the callousness alone, because Tony Timpa's murder was committed exactly like Floyd's, and Timpa's definitely wasn't racist. If Chauvin and Floyd had a bad history, then that's not necssarily based on racism either. It could be based on the fact that Floyd, the guy who pointed a gun at a pregnant woman's belly during a home invasion, was still an asshole. In fact, it could be based on Floyd's own racism. FYI black people are racist too. There are restaurants and churches all over the US where white people aren't allowed to enter. Leftists did nothing but declare that they absolutely knew that racism was the cause of Floyd's death until the bodycam footage came out. Suddenly their bubble was burst and the riots fizzled immediately. If Ellison had let that bodycam footage out earlier then a lot of harm could have been averted. BTW "if'" and "it could" = speculation = tongue wagging. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 1, 2022 Report Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: It's actually a very serious problem that people resist arrest the way that Floyd did. Well, when I was buried under a pile of people in a suffocating terrified state I thrashed and kicked like my life depended on it. It's an even more serious situation when people doing the suffocating don't recognize that's the likely result of their actions never mind what the consequences will be if they don't stop. Quote CNN and CTV aren't doing people any favours by ignoring the danger posed by resisting. The cops aren't doing themselves any favours by ignoring the danger posed by over-escalating a situation. Just go ask Chauvin's...accomplices. Edited February 2, 2022 by eyeball A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Like I said...resisting arrest is a bad idea. At some point however he was resisting death. Put yourself in his shoes, I was in those shoes once and I know what I'm talking about. Your mind and body are one when faced with imminent death and you have no control over either and you do the most natural thing in the world that any human being would do, you resist dying. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
ironstone Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 7 hours ago, eyeball said: Yeah that probably just inspired him to lean a little more heavily on Floyd. Do you honestly think that Derrick Chauvin woke up one morning and decided that on that day, he's going to go out and hunt down a black man? If any group is being hunted , it's cops. All that BLM rhetoric and incitement is having deadly results. The Dems idiotic soft on crime policy has got to end. Floyd would likely be alive today if he didn't have so much fentanyl in his system and did not resist. Why do these criminals keep resisting arrest over and over? Are they brainwashed? If I have some kind of interaction with the police, I KNOW IT'S STUPID TO RESIST AND IT WILL END BADLY FOR ME. "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
eyeball Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, ironstone said: Do you honestly think that Derrick Chauvin woke up one morning and decided that on that day, he's going to go out and hunt down a black man? If any group is being hunted , it's cops. All that BLM rhetoric and incitement is having deadly results. The Dems idiotic soft on crime policy has got to end. Floyd would likely be alive today if he didn't have so much fentanyl in his system and did not resist. Why do these criminals keep resisting arrest over and over? Are they brainwashed? Are you on LSD or something, how on Earth could you possibly come to imagine that given what I've been writing here? I'm serious, I would really like to understand the mental process you used or that possessed you to write this. Quote If I have some kind of interaction with the police, I KNOW IT'S STUPID TO RESIST AND IT WILL END BADLY FOR ME. Fair enough, but what about when the line is crossed where you are no longer able to resist your urge to resist because your body is telling you it's being suffocated? You just take a big breath and relax? A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, eyeball said: At some point however he was resisting death. Put yourself in his shoes, I was in those shoes once and I know what I'm talking about. Your mind and body are one when faced with imminent death and you have no control over either and you do the most natural thing in the world that any human being would do, you resist dying. I've been arrested. I got through it unscathed by cooperating with the police. If you once resisted arrest...stupid you. Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 Just now, Nationalist said: I've been arrested. I got through it unscathed by cooperating with the police. If you once resisted arrest...stupid you. Well sure, but have you ever been suffocated to the point where you thought you were going to die? Have you suffocated someone before and possess a unique insight into the minds of your victims that tell you they're just faking it or something? A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: Well sure, but have you ever been suffocated to the point where you thought you were going to die? Have you suffocated someone before and possess a unique insight into the minds of your victims that tell you they're just faking it or something? No. Ya see...I try to avoid stupid people and dangerous situations. That's how civilization holds together. People have some responsibility to follow the rules. Ergo...don't resist arrest. Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Nationalist said: No. Ya see...I try to avoid stupid people and dangerous situations. That's how civilization holds together. People have some responsibility to follow the rules. Sounds like you also avoid taking any responsibility for trying to understand that people should do unto others as they'd have others do unto them. That's how rules became civilized. Quote Ergo...don't resist arrest. Sure, no argument there but when someone is dying you should help them. Floyd resisted arrest up until the point he couldn't and that was when police restraint and compassion should have kicked in - to ensure civilization remains civilized. Edited February 2, 2022 by eyeball A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sounds like you also avoid taking any responsibility for trying to understand that people should do unto others as they'd have others do unto them. That's how rules became civilized. Sure, no argument there but when someone is dying you should help them. Floyd resisted arrest up until the point he couldn't and that was when police compassion should have kicked in - to ensure civilization remains civilized. 1. I take responsibility for myself and my family. I do live by The Golden Rule as much as I can. But if a man has so little respect as to be a career criminal and pays with his life in the end...I have little to no respect or sympathy for said man. That's because this man has already proven his inability to exist within the confines of a civil society. 2. The cop screwed up and is paying his dues. But Floyd was certainly not civilized and most certainly should not be deified. Edited February 2, 2022 by Nationalist Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Floyd was certainly not civilized and most certainly should not be deified. There's also a point when his vilification should stop but apparently there's people who just can't or won't go there. It is what it is. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: There's also a point when his vilification should stop but apparently there's people who just can't or won't go there. It is what it is. I agree. When that square in Minneapolis dedicated to him is torn down...when "I can't breath" is a public joke...when this turkey droppings called "equity" is dumped for actual equality. And when the heads of fucking BLM... ROLL! Edited February 2, 2022 by Nationalist Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: And when the heads of fucking BLM... ROLL! It's hard not to get the sense people can't wait. I bet these guys will start rolling too. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, eyeball said: It's hard not to get the sense people can't wait. I bet these guys will start rolling too. Ya gits wut ya pays fer. Try to live...frugally for a spell. Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
WestCanMan Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, eyeball said: I didn't need any based on what we know. Call it tongue wagging then, much like the following: BTW "if'" and "it could" = speculation = tongue wagging. The problem is that you just don't have a basic understanding of the situation. Something isn't racist just because you don't like it. It's just something that you don't like. You were busted for jumping to conclusions, now you just don't want to admit it. I don't care, I wasn't expecting you to admit the error of your ways. If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
WestCanMan Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Well, when I was buried under a pile of people in a suffocating terrified state I thrashed and kicked like my life depended on it. It's an even more serious situation when people doing the suffocating don't recognize that's the likely result of their actions never mind what the consequences will be if they don't stop. The cops aren't doing themselves any favours by ignoring the danger posed by over-escalating a situation. Just go ask Chauvin's...accomplices. Is it fine for CNN to tell young black kids that hating cops is reasonable? Is it fine for CNN to tell young black kids that examples of black people being shot after punching and tasering cops is 'just an example of police brutality & racism"? I'd never tell my kid that. I'd never let anyone else tell my kid that. Listen to the cops. Be polite, even if they're wrong. Have your day in court if you must. Rayshard and Floyd were in no danger of being blamed for a murder that they didn't commit. One was guilty of driving impaired, one of them passed some counterfeit money and maybe he just needed to answer some questions. Neither of them had any reason at all to fight. They'd both be doing their thing right now if they were polite to the police. If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
eyeball Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 14 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The problem is that you just don't have a basic understanding of the situation. I'm pretty sure I have a very good understanding of the situation including knowing what it's actually like to feel like you're being suffocated. Quote Something isn't racist just because you don't like it. It's just something that you don't like. Sometimes it is racist. Quote You were busted for jumping to conclusions, now you just don't want to admit it. I don't care, I wasn't expecting you to admit the error of your ways. You mean the pee stain? Oh no you got me fair and square, I failed to wait for the ad in your video clip to see the pee...shit happens. In any case I see you've downgraded your accuracy/infallibility rate from %100 to %99.99999 so kudos to you too. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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