The push is on of the Omicron or Omnicon virus.

[Aristides]

10 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

You have to watch out with what TV calls experts though. There kind of like what leftists call "fact checkers." Too often there's stuff they don't want to tell you. For example:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/covid-antiviral-pills-cause-life-threatening-reactions-when-used-with-many-common-meds-fda_4186839.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=CFP

How is that different from any prescription drug. Almost all can interact badly with some other drugs. Do you ever read the info sheets that come with prescriptions? Has a pharmacist never asked you what other medications  you were on when you went to get a prescription filled? This stuff isn’t a big secret. Even things like Tylenol and Advil can cause serious liver damage over time when mixed with alcohol. Says so right on the container.

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

How is that different from any prescription drug. Almost all can interact badly with some other drugs. Do you ever read the info sheets that come with prescriptions? Has a pharmacist never asked you what other medications  you were on when you went to get a prescription filled? This stuff isn’t a big secret. Even things like Tylenol and Advil can cause serious liver damage over time when mixed with alcohol. Says so right on the container.

If you actually believe everything you just typed here, then why are you "for" forcing literally everyone, from newborn babies to 100 year olds, to get an experimental vaccine for which YOU are both the long and short term research?

[Aristides]

14 minutes ago, Goddess said:

If you actually believe everything you just typed here, then why are you "for" forcing literally everyone, from newborn babies to 100 year olds, to get an experimental vaccine for which YOU are both the long and short term research?

The comments were about Pfizer's covid pill, not the vaccine. Ivermectin can also cause serious liver damage if mixed with alcohol and is not prescribed for patients with liver damage or cancer patients.  In fact, not a lot is known about it's complications or drug interactions because river blindness was all it was used for in humans until covid came a long. But you guys would never look into or care about its side effects or interactions.  The use of Ivermectin in humans for  Covid is totally experimental but you don't give a shit because it fits your conspiracy narrative.

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[Goddess]

7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

because river blindness was all it was used for in humans until covid came a long.

Where the HE double hockey sticks do you get your information from?  That statement is totally false.

 

7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The comments were about Pfizer's covid pill, not the vaccine.

You do realize that vaccines are a medical intervention that affect people differently, right?  And that not all vaccines are recommended for ALL patients.  Except for this one.  Everyone must take it, even if it makes your health issues worse.

[Aristides]

13 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Where the HE double hockey sticks do you get your information from?  That statement is totally false.

 

 

It is an anti parasite drug, Covid is a virus. It is totally experimental for use with Covid patients.

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You do realize that vaccines are a medical intervention that affect people differently, right?  And that not all vaccines are recommended for ALL patients.  Except for this one.  Everyone must take it, even if it makes your health issues worse.

All drugs affect people differently and not all drugs are recommended for ALL patients. No one is being forced to take the vaccinations and if they have medical issues that make a vaccine problematical they will not be given it. That's why you fill out a questionnaire before getting a flu or covid shot.

Edited January 4, 2022 by Aristides

[Goddess]

6 minutes ago, Aristides said:

and if they have medical issues that make a vaccine problematical they will not be given it.

Also false.

Doctors were having their licenses removed for providing exemptions, so no doctor will provide an exemption now.

My sister had such a bad adverse reaction to the first jab, she didn't want the second one.  She was forced to do it anyways, to be able to work.  Ironically, after the second jab, she can barely work or function and Public Health told her NOT to take any boosters.  However,  doctors are not allowed to write exemptions, so when the boosters become forced as well (and they will), she will be forced to get them all or be ostracized from society.  Her "choice" like many others, is "Take this jab and die or starve to death."

Wake up.  Wake up.  Wake up.

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[Aristides]

Just now, Goddess said:

Also false.

Doctors were having their licenses removed for providing exemptions, so no doctor will provide an exemption now.

My sister had such a bad adverse reaction to the first jab, she didn't want the second one.  She was forced to do it anyways, to be able to work.  Ironically, after the second jab, she can barely work or function and Public Health told her NOT to take any boosters.  However,  doctors are not allowed to write exemptions, so when the boosters become forced as well (and they will), she will be forced to get them all or be ostracized from society.

Wake up.  Wake up.  Wake up.

After all our shots our health region did email followups on any reactions we may have had. Of course doctors can write exemptions but can't sell them like some quacks were doing.

[Goddess]

31 minutes ago, Aristides said:

because river blindness was all it was used for in humans until covid came a long.

I guess you didn't read the case that was posted here (several times) about the nursing home in France that all survived covid because they had all recently been given ivermectin for a scabies outbreak.

Please educate yourself.

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

After all our shots our health region did email followups on any reactions we may have had. Of course doctors can write exemptions but can't sell them like some quacks were doing.

Yes, public health will follow up with SOME adverse reactions.

No, doctors are NOT allowed to write exemptions.

The only people in Canada who have received exemptions are the governmental elite.

Wakey, Wakey.

[Aristides]

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I guess you didn't read the case that was posted here (several times) about the nursing home in France that all survived covid because they had all recently been given ivermectin for a scabies outbreak.

Please educate yourself.

There you go again, Your reject vaccines that have gone through three stages of approval involving hundreds of thousands of people as experimental but accept anecdotal articles about some nursing home in France as proof that Ivermectin is safe and effective for everyone, 

[Aristides]

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Yes, public health will follow up with SOME adverse reactions.

No, doctors are NOT allowed to write exemptions.

The only people in Canada who have received exemptions are the governmental elite.

Wakey, Wakey.

Doctors are not allowed to write exemptions for non medical reasons. A doctor in CT had to surrender her license because she was mailing out signed blank vaccine and mask exemptions. And so she should, I want a doctor who is a professional, not an activist.

Our public health will follow up if you tick the box on the questionnaire that allows them to contact you.

Edited January 4, 2022 by Aristides

[Goddess]

Just now, Aristides said:

Your reject vaccines that have gone through three stages of approval involving hundreds of thousands of people as experimental

Are you for real?????

Seriously, everything you are saying is false.

For gawd's sake, read the damn first 500 pages of the "trials" that Pfizer was FORCED to make public! 

YOU. YOU are the trials.

Wakey, Wakey.

 

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Doctors are not allowed to write exemptions for non medical reasons. A doctor in CT had to surrender her license because she was mailing out signed blank vaccine and mask exemptions. And so she should.

Yes, because medical decisions should never be between a patient and their doctor.  They should always be between the government and the doctor.  What the patient wants is irrelevant, right? ?

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

Yes, because medical decisions should never be between a patient and their doctor.  They should always be between the government and the doctor.  What the patient wants is irrelevant, right? ?

Doctors are professionals and have to abide by professional standards. That is for you protection.

[Aristides]

7 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Are you for real?????

Seriously, everything you are saying is false.

For gawd's sake, read the damn first 500 pages of the "trials" that Pfizer was FORCED to make public! 

YOU. YOU are the trials.

Wakey, Wakey.

 

What about them? Have you read them?

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Doctors are professionals and have to abide by professional standards. That is for you protection.

You are soooo uneducated about even the basics of medical knowledge and ethics, it's not hard to see why you are so easily duped. ?

[Goddess]

Just now, Aristides said:

What about them? Have you read them?

You bet I did.

[Aristides]

7 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You bet I did.

All 500 pages? What did they say?

[Aristides]

7 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You are soooo uneducated about even the basics of medical knowledge and ethics, it's not hard to see why you are so easily duped. ?

You are so uneducated about professional ethics. Doctors can't do anything they want. They can't give you a prescription for heroin just because you asked for it. 

[myata]

As heard this morning, the hospitalization rate for omicron is 1/100 (cases, not population). Now, with early treatments like monoclonal therapy, paxlovid and others, that can be reduced by up to another factor of ten. One or a few hospitalizations in a thousand cases is quite the same as flu. So, the question is not whether Covid is a flu; but it can be like a flu with the right organization, operation and management of the system; or it can be a "tsunami". We make it one or the other, not the virus. And looks like we've made our choice.

[Infidel Dog]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Just mere influence you say? This influence you imagine is actually conservatives as a whole gaslighting themselves into a bloody froth. 

Probably make me more sad than anything knowing how are completely beyond reach so many of you have become. 

I don't think I did say that. If I did why would I put the word "and" before it"

You don't have a side, you say. 

[Goddess]

34 minutes ago, Aristides said:

All 500 pages? What did they say?

I did read all 500 pages.  Printed it off and read it over several nights.  I noticed several things right away that alarmed me.  The biggest one is that they eliminated the control group VERY early on.  That is a HUGE No-No.  Massive No-No.

Then (because while I do understand quite a lot of medical stuff and how clinical trials are to be conducted, I am not trained in virology or immunology), I read what Pfizer-paid doctors and scientists had to say about the 500 pages AND I also read what independent, non-biased doctors and scientists had to say about them, so as to fill in the gaps of my knowledge.

I think, actually, that the release of those 500 pages may be what is starting to wake up some of the media - some of whom are now doing actual investigative journalism instead of just propaganda - and doctors - some of whom are realizing that forcing this experimental vaccine on everyone without regard to previous or future health issues, is a violation of the Hippocratic Oath and against the Nuremburg Code.

Maybe you could start off by searching for the Great Barrington Declaration?  That's an interesting read.

 

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by Goddess

[DogOnPorch]

I'd just like to point out that if this was truly a deadly virus or bacteria, you wouldn't need to be reminded of that fact daily without evidence by your dear leaders. 

 

[Aristides]

18 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I did read all 500 pages.  Printed it off and read it over several nights.  I noticed several things right away that alarmed me.  The biggest one is that they eliminated the control group VERY early on.  That is a HUGE No-No.  Massive No-No.

Then (because while I do understand quite a lot of medical stuff and how clinical trials are to be conducted, I am not trained in virology or immunology), I read what Pfizer-paid doctors and scientists had to say about the 500 pages AND I also read what independent, non-biased doctors and scientists had to say about them, so as to fill in the gaps of my knowledge.

I think, actually, that the release of those 500 pages may be what is starting to wake up some of the media - some of whom are now doing actual investigative journalism instead of just propaganda - and doctors - some of whom are realizing that forcing this experimental vaccine on everyone without regard to previous or future health issues, is a violation of the Hippocratic Oath and against the Nuremburg Code.

Maybe you could start of by searching for the Great Barrington Declaration?  That's an interesting read.

 

 

You do understand that the issue is Pfizer wanting to release only 500 pages a month to fulfill a FOI from the FDA, not 500 pages total. Are you downloading 500 pages every month and reading them? To fulfill the FOI request as demanded by the FDA they would need to release 80,000 pages a month but they say they don't have the capacity to do that. If they do, are you prepared to read all of them?

I've seen it but like most of those who propose to "protect the vulnerable" and let everyone else do their thing, they have no idea how to "protect the vulnerable" and the declaration gives no practical details on how to do it.

Edited January 4, 2022 by Aristides

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

If they do, are you prepared to read all of them?

As much as I can.

Which is better than you reading none of them.