Time to Declare Endemic

[Moonbox]

Clearly I do understand it, you goof, since I know it's what's saving all of the unvaccinated brainlets who get hooked up to ventilators and waste our tax dollars on something that was mostly preventable. 

 

[myata]

Another clear take from this experience (and sadly and ironically we have only the virus to thank for these insights) is that bureaucratic management in the country has reached the level of chaotic randomness (see e.g. "Kafka"). After the initial phase of max six months it was quite clear what the problem is, where it is and in which directions solutions can be found (no, not a glorious war and defeat it forever stpdty, but guess).

And as becoming usual, the unchecked and unaccountable bureaucracy, long out of any practice or even memory of independent and critical thinking got it totally wrong. Despite decades of warnings, it wasn't prepared the system was in shambles unable to handle even regular situation, it had no clue what to do, it could not think rationally, it panicked pumping out fear and anxiety onto the society and that didn't stop it from consuming enormous public funds at an accelerating rate.

On the road to nowhere. Wanna guess what the next pandemic be like?

[Goddess]

https://muse.ai/v/Q2LpZZQ-Toronto-Board-of-Health-January-17-2022-clipped?fbclid=IwAR2BW4cGGEO-FlM0wAMBxn8Fxzb_IuJI53eHr1p4SyQXeB9VQznUpb9kvbo

This is the father of Sean Hartman, the boy who died after the jabs addressing the Toronto Board of Health.  The one Aristedes says is a liar.

I think the most infuriating part of this is, this man lost his son, 4 siblings lost their brother, his mother found him dead in his bedroom and no one is interested in finding out why.

This father had to find a pathologist on his own who could make a determination on cause of death beyond "inconclusive".

Now this public health board tells him that it's HIM who should try to get the 2 pathologists together to talk.  Can you believe that?  He has to investigate his own son's death because the Toronto Public Health board couldn't care less!

[myata]

12 hours ago, Goddess said:

and no one is interested in finding out why.

This is nothing new in this country, sigh. Dr expert pathologist Charlie Smith had a two-decades long highly successful practice in detecting a non-existent "shaken baby syndrome". While being laughed out of a U.S. court on the first appearance. Look how much has changed, inquiries conducted and reports written. Look how much a critical deficiency in independent oversight, checks and critical analysis can do for you.

[Goddess]

I think it was Aristedes that said, "Where's all the whistleblowers?"

I told you there were whistleblowers, but you are being prevented from hearing them.  I think it's all starting to come out now.  Here are three for you to ignore what they're saying.

https://theohiostar.com/2022/01/26/lawyer-thomas-renz-miscarriages-and-cancers-up-300-percent-neurological-problems-up-1000-percent-in-past-year/

I watched Lt. Col Theresa Long's testimony at the first panel.

 

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According to the whistleblowers, miscarriages and cancers have increased by about 300 percent in the past year over the five year average.

Incredibly, the doctors said the data shows a 1000 percent increase in neurological problems, which as Renz noted, affects pilots.

Testifying under the Military Whistleblower Protection Act, Lt. Col. Long told Johnson that she had to ground vaccinated pilots with symptoms of myocarditis out of concern that they could die of heart failure in mid-air, the Washington Times reported.

“I made numerous efforts to get senior medical leaders to at the very least inform soldiers of this risk; my concerns were ignored,” Dr. Long said during the event.

The colonel, an aviation safety officer, said she decided to speak up after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced in June an “emergency meeting to discuss higher than expected myocarditis in 16 to 24-year-olds.”

Despite that announcement, she said “the military didn’t even pause their vaccination efforts” to rush out the Pfizer and Moderna shots.

Renz said that despite what Fauci, Biden, and Big Pharma have been telling the American public about the safety and effectiveness of the three COVID vaccines, the  weekly report said that 71 percent of new cases were in the fully vaccinated and 60 percent of the seniors hospitalized with COVID were fully vaccinated.

As the lawyer noted, the government had these numbers while officials like Dr. Fauci and Joe Biden were calling COVID a “pandemic of the unvaccinated.”

On his website, Renz said: “Even with this high of a number, 60%, the real number is absolutely higher due to the skewed methods of how the government determines who is vaccinated. They are not including those that received 1 dose, only those that received 2 doses and a 14 day window has passed, and now Biden is saying boosters plus 2 shots will put you on the “fully vaccinated” list.. If you get covid within the 14 day window of being vaccinated and die like nearly 50K Medicaid patients did, your death is not counted in these statistics.”

 

 

Edited January 27, 2022 by Goddess

[Zeitgeist]

“If you get covid within the 14 day window of being vaccinated and die like nearly 50K Medicaid patients did, your death is not counted in these statistics.”

If that’s true, Goddess, I can’t imagine the legal implications for sitting governments that impose mandates.  

[Goddess]

21 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

“If you get covid within the 14 day window of being vaccinated and die like nearly 50K Medicaid patients did, your death is not counted in these statistics.”

If that’s true, Goddess, I can’t imagine the legal implications for sitting governments that impose mandates.  

We know 100% in every country that deaths from covid are counted this way - if you die from covid before the 14 days are up OR with just one dose, you are counted as an "unvaccinated" death.  The hospitalizations and ICU counts are done the same way - if you just have one shot or are not past the 14 days post second jab - you counted as "unvaccinated" hospitalization or ICU patient.

This is fact.

This is crimes against humanity.

I believe it's all going to come out eventually.

[Goddess]

The DARPA papers that just came out with the Fauci emails showing he knew the virus was from the Wuhan lab when he testified before congress - he was outright lying and trying to cover up what he's done.

I'm waiting to see what will happen, but imagine if Fauci and cohorts intentionally released the virus, so they could sell vaccines.  There is video of him lamenting the fact that he cannot experiment with his vaccines on humans, that it takes too long to get a vaccine to market.

There's too much sketchy stuff going on here.  But I think we will get to the truth eventually.  More and more people are waking up.

[myata]

Mask and Covid passes are ending in England. This is how we will know what Covidocracy is all about. Is it about public health and safety of the population? Or is it about unaccountable and unchecked authoritarian-like control over the society, indefinitely.

Edited January 27, 2022 by myata

[DogOnPorch]

9 hours ago, Goddess said:

but imagine if Fauci and cohorts intentionally released the virus

Imagine?

[Goddess]

Austria:

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/austria-lift-lockdown-unvaccinated-residents-82480785?fbclid=IwAR1VVsTCy_sQ_9ApkuXgPLlrCTxo7FK-MG3Dbd5ZSMDFSvOtQk1G_scUjdw

[myata]

The pattern is emerging, slowly but clearly:

Some countries have managed this epidemics intelligently and effectively. There were no lockdowns, not in the sense we use here.

Others used measures like restrictions and lockdowns only at the times of peak, where there's real risk of some serious impact (though what it means is decided by each country) and lifted immediately after high risk situation passed

And yet others use the pandemic as a pretext to drag the restrictions and mandates forever, indefinitely "for as long as necessary" with no objective instruments to determine what is necessary. Mask mandates were imposed in a snap, a year and half back. It is not clear what they are doing, doing much, anything since then but is where a chance even a tiny one, to see them lifted in the foreseeable future? Not only it is unlikely it's almost prevented by the very nature of the system: it's much safer for bureaucrats to drag restrictions forever "out of abundance of blah", pile them one upon the other than do something real. No incentives, no drivers no checks, no proof no verification and no explanation needed. When and how could it end, in your view?

Yes it can be as simple as that. The governments will do only and all what they can get away with. No surprises here.

[Aristides]

A lady we know cleans homes for a living and is vaccinated. A few weeks ago she was doing a guys home and heard him on the phone telling someone he had Covid. She immediately put on a mask but it was too late, she had it. She’s OK  but was sick enough that this jerk cost her a weeks work while she recovered. But no big deal right, no one died.

[Zeitgeist]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

A lady we know cleans homes for a living and is vaccinated. A few weeks ago she was doing a guys home and heard him on the phone telling someone he had Covid. She immediately put on a mask but it was too late, she had it. She’s OK  but was sick enough that this jerk cost her a weeks work while she recovered. But no big deal right, no one died.

Did she get sick?  Covid is everywhere.  You may have already had it without knowing.  If you’re sick, stay home.  If you’re really sick, go to the hospital, Covid or otherwise.  

[Aristides]

3 hours ago, myata said:

Mask and Covid passes are ending in England. This is how we will know what Covidocracy is all about. Is it about public health and safety of the population? Or is it about unaccountable and unchecked authoritarian-like control over the society, indefinitely.

Bojo is fighting for his political life over Partygate. The seven day moving average for deaths has more than doubled in the last month.

[Aristides]

5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Did she get sick?  Covid is everywhere.  You may have already had it without knowing.  If you’re sick, stay home.  If you’re really sick, go to the hospital, Covid or otherwise.  

What did I just say? Yes she was quite sick and what kind of Ahole would bring someone into their home when they new they had Covid? For all he knew she might have a condition that put her in higher risk of severe disease.

[myata]

7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Bojo is fighting for his political life over Partygate. The seven day moving average for deaths has more than doubled in the last month.

You're right, and that was the time when the restrictions were in place. The restrictions did not prevent it just like mask and vaccine mandates here. And now the peak is over, there's no rational reason to keep them in place.

[Aristides]

4 minutes ago, myata said:

You're right, and that was the time when the restrictions were in place. The restrictions did not prevent it just like mask and vaccine mandates here. And now the peak is over, there's no rational reason to keep them in place.

England has always been later to bring in restrictions than Scotland and Wales and earlier to lift them. The different death rates show it.

The UK death rate has been steadily climbing since the middle of December.

Edited January 27, 2022 by Aristides

[Goddess]

11 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The UK death rate has been steadily climbing since the middle of December.

The vaccinated death rate is soaring.  Because immune systems are being destroyed. Like thousands of scientists said would happen.

[myata]

8 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The different death rates show it.

We should have China model then. The rate is among the lowest (according to China). One rate was never a reason sufficient to manage the society in an arbitrary way and we have never discussed and accepted the change. No sorry. I haven't agreed to that. Claims are not tantamount to a proven reason. And the more we confuse the two the closer we edge on authoritarianism.

[Aristides]

9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The vaccinated death rate is soaring.  Because immune systems are being destroyed. Like thousands of scientists said would happen.

Ya ya. Per capita, unvaccinated hospitalizations outnumber vaccinated 4 to 1 in BC.

[Goddess]

4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Ya ya. Per capita, unvaccinated hospitalizations outnumber vaccinated 4 to 1 in BC.

Cite?

Your interpretation of data is currently at about 100% wrong, so.....

Cite?

Edited January 27, 2022 by Goddess

[Aristides]

16 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Cite?

Your interpretation of data is currently at about 100% wrong, so.....

Cite?

Actually those are BCCDC numbers for yesterday but believe whatever you want.

[Goddess]

48 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Actually those are BCCDC numbers for yesterday but believe whatever you want.

So, no cite, then.

Okee Dokee.

[Aristides]

10 minutes ago, Goddess said:

So, no cite, then.

Okee Dokee.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-19-update-jan26-1.6328242

 

I know it is a CBC article but it is BCCDC data. Says so right under the chart.

Re Myocarditis.  From BCCDC site

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In rare cases, people have experienced inflammation of the heart following immunization with a COVID-19 mRNA vaccine. Two conditions, called myocarditis and pericarditis, have occurred more often in younger adult and adolescent males and after the second dose. These events have been reported in B.C. at a rate of 1.5 per 100,000 doses of mRNA vaccine administered, and are seen more often after the second dose, and in males under 40 years of age. Most cases will have symptoms within a few days of vaccine receipt.
 

 

Typically, this condition after mRNA vaccines has been mild, with sometimes a brief hospital stay. People have recovered with or without treatment. Studies are ongoing to assess whether there are any residual effects. For further information, visit the U.S. Centres of Disease Control.

 

Edited January 27, 2022 by Aristides