Infidel Dog Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Here's what they're really up to: " Democrats have challenged the legitimacy of every presidential election they’ve lost this millennium: They blamed a corrupt Supreme Court for their defeat in 2000, crooked voting machines in 2004 and Russian interference in 2016 – sparking a years-long collusion hoax to knee-cap Trump’s presidency. But now, as President Biden’s poll numbers tank, his legislative agenda falters and his party’s 2022 prospects look increasingly grim, they and their media allies are adding a new twist to the tactic: They’re challenging elections before they happen. Prestigious news outlets including the New York Times, Washington Post, the Atlantic, NPR and the New York Review of Books warn that American democracy is under siege. With headlines ripped straight from Democratic Party talking points they argue that Republicans are planning a two-pronged coup to seize power in 2022 and beyond. Step one, they say, is a series of election laws being passed by GOP state legislatures designed to thwart the will of the people. Anyone who has bothered to read these pieces of legislation – which modify but still maintain early voting, mail-in voting, and other open-ballot measures – knows that their impact will be negligible. That hasn’t stopped Biden and others from describing them as “Jim Crow in the 21st Century.” Note this is the same argument they made for years about voter ID laws, which, studies show, do not suppress minority turnout. Further claims that the laws will allow state legislatures to pick the winners despite the tallies is also a fabrication. The intent of this argument is clear – to cast doubt on the legitimacy on all Republican victories. That it is being made by the same people who relentlessly (and correctly) assail Trump’s false claims that he won the 2020 election demonstrates their bad faith." https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/12/29/the_democrats_problem_with_democracy.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 13 hours ago, eyeball said: I'm quite certain I can do that better than anyone who believes they can get by solely on their own opinions about important matters and especially legal ones. The facts in this case include the reality that growing numbers of experts on the topic are increasingly feeling they need to weigh in on the issue of America's deeply troubled and increasingly dysfunctional democracy. Let me guess you're a climate science expert too aren't you? Got every fact you'll ever need right up there eh? (Pats Nationalist on the head). Thanks. Here's a piece of free advise. When the person in front of you steps off the cliff... Don't follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Infidel Dog said: Here's what they're really up to: " Democrats have challenged the legitimacy of every presidential election they’ve lost this millennium: They blamed a corrupt Supreme Court for their defeat in 2000, crooked voting machines in 2004 and Russian interference in 2016 – sparking a years-long collusion hoax to knee-cap Trump’s presidency. But now, as President Biden’s poll numbers tank, his legislative agenda falters and his party’s 2022 prospects look increasingly grim, they and their media allies are adding a new twist to the tactic: They’re challenging elections before they happen. Prestigious news outlets including the New York Times, Washington Post, the Atlantic, NPR and the New York Review of Books warn that American democracy is under siege. With headlines ripped straight from Democratic Party talking points they argue that Republicans are planning a two-pronged coup to seize power in 2022 and beyond. Step one, they say, is a series of election laws being passed by GOP state legislatures designed to thwart the will of the people. Anyone who has bothered to read these pieces of legislation – which modify but still maintain early voting, mail-in voting, and other open-ballot measures – knows that their impact will be negligible. That hasn’t stopped Biden and others from describing them as “Jim Crow in the 21st Century.” Note this is the same argument they made for years about voter ID laws, which, studies show, do not suppress minority turnout. Further claims that the laws will allow state legislatures to pick the winners despite the tallies is also a fabrication. The intent of this argument is clear – to cast doubt on the legitimacy on all Republican victories. That it is being made by the same people who relentlessly (and correctly) assail Trump’s false claims that he won the 2020 election demonstrates their bad faith." https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/12/29/the_democrats_problem_with_democracy.html Democrats have not challenged the legitimacy of past elections. Disagreeing with the result and criticizing opponents tactics while still accepting the outcome is completely different from the Republicans recent coup attempt. The right wing extremists attempted to end democracy in America an prevent the peaceful transfer of power following a free and fair election. Since then, not only have they increased their voter suppression measures but in several states they have now passed laws that give partisan Republican officials the power to arbitrarily declare Republicans the winner of future elections even when they lose. Republicans will trot out these baseless accusations of fraud without any evidence in every election from now on and in these states those false accusations will he used as the pretext to build the Republican dictatorship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Democrats have not challenged the legitimacy of past elections. Disagreeing with the result and criticizing opponents tactics while still accepting the outcome is completely different from the Republicans recent coup attempt. The right wing extremists attempted to end democracy in America an prevent the peaceful transfer of power following a free and fair election. Since then, not only have they increased their voter suppression measures but in several states they have now passed laws that give partisan Republican officials the power to arbitrarily declare Republicans the winner of future elections even when they lose. Republicans will trot out these baseless accusations of fraud without any evidence in every election from now on and in these states those false accusations will he used as the pretext to build the Republican dictatorship. OMG...I think this qualifies as a "Really Big Lie". To this day, Hillary-Billary claims she won the 2016 election. If you want to sway opinions and be considered conscious... Try not making silly and childish statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 13 hours ago, eyeball said: “If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.” David Frum. The wet noodle sell-out who, to this day, is trying to sell the RUSSIA horse pucky. Lol...'Hey David! Must you always be such a loser?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Nationalist said: David Frum. The wet noodle sell-out who, to this day, is trying to sell the RUSSIA horse pucky. Lol...'Hey David! Must you always be such a loser?' Republicans have already proven that Frums statement was bang on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 46 minutes ago, Nationalist said: OMG...I think this qualifies as a "Really Big Lie". To this day, Hillary-Billary claims she won the 2016 election. If you want to sway opinions and be considered conscious... Try not making silly and childish statements. You’re the one making silly statements without your idiotic false comparisons. Hillary’s staments weren't challenging the legitimacy of the election dummy. Trump is the only candidate ever who has refused to formally concede after losing , and the only one to have actually tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power and have himself declared president winner without any evidence. As I’ve said before, an athlete who publicly disagrees with a referee while respecting the result is not “challenging the legitimacy”of the sport and it’s not the same as an athlete who accuses the referee and the entire sports league of corruption and a vast bizarre conspiracy, and tries to steal the trophy for himself while his fans riot storm the league office and attempt to lynch league officials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 You're not doing yourself any favors, Beave. Did you ever hear the one about how the left wants the right to shut up and the right wants the left to keep talking? So...keep talking, Bud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Infidel Dog said: You're not doing yourself any favors, Beave. Did you ever hear the one about how the left wants the right to shut up and the right wants the left to keep talking? So...keep talking, Bud. Yeah but it’s just more of your bullshit that’s not any more true than the rest of your bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 Keep talking, Beave. Proggy desperation is the only cure for my insomnia. Luckily there's lots of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Norris Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 11:32 AM, Nationalist said: If anyone is honest, the riot on January 6th 2021 at the US Capital was very bad for the political class and liberating for half the nation. Should Trump have held that rally? Probably not. But does the nation think the 2020 election was rife with cheating? Yup...to this day irregularities are being uncovered. You have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support that. Its a lie. On 1/7/2022 at 11:32 AM, Nationalist said: So Biden gets on TV and reaffirms the battle lines. For a POTUS who said he was gonna unite people...he's failed in magnificent fashion. That's basically saying trump divided them. I agree but you hate Biden so why the it won't happen. The Libbies are terrified of Trump or anyone the Globalists can't buy. Anyone who opposes Chinese global dominance. Anyone who stands up to nonsense. Trump is now a political dinosaur. The people who voted him out will not reverse that to install him again. Think about it. There is no Chinese dominance of America. That's pure republican propaganda. On 1/7/2022 at 11:32 AM, Nationalist said: "The Big Lie" is that the January 6th riot was an "insurrection" and that the 2020 election was on the up an' up. That election stunk like rotten fish and everyone knows it. Denial of that is both childish and purely political. Out of fear for either Trump...or another. 5 people died and hundreds arrested yet you have the stupidity to suggest it was anything human insurrection. Just a another FITH peaceful protest ay comrade? What we know is you are embarrassed to link it to trump but it's too late now. You supported a coup by a dictator. There's nothing childish about the riots. Only an immature wet behind the ears Republican would suggest that. You need to get a grip on yourself and get some facts. Playing it down and blaming anyone but yourselves is what is childish. You also suggest it's political. You're damn right. That idiot trump try to stop democracy with a coup. That's political. You'vegot no idea about what you are speaking. You are so full of hate and lies you've lost the plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Norris Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 11:39 AM, Nationalist said: Another "Big Lie" is this idea that democracy is under attack and the way to save it is to let people who are not US citizens and indeed anyone cast a vote...with a mail in ballot. For President of The United States. Don't let this happen America. It truly will end democracy. You haven't learnt a thing. It was trump who tried to over throw democracy but you have the gall to suggest drmocrats are un American and traitors etc. Trump is the real fascist and his coup attempt proves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 18 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Republicans have already proven that Frums statement was bang on Oh do tell. This should be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 18 hours ago, BeaverFever said: You’re the one making silly statements without your idiotic false comparisons. Hillary’s staments weren't challenging the legitimacy of the election dummy. Trump is the only candidate ever who has refused to formally concede after losing , and the only one to have actually tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power and have himself declared president winner without any evidence. As I’ve said before, an athlete who publicly disagrees with a referee while respecting the result is not “challenging the legitimacy”of the sport and it’s not the same as an athlete who accuses the referee and the entire sports league of corruption and a vast bizarre conspiracy, and tries to steal the trophy for himself while his fans riot storm the league office and attempt to lynch league officials Gee...not big on US history eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Colin Norris said: You have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support that. Its a lie. Trump is now a political dinosaur. The people who voted him out will not reverse that to install him again. Think about it. There is no Chinese dominance of America. That's pure republican propaganda. Are you a CCP shill? Edited January 10, 2022 by Nationalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Colin Norris said: You haven't learnt a thing. It was trump who tried to over throw democracy but you have the gall to suggest drmocrats are un American and traitors etc. Trump is the real fascist and his coup attempt proves it. Lol...sure...as long as one is willing to ignore all the facts and live in an alternate reality. What silliness. Edited January 10, 2022 by Nationalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 3:29 PM, eyeball said: Sure looks like it alright. So now to the next part, show me the widespread criminal fraud. The election was stolen that means a crime was committed. Not the picayune examples provided above but the organized fraud that resulted in the crime that was allegedly committed. Lol... "OK so there was election fraud...but only a little bit." Nutty as hell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol... "OK so there was election fraud...but only a little bit." Nutty as hell... Little bit as in microscopic, without a single shred of criminality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, eyeball said: Little bit as in microscopic, without a single shred of criminality. https://dailyangle.com/articles/state-election-commissioners-face-criminal-charges-for-2020-actions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Norris Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol...sure...as long as one is willing to ignore all the facts and live in an alternate reality. What silliness. Well perhaps you can identify the democrats who promoted the riot and stood by while it unfolded. Why are you denying it? How can that give your cause credibility when 5 people died and hundreds charged? There's something completely wrong with your acceptance of fact or you are a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 35 minutes ago, Nationalist said: https://dailyangle.com/articles/state-election-commissioners-face-criminal-charges-for-2020-actions Oh yeah, and how's that working out for Sheriff Schmaling anyway? Get the fuck outta here. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Colin Norris said: Well perhaps you can identify the democrats who promoted the riot and stood by while it unfolded. Why are you denying it? How can that give your cause credibility when 5 people died and hundreds charged? There's something completely wrong with your acceptance of fact or you are a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Colin...Baby...1 single person died at the rally and the ensuing riot, as a result of the rally and the ensuing riot. Her name was ASHLI BABBITT. She was a military vet who evidently really upset a gawd damn cop...who drew and fired on an unarmed veteran of the US Military! That's It! The ONLY death that the rally or the ensuing riot claimed.! If you're just going to lie...tell me now please. I do enjoy honest debate. But this...is as I said...silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Norris Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Colin...Baby...1 single person died at the rally and the ensuing riot, as a result of the rally and the ensuing riot. Her name was ASHLI BABBITT. She was a military vet who evidently really upset a gawd damn cop...who drew and fired on an unarmed veteran of the US Military! That's It! The ONLY death that the rally or the ensuing riot claimed.! If you're just going to lie...tell me now please. I do enjoy honest debate. But this...is as I said...silly. The country official figures say 5 died as a result if it and you know that. Why deny it? Babbit should not have been there and as a veteran she would have known that. She was warned and deserved her fate for disobeying the law and participating in a coup attempt. So there it is. Cold hard facts that you cannot deny. Dont make me sick by suggesting you don't lie when you belch rubbish about some pathetic crutch called God. You don't enjoy being challenged nor are you being honest. I Can hear your teeth grinding from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 47 minutes ago, eyeball said: Oh yeah, and how's that working out for Sheriff Schmaling anyway? Get the fuck outta here. LOL! Its being swept under the rug. What else could one expect from a libbie DA? "It was a pandemic!" There is more than ample reason to suspect cheating in that election. The mail-in horse shit is over in enough states to make a real difference. Libbies won't be able to take advantage of the elderly, break laws at will, or have The Rona to hide behind. The RINOs on that sham 1/06 commission will be replaced and by this time next year, both US houses will be in control of the Republicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Its being swept under the rug. What else could one expect from a libbie DA? by this time next year, both US houses will be in control of the Republicans. I don't doubt it - and no doubt the Sheriff Schmalings of the world can hardly wait to get down to business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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