Desperate Republican texts during Jan 6 insurrection

[ironstone]

Democrats Decry Gerrymandering While Using It To Gain Power (thefederalist.com)

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

Bullshit.

I can into greater detail if you like but basically: bullshit.

 

There’s no other way to describe mob trying to kidnap/assassinate the VP and members of Congress, and prevent the results of the election from being realized. 
 

I get it, you people think Trump would be a great leader. The greatest ever. You think he would make life in America so great that nobody would care that he’s a dictator who seized power in a coup, people would just consider that an irrelevant technicality.   There were many Europeans who thought like that in first half of the 20th Century 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

You might want to go back and read my earlier post about winning elections and staying in power. 

The Jan 6 riot was amateur hour and most certainly NOT a coordinated attempt at a coup. It's ridiculous to suggest it.

It was an uncoordinated attempt at a coup…as far as we know . Small difference   The mark Meadows PowerPoint shows they were planning many coordinated attempts through political channels rather than mob violence…including trying to convince pence of the lie that there’s a super-secret clause in the constitution that as VP he can just name himself and Trump to be the winner of the election at his discretion….all of which failed to materialize…

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, eyeball said:

 You'd have to be pretty deep into partisan denial to imagine January 6th was the nothing-burger it's presently being billed as.

No one is saying that it was a nothingburger, but everyone, Pelosi included, knows that this is just political theatre at the level that the Dems are hyping it.

For sure there were some people who committed serious crimes, for which they should be punished, but no more so than hundreds of BLM protestors who weren't even charged with anything. Using guns to overrun a police station and then declaring autonomy over US soil was no less serious than what the Jan 6 guys did. The CHAZIS even murdered a 16 yr old kid while they were playing Lord Of The Flies. Crickets....

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

False equivalency and false facts. The attack on the Capitol was an attempt to and American democracy. The mob wanted to kill or kidnap the VP and members of Congress and prevent the peaceful Democratic transition of government. 
 

And the police presence at the Capitol that day was no where near as heavy handed as it was at BLM protests. 
 

Many BLM rioters were convicted of serious crimes and many of those were sentenced to multiple years of jail time …more so than the Trump coup attempt plotters.  

This is nothing but stupidity and blatant lies. 

Can you name one BLM rioter that was shot by police in all the years of rioting since Michael Brown? 

The bar for getting jail time at the BLM riots was set at "lit a building on fire or killed someone". 

[Infidel Dog]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

There’s no other way to describe mob trying to kidnap/assassinate the VP and members of Congress, and prevent the results of the election from being realized. 

Didn't happen.

Just another one of those 'only in Beaveworld' things.

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

Didn't happen.

Just another one of those 'only in Beaveworld' things.

Beaverworld aka reality. Ones again you’re so out of touch in your propaganda bubble. There is ample footage of the mob chanting “hang mike pence” as they stormed the Capitol 

And of course many had zip ties with them and many said out loud that they we’re going to kill Pelosi or AOC or whoever 

 

 

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

This is nothing but stupidity and blatant lies. 

Can you name one BLM rioter that was shot by police in all the years of rioting since Michael Brown? 

The bar for getting jail time at the BLM riots was set at "lit a building on fire or killed someone". 

No lies my post is 100% correct, not that you would know.
 

Police don’t shoot people to prevent property damage. That said , at least 9 BLM protesters were killed in 2020, one of them was shot by a cop and the rest by right wing counter-protesters like Rittenhouse. 

Meanwhile the right’s new Martyr, St Babbit tried to breach the Senate Chamber door where the Senators were still being evacuated   The Capitol Poiilce had no more room to fall back and would-be victims to protect  Babbit ignored warnings and guns pointed at her 

 

Republican Representative Markwayne Mullin, a witness to Babbit's attempted breach, said that the Capitol Police "didn't have a choice" but to shoot, and that this action "saved people's lives"

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

This is nothing but stupidity and blatant lies. 

Can you name one BLM rioter that was shot by police in all the years of rioting since Michael Brown? 

The bar for getting jail time at the BLM riots was set at "lit a building on fire or killed someone". 

 

Authorities Harder On George Floyd Protesters Than Jan. 6 Rioters: Report

Republicans claim the Justice Department is treating alleged insurrectionists harshly because of their political views, but court records tell a different story.

08/30/2021 05:17pm EDT
 

An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal cases stemming from the protestssparked by George Floyd’s death last year shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes and sent to prison.

The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.
 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/insurrectionists-have-easier-george-floyd-protesters_n_612d47a4e4b01d0862f3ffa9
 

Utah BLM protesters could get life in prison for splashing paint
 

Some Black Lives Matter protesters in Salt Lake City could face up to life in prison if they are convicted of splashing red paint and smashing windows during a protest.

The potential punishment stands out among demonstrators arrested around the country and critics say it does not fit the alleged crime.
 

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/07/utah-black-lives-matter-protesters-life-prison-paint
 

AP tally: Arrests at widespread US protests hit 10,000
 

PHOENIX (AP) — More than 10,000 people have been arrested in protests decrying racism and police brutality in the wake of George Floyd’s death, according to an Associated Press tally of known arrests across the U.S.

The count has grown by the hundreds each day as protesters spilled into the streets and encountered a heavy police presence and curfews that give law enforcement stepped-up arrest powers.
 

https://apnews.com/article/american-protests-us-news-arrests-minnesota-burglary-bb2404f9b13c8b53b94c73f818f6a0b7

Edited December 17, 2021 by BeaverFever

[Infidel Dog]

4 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Beaverworld aka reality.

 

I see. So in Beaveworld reality that little corner of protesters chanting means "the mob" was "trying to kidnap/assassinate the VP and members of Congress," does it?

Kind of a hyperbolic reaction, don't you think? No?

So what was the scoop in the special reality of Beaveworld when this happened on Trump's inauguration day?

Police injured, more than 200 arrested at Trump inauguration protests in DC

Was that a coup attempt? 

How about this?

Fires light up Washington DC on third night of George Floyd protests

Was there any chatter in Beaveworld about a coup when Madonna incited her woman's march mob with fantasies about blowing up the whitehouse? Kathy Griffin holding Trump's bleeding effigy head? The assassination of Trump play?

And if one corner of the protesters that invaded the capital chanting against Pence means coup in Beaveworld what would another corner of the protests mean where patriots were kicking people out of Pence's chair because it showed a lack of respect for the office mean? I know the answer. In Beaveworld it didn't happen. Except in this reality that and many other examples of protesters protecting the capital did happen.

https://conservativeus.com/unseen-video-from-u-s-capitol-riots-shows-trump-supporters-trying-to-stop-rioters-from-sitting-in-vp-chair-and-destroying-the-capitol-no-msm-coverage/

Your reality is not our reality Bud. It's Beavey's special place.

 

Edited December 17, 2021 by Infidel Dog

[ironstone]

Some more new information about Jan 6 has come to light.

J6 Committee Fabricates More Evidence, Says Trump Waited Hours To Act (thefederalist.com)

Liz Cheney had been making some more false claims.

[BeaverFever]

5 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

I see. So in Beaveworld reality that little corner of protesters chanting means "the mob" was "trying to kidnap/assassinate the VP and members of Congress," does it?

Kind of a hyperbolic reaction, don't you think? No?

So what was the scoop in the special reality of Beaveworld when this happened on Trump's inauguration day?

Police injured, more than 200 arrested at Trump inauguration protests in DC

Was that a coup attempt? 

How about this?

Fires light up Washington DC on third night of George Floyd protests

Was there any chatter in Beaveworld about a coup when Madonna incited her woman's march mob with fantasies about blowing up the whitehouse? Kathy Griffin holding Trump's bleeding effigy head? The assassination of Trump play?

And if one corner of the protesters that invaded the capital chanting against Pence means coup in Beaveworld what would another corner of the protests mean where patriots were kicking people out of Pence's chair because it showed a lack of respect for the office mean? I know the answer. In Beaveworld it didn't happen. Except in this reality that and many other examples of protesters protecting the capital did happen.

https://conservativeus.com/unseen-video-from-u-s-capitol-riots-shows-trump-supporters-trying-to-stop-rioters-from-sitting-in-vp-chair-and-destroying-the-capitol-no-msm-coverage/

Your reality is not our reality Bud. It's Beavey's special place.

 

You’re just totally making up the part about it being “a little corner”. How many of them would it take to lynch an elderly man anyway?  How many murderous extremists in your ranks is a non-significant number?  Even if 75% of the rioters were non-violent protesters and 25% were terrorists bent on murder, does that make it ok in Fiddle excuse land?

 

The anti-Trump protests weren’t trying to storm the Capitol, overthow the government or overturn the results of the election   They were just protests in the street  False equivalence, once again  

 

 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

Some more new information about Jan 6 has come to light.

J6 Committee Fabricates More Evidence, Says Trump Waited Hours To Act (thefederalist.com)

Liz Cheney had been making some more false claims.

Not false at all. 1:10 pm to 4:17 pm when he released a recording condemning the violence is 187 minutes.   The tweets he sent in between with vague references to “staying peaceful” without actually acknowledging much less condemning the violence and security breach don’t count as “taking action”. Especially since many of those tweets fanned the flames and validated the rioters sense of outrage by repeating his election lies and denouncements of mike pence, even after he was informed that the Capitol was breached and Pence had been placed in protection and removed from the chamber   Even his final recording video told the rioters “e love you, you’re very special” and neither acknowledged nor condemned the violence. Simply saying “go home now” doesn’t count either. 

[WestCanMan]

11 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

No lies my post is 100% correct, not that you would know.
 

Police don’t shoot people to prevent property damage.

Police don't shoot unarmed women either.  

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That said , at least 9 BLM protesters were killed in 2020, one of them was shot by a cop and the rest by right wing counter-protesters like Rittenhouse. 

Cite.

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Meanwhile the right’s new Martyr, St Babbit tried to breach the Senate Chamber door where the Senators were still being evacuated   The Capitol Poiilce had no more room to fall back and would-be victims to protect  Babbit ignored warnings and guns pointed at her 

Uh, gee Beave, is there no other way for a bunch of cops to stop an unarmed 110 lb girl? 

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Republican Representative Markwayne Mullin, a witness to Babbit's attempted breach, said that the Capitol Police "didn't have a choice" but to shoot, and that this action "saved people's lives"

Yeah for sure. There are plenty of reasons to believe that Ashley Babbitt was about to kill a bunch of people. Either that or you're a dipshit. 

[WestCanMan]

11 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

 

Authorities Harder On George Floyd Protesters Than Jan. 6 Rioters: Report

Republicans claim the Justice Department is treating alleged insurrectionists harshly because of their political views, but court records tell a different story.

08/30/2021 05:17pm EDT
 

An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal cases stemming from the protestssparked by George Floyd’s death last year shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes and sent to prison.

The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.
 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/insurrectionists-have-easier-george-floyd-protesters_n_612d47a4e4b01d0862f3ffa9
 

Utah BLM protesters could get life in prison for splashing paint
 

Some Black Lives Matter protesters in Salt Lake City could face up to life in prison if they are convicted of splashing red paint and smashing windows during a protest.

The potential punishment stands out among demonstrators arrested around the country and critics say it does not fit the alleged crime.
 

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/07/utah-black-lives-matter-protesters-life-prison-paint
 

AP tally: Arrests at widespread US protests hit 10,000
 

PHOENIX (AP) — More than 10,000 people have been arrested in protests decrying racism and police brutality in the wake of George Floyd’s death, according to an Associated Press tally of known arrests across the U.S.

The count has grown by the hundreds each day as protesters spilled into the streets and encountered a heavy police presence and curfews that give law enforcement stepped-up arrest powers.
 

https://apnews.com/article/american-protests-us-news-arrests-minnesota-burglary-bb2404f9b13c8b53b94c73f818f6a0b7

That's just more of your abject stupidity. "Protests"? Do people steal TVs at "protests"? Is burning down buildings a form of "protest"? Is killing innocent people a form of "Protest"? 

Where was there "a heavy police presence"? And if there was then why did he same cities burn night after night?

There was billions of dollars worth of property damage over 4 years of rioting, assaults, arson, looting and murders. 120 people were sentenced in all of that? That's way short of 1 per riot. That's less than 1 for every ten officers that were assaulted.

Of the 10,000 people that were 'arrested', government officials like Kamala Harris bailed them out of jail when they couldn't just get their DAs to let them out instantly.

Did Jan 6th protestors get let out instantly, or were they held in solitary confinement for months without even having any charges laid against them? 

Everything that you say is just entirely stupid or blatant lies. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Not false at all. 1:10 pm to 4:17 pm when he released a recording condemning the violence is 187 minutes.   The tweets he sent in between with vague references to “staying peaceful” without actually acknowledging much less condemning the violence and security breach don’t count as “taking action”. Especially since many of those tweets fanned the flames and validated the rioters sense of outrage by repeating his election lies and denouncements of mike pence, even after he was informed that the Capitol was breached and Pence had been placed in protection and removed from the chamber   Even his final recording video told the rioters “e love you, you’re very special” and neither acknowledged nor condemned the violence. Simply saying “go home now” doesn’t count either. 

More lies and stupidity. 

Trump sent out many messages asking for peace within the first 90 minutes.

How many times did Obama call for peace in 3 full years of rioting? 

Your double standard is pathetic, but at least you're consistent. 

[WestCanMan]

Math:

$2B+ in damages from BLM riots in 2020

According to Beave stats, which theoretically indicated that BLMers were punished more harshly than Jan 6ers, 120 went to jail. 120 people in jail x $20,000,000 each is $2.4B.

So, by the Beave, the bar was set to approximately $20,000,000 for a BLM rioter to get jailtime, and that's if no one went to jail for the assaults and murders. 

 

[WestCanMan]

https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8

At least now I know where Beave gets his idiotc bullshit from now ?

AP was the ones saying that BLMers were punished more harshly than Jan 6ers.

OMG - 120 people were charged criminally!!!

for $2.4B in property dmages, so it takes about $20M worth of damage per BLM sentence. 

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, ironstone said:

Liz Cheney had been making some more false claims.

It's called "building up your resume for CNN because you know that your political career is over". 

If she falsely accuses enough people of racism she can even get a job at MSNBC.

[Infidel Dog]

6 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

You’re just totally making up the part about it being “a little corner”. How many of them would it take to lynch an elderly man anyway?  

What your video showed was a little corner with about 10 chanters.

Why? Did it look much bigger in Beaveworld?

[Infidel Dog]

47 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's called "building up your resume for CNN because you know that your political career is over". 

If she falsely accuses enough people of racism she can even get a job at MSNBC.

Tucker was saying she's pretty much become a permanent fixture at CNN already. 

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Tucker was saying she's pretty much become a permanent fixture at CNN already. 

A damning indictment if there ever was one. 

[WestCanMan]

@BeaverFever You were too cowardly to name your favourite news sources, but you cited an article from AP so I just decided to carve those losers up for you. 

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It’s a common refrain from some of those charged in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol and their Republican allies: The Justice Department is treating them harshly because of their political views while those arrested during last year’s protests over racial injustice were given leniency.

Court records tell a different story.

The underlined was a lie, see below.

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An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal cases stemming from the protests sparked by George Floyd’s death last year shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes and sent to prison.

Right about here the penny should have dropped for you if you have any brains at all. FYI "Dozens of people" didn't manage to loot all of those stores, assault and kill so many people, and cause billions of dollars worth of property damages. A LOT of people got off Scot-free for committing extremely serious crimes. 

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The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.

 

Here's where the math comes in: 2+ billion dollars divided by 120 criminals equals 20 million dollars in damages per charge, and that doesn't even account for a single one of the people murdered or assaulted. 

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FULL COVERAGE: CAPITOL SIEGE

– House panel seeks records from tech companies in riot probe

– Capitol Police officers sue Trump, allies over insurrection

Did Obama get sued for egging on riots? Kamala? Pelosi? How many police departments sued those guys? Their support was happening during and after the riots, and it went on for years. 

Demmies act like Trump was too slow to respond, he sent out 3 tweets in the first 90 minutes. Obama didn't send out 3 tweets in 3 years condemning the violence. All he did was egg it on. 

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– AP PHOTOS: Scenes of violence at U.S. Capitol shock world

Videos of murders during the BLM riots also shocked the world.

Does AP link them? No?

Why not, it seems like an important part of the story. 

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The dissonance between the rhetoric of Capitol rioters and their supporters and the record established by courts highlights both the racial tension inherent in their arguments — the pro-Donald Trump rioters were largely white and last summer’s protesters were more diverse — and the flawed assessment at the heart of their claims.

 

LIE.

Virtue signalling bullshit.

No one ever said that the Capitol riots weren't bad, so there are no "supporters". Conservatives said right from the first second that they started happening that it was wrong.

They just CORRECTLY STATED that leftards are hypocrites for suddenly caring about cops and rioting when it happened at their doorstep.

Do you know how many Americans were killed, assaulted and had their neighbourhoods destroyed while the Dems cheered?  

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“The property damage or accusations of arson and looting from last year, those were serious and they were dealt with seriously, but they weren’t an attack on the very core constitutional processes that we rely on in a democracy, nor were they an attack on the United States Congress,” said Kent Greenfield, a professor at Boston College Law School.

LIE.

They were not dealt with seriously at all. 

Tens of thousands of people who committed felony-level crimes like assaulting officers & civilians were released without charges or had their bail paid by a jubilant Kamala Harris and her equally stupid peers. 

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To be sure, some defendants have received lenient deals.

 

LIE.

Several thousand felons got off without any charges at all. 

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At least 19 who have been sentenced across the country got no prison time or time served, according to the AP’s review. Many pleaded guilty to lower-level offenses, such as misdemeanor assault, but some were convicted of more serious charges, including civil disorder.

 

Time served or no time for assaulting people as part of a mob...? 

And this is just the 19 that were even charged at all. 

Civil disorder? Not terrorism? They literally terrorized neighbourhoods and murdered people for their own political purposes. 

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In Portland, Oregon — where demonstrations, many turning violent, occurred nightly for monthsafter a white Minneapolis police officer killed Floyd — about 60 of the roughly 100 cases that were brought have been dismissed, court records show.

 

 

This is a perfect example of how the BLM riots were treated far more lightly.

Instead of letting the riots go on for 100 days and refusing to bring in the national guard they brought in 20,000 national guard the very next day.

Instead of dismissing 60% of people right away they locked people in solitary for months without even laying any charges. 

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Most of those defendants received deferred resolution agreements, under which prosecutors promise to drop charges after a certain amount of time if the defendant stays out of trouble and completes things like community service. Some Jan. 6 defendants have complained it’s unfair they aren’t getting the same deals

That's close to the truth

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But President Joe Biden’s Justice Department has continued the vast majority of the racial injustice protest cases brought across the U.S. under Trump and has often pushed for lengthy prison time for people convicted of serious crimes. Since Biden took office in January, federal prosecutors have brought some new cases stemming from last year’s protests.

"Racial injustice protest cases" lol. When you say it that way, doesn't it seem like they shouldn't be going to jail?

The bias is visible from outer space ffs. 

How about "arson, looting, felony assault and murder cases"? No? We can't use the actual words to describe them? 

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Conservatives have sought to equate the attack on the Capitol with the Black Lives Matter protests, accusing Democrats of being hypocrites for not denouncing the violence after Floyd’s death as loudly as the Jan. 6 insurrection. And some Republicans have seized on the handling of the protest cases in Portland to suggest that the Jan. 6 defendants are being politically persecuted.

Lies.

There was never an "attack on the capitol" and there are zero charges stemming from BLM 'protests'. Just from BLM 'riots'. 

Conservatives sought to equate rioting at federal buildings in one place with rioting at federal buildings in another place. Seems to make sense, right? 

Floyd's death had nothing to do with the riots, the riots happened because Dems and leftist falsely attributed Floyd's death to racism when there was never any evidence of that at all. Tony Timpa was killed the exact same way and racism was never mentioned as a cause of his death. 

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That has not been borne out when comparing the sentences that federal judges have given to Jan. 6 defendants and those who are accused of crimes during the protests against police brutality across the country.

Only a handful of the nearly 600 people who’ve been charged in the insurrection have received their punishments so far, and just three people have been sentenced to time behind bars. The vast majority of the most serious cases — involving those accused of assaulting police officers or conspiring to block the certification of Biden’s victory — remain unresolved.

More lies.

1) They never use the word riot regarding the BLM riots, but it is the only accurate word to describe them; however, they use the word insurrection on the Jan 6 riot, while the FBI still have no evidence of an 'insurrection'.

2) Over 2,000 officers were injured in the BLM riots and only 120 people have charged with any crimes at all. 

Exactly 5 times as many people have been charged in the capitol riot and 1/15th as many cops were injured. 

 

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The catalysts for the riot and the demonstrations for racial justice were also fundamentally different.

The mob of Trump supporters whipped up by the former president’s lies about the electiondescended on the Capitol and pushed past police barriers, assaulted officers, smashed windows and sent lawmakers running in a stunning attempt to overturn the presidential election.

More lies. Are you keeping score Beave?

No one ever attempted to overturn the election at the capitol 'electoral justice rally'. (see how words make a difference?)

 

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The demonstrations after Floyd’s death were largely peaceful calls to address racial inequality and police brutality that occasionally turned violent. In some cities, protests descended into chaos after dark, with people smashing windows, looting stores, setting fires and assaulting officers.

Lies.

The violence wasn't occasional, it happened night after night in the exact same places. That's the exact opposite of the word 'occasional'. They also left out the fact that people were murdered. 

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Shamar Betts, who was 19 at the time, posted a flyer on Facebook on May 31, 2020, that said “RIOT @ MarketPlace Mall” at 3 p.m. and instructed people to bring “friends & family, posters, bricks, bookbags etc.” He participated in the looting, went live on Facebook during the riot and bragged about starting it, authorities said. More than 70 stores were looted, and the riot caused $1.8 million in damage, prosecutors said. 

Betts’ lawyer, Elisabeth Pollock, said Betts was frustrated about police brutality across the U.S., had lost his job because of the coronavirus outbreak and never intended to hurt anyone. Prosecutors pushed for the maximum punishment of five years in prison and the maximum restitution amount for Betts, who had no criminal history, she said.

“They took into account not a single mitigating factor: nothing about how he grew up, nothing about about how the George Floyd protests had affected the community, nothing about how the pandemic had affected Shamar personally and the community. There was absolutely no quarter given to him at all,” his attorney said in an interview.

OMFG, cue the violins for that poor man!

Mitigating factor? Not by a long shot. 4 years and repaying $1.5M in damages is light. 

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In another case this month, an Illinois man was sentenced to nearly nine years behind bars for lighting a Minneapolis cellphone store on fire in June 2020.

This is a lie because there's not a cite to back it up. 

I can guarantee that there's much more to it than that. 

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A Charleston, South Carolina, man who livestreamed himself looting a store downtown was sentenced to two years in prison.

That actually seems fair, but he probably broke the window himself, which actually makes it much worse than just looting. 

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In the Capitol riot, dozens of defendants have been charged only with misdemeanors, and a standard plea deal has allowed many to plead guilty to a single count of demonstrating in the Capitol.

 

They were charged with misdemeanours for what? A lot of them committed misdemeanours or less. 

Talk about false equivalencies...

If this stupid asshole wants everyone who went to the capitol charged with felonies then guess what? He should also be saying that everyone who went to the riots should be charged with felonies. OH SNAP!

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An Indiana woman who admitted illegally entering the Capitol but didn’t participate in any violence or destruction avoided jail time, and two other misdemeanor defendants got one and two months of home confinement. Two other people who were locked up pretrial were released after pleading guilty to misdemeanors and serving the maximum six-month jail sentence.

Six months? Some of those people walked in with cops right there by the door allowing them to gain entry. Looks a lot like entrapment. 

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Only one defendant convicted of a felony has received his punishment so far. Paul Hodgkins, who breached the U.S. Senate chamber carrying a Trump campaign flag, was ordered to serve eight months behind bars.

The political fighting over the cases comes as some Republicans in Washington have tried to downplay the attack on the Capitol, with many of them portraying the siege as a mostly peaceful protest despite the shocking violence that unfolded on live TV.

?

What a stupid, lying piece of shit.

He literally typed thousands of words above, all downplaying the massive amount of violence and destruction of the riots, and then complained about some Republicans who used the Dems' own words against them. 

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In a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland in June, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and four other Republican senators expressed concern about “potential unequal administration of justice” in how prosecutors have responded to the Jan. 6 riot and the Black Lives Matter protests.

Despite “numerous examples of violence” during last year’s protests, they said “it appears that individuals charged with committing crimes at these events may benefit from infrequent prosecutions and minimal, if any, penalties” and claimed the Justice Department’s “apparent unwillingness” to punish them stands in “stark contrast to the harsher treatment” of the Capitol defendants.

Cruz and the GOP senators were 100.0% correct.

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One Jan. 6 defendant has similarly accused the Justice Department of selective prosecution based on different political viewpoints, comparing his case with how the department has handled charges stemming from the Portland protests.

Garrett Miller, of Texas, was wearing a T-shirt that said, “I Was There, Washington D.C., January 6, 2021,” when he was arrested. Prosecutors say Miller posted threatening messages on Twitter directed at Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a New York Democrat, after the riot. His lawyer said Miller isn’t trying to excuse his actions.

“Nevertheless, Mr. Miller should not be treated differently based upon the political views he espoused viz-a-viz the political views espoused by the Portland rioters,” his attorney, F. Clinton Broden, wrote in recent court papers.

Federal prosecutors say Miller hasn’t presented any evidence that his case was politically motivated.

They also rejected comparisons between Miller’s actions and those of the Portland defendants, “who — despite committing serious offenses — never entered the federal courthouse structure, impeded a congressional proceeding, or targeted a specific federal official or officer for assassination.”

This is lying by omission: in Portland they barred the doors shut and then tried to light the building on fire. They also shot fireworks at police officers. 

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Meanwhile, in Utah this month, a federal judge sentenced 25-year-old Lateesha Richards to nearly two years in prison for tossing a pair of basketball shorts onto an overturned, burning patrol car and hurling a baseball bat toward police officers during a May 2020 protest in Salt Lake City. There’s no evidence that the bat struck anybody.

Richards initially was charged with an arson count that carries a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in prison, but she avoided that possibility with a deal under which she pleaded to a charge of civil disorder.

The judge said Richards’ actions were dangerous and put hundreds of peaceful protesters in harm’s way. Richards didn’t start the fire that engulfed the police vehicle, but she did “add fuel to the flames,” he added.

Defense attorney Alexander Ramos, who had pushed for the judge to sentence Richards to the one year in jail she has already served, said the Floyd protesters appear to be getting even more scrutiny than comparable “run-of-the mill” cases. 

“If it didn’t have this political background, I think more people would have been let out,” Ramos told the AP.

Wow, it sounds like she hardly did anything.... ?

Given how many lies there already are in this article, and the complete lack of cites, this summary can safely be regarded as bullshit. She's right where she needs to be. 

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On the same day in May, Kelsey Donnel Jackson traveled to downtown Charleston, South Carolina, with a cousin to join a protest over Floyd’s killing. Hours later, as other protesters began flipping tables and taunting police officers, Jackson lighted a shirt on fire and tossed it onto the trunk of a vandalized police car.

Jackson also vandalized businesses and public property, assaulted two people and streamed a video of himself on Facebook Live in which he held a handgun and made threatening statements about police, according to prosecutors.

He was sentenced this summer to two years in prison after pleading guilty to maliciously damaging a police vehicle with fire. 

Jackson’s lawyer wrote in court documents before his sentencing that many people who stormed the Capitol “with the clear intent to disrupt a session of Congress and overturn a lawful election” were charged only with misdemeanor offenses.

“We do not make reference to unrelated conduct in other jurisdictions in order to minimize (Jackson’s) conduct and culpability, but rather to point out that similar (and more egregious) conduct that was very obviously intended to intimidate law enforcement and interfere with government operations has been treated in a less heavy-handed manner elsewhere,” his attorney wrote.

This is the false equivalency champion of all time. 

"My client just assaulted two people, destroyed private property, destroyed public property, brandished a firearm and threatened to kill police officers. He should get the same sentence as people who went to the capitol and just walked around."

How fuckin stupid does a person have to be to post shit like this and think that it's woke? 

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Richer reported from Boston, Kunzelman from College Park, Maryland, and Billeaud from Phoenix.

Those are 3 really stupid pieces of shit.

Beave: Your source has been exposed as absolute garbage that makes CNN look almost news-like. You would have more credibility if you said that you read tea leaves and tossed chicken bones. 

You will never find anything on Fox News that's as unintelligent and dishonest as this steaming pile of leftism. 

 

 

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On 12/17/2021 at 6:48 AM, BeaverFever said:

The anti-Trump protests weren’t trying to storm the Capitol, overthow the government or overturn the results of the election   They were just protests in the street  False equivalence, once again  

It probably doesn't help that everyone believes they're standing up for American values. Most everyone seems to know two wrongs won't make things right but they must also think the three will.  Maybe that's the tragic logic that was behind Kyle Rittenhouse's thinking.

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On 12/17/2021 at 11:55 AM, WestCanMan said:

More lies and stupidity. 

Trump sent out many messages asking for peace within the first 90 minutes.

How many times did Obama call for peace in 3 full years of rioting? 

Your double standard is pathetic, but at least you're consistent. 

As already stated send out a couple of tweets doesn’t count as taking action or doing something. Responding by Tweeting is pretty much the definition of doing nothing and if you weren’t such a gullible brainwashed little worshiper of that idiotic failed ex-president you wouldn’t be trying to claim otherwise. He also tweeted messages   And his weak tweets didn’t even condemn the rioting, in fact he egged them on by repeating his lies and his accusations against pence. 
 

Its also a lie that Obama never tweeted anything during the BLM riots   Just like you lied about the supposed George Floyd bodycam footage that completely exonerated the now-convicted murdeer cop. But this is a red herring argument because we’ve already established that simply tweeting about something is not a response