Should Toronto bid for the 2036 Olympics?

[impartialobserver]

I see no issue with it. However, the game has changed. The Olympics are no longer as lucrative as they used to be. 

[Nationalist]

No! Toronto should hire more cops and get rid of those Gawd Damn bike lanes.

[exPS]

On 8/2/2021 at 12:33 AM, Zeitgeist said:

Should Toronto bid for the 2036 Olympics?

100% an absolute NO!

Obviously the Olympics is a make-work project where they build new facitities each time they have them. Use the old ones that were there before! Especially for the short duration.

And those that argue it is self supporting, great, use your own money and not the tax payers money. How many cities have gone into the hole for the Olympics.

[paradox34]

No! Absolutely not!

[August1991]

On 4/28/2023 at 1:05 PM, impartialobserver said:

I see no issue with it. However, the game has changed. The Olympics are no longer as lucrative as they used to be. 

Montreal has the stadium.

Paris and London have held two.

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Heck, let's waste more. Quebec has a Videotron Stadium. It needs another bridge?

Let's make Quebecers waste even more time!

Edited November 16, 2024 by August1991

[CdnFox]

On 8/2/2021 at 4:19 PM, Zeitgeist said:

I actually think the Olympics have a lot of value beyond the monetary value of their television rights and ticket sales.  It inspires youth to aim high and creates a culture of high standards that impacts other areas of the economy, if handled well.  

Yeah but it's going to do that no matter where it's held.

I've heard of countries or cities benefiting from hosting Winter Olympics, but I don't ever remember anybody throwing about the financial benefits of our summer olympics. And that committee is corrupt as the day is long. I'm no expert so I can't say one way or another for sure but I would be very cautious.

[NAME REMOVED]

Hard no.

Most cities have become wise enough to know the economic costs of hosting the Olympic Games (especially the Summer Games), is a money losing proposition. It's got to the point where only two cities were prepared to bid on the next two summer games, and the IOC awarded them to LA and Paris, considering no other city bothered to compete to host the games, and they did not want to face the very real possibility that nobody was going to bid on the 2032 Olympics, so they pretty much gave them to Brisbane, Australia. 

This is certainly a far cry from the 80s/90s, when up to a dozen cities would be bribing IOC officials in hopes of landing the games for their city. 

Edited November 16, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Zeitgeist]

On 11/16/2024 at 1:23 AM, CdnFox said:

Yeah but it's going to do that no matter where it's held.

I've heard of countries or cities benefiting from hosting Winter Olympics, but I don't ever remember anybody throwing about the financial benefits of our summer olympics. And that committee is corrupt as the day is long. I'm no expert so I can't say one way or another for sure but I would be very cautious.

I agree that these are big ticket items, even after compensation from the sale of television rights.  For me there has to be some city building benefits.  The PanAm Games gave the GTA a velodrome and some improved infrastructure by the Don River.  If we got more subways, sports facilities, and other legacy projects that add to the city, I’m all for it.  Also it boosts the city’s international profile, tourism, and athleticism within Canada.  We would need careful contracting to prevent price overruns.  We don’t seem to be able to inspire anymore.  We haven’t built a fast modern intercity rail line. It seems to take decades to build infrastructure that we used to build more cheaply in a few years.  

[impartialobserver]

on the subject of Toronto.. hopefully the locals are not too spiteful for my trip there in September. If the tariffs are actually put into effect and allowed to run their course, I can see the need to lay low. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

on the subject of Toronto.. hopefully the locals are not too spiteful for my trip there in September. If the tariffs are actually put into effect and allowed to run their course, I can see the need to lay low. 

Keep one of our phone numbers handy, we'll vouch for you and give the secret maple moose handshake if necessary. You'll be fine. 

Doug ford (premier of ontario) is really really pushing the idea that his people and himself should not be and are not mad at american people in general, he says they're caught in the crossfire between the people of canada and donald trump.  That sentiment should hold for a little while anyway, especially if some americans start standing up against attacking their neighbors 

 

And you thought it wouldn't impact your life who won the election  

[impartialobserver]

43 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Keep one of our phone numbers handy, we'll vouch for you and give the secret maple moose handshake if necessary. You'll be fine. 

Doug ford (premier of ontario) is really really pushing the idea that his people and himself should not be and are not mad at american people in general, he says they're caught in the crossfire between the people of canada and donald trump.  That sentiment should hold for a little while anyway, especially if some americans start standing up against attacking their neighbors 

 

And you thought it wouldn't impact your life who won the election  

Only going to be in town for roughly 38 hours. Still, think I may not want to announce to all near me that I am American. 

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Only going to be in town for roughly 38 hours. Still, think I may not want to announce to all near me that I am American. 

Joking aside, I wouldn't mention it unless it was absolutely necessary to. The fact is there is a lot of hostility right now. 9 and 10 realize this isn't necessarily the fault of the Americans although most are angry that the Americans aren't more up in arms about it, but it only takes that one to ruin your trip.

Put a couple of dabs of maple syrup behind each ear and wear a tuque, you'll be fine.

[impartialobserver]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Joking aside, I wouldn't mention it unless it was absolutely necessary to. The fact is there is a lot of hostility right now. 9 and 10 realize this isn't necessarily the fault of the Americans although most are angry that the Americans aren't more up in arms about it, but it only takes that one to ruin your trip.

Put a couple of dabs of maple syrup behind each ear and wear a tuque, you'll be fine.

Joking not aside... A tuque while at Rogers Centre with 50,000+ (or whatever the capacity) rabid rock fans, starting to sweat just thinking about it. But anyways, should be a fun but short trip. 

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Joking not aside... A tuque while at Rogers Centre with 50,000+ (or whatever the capacity) rabid rock fans, starting to sweat just thinking about it. But anyways, should be a fun but short trip. 

I gotcha fam. 

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[eyeball]

21 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

Only going to be in town for roughly 38 hours. Still, think I may not want to announce to all near me that I am American. 

You probably shouldn't be too concerned, I've had a few Americans aboard the last few weeks and there may be the odd joke about keel hauling or walking the plank but otherwise we leave the politics at the dock and have a good time. That said, I've yet to see a single MAGA hat around the docks or anywhere hereabouts so maybe a Canada is not for sale cap would be a better idea.

I don't think tariffs should affect sport-fishing much, killing fish for fun takes precedence over everything. Unless disallowing US boats from fishing in Canadian waters and being forced to hire a guide becomes one of our non-tariff responses but I doubt that.

Most commercial fishermen aren't looking forward to tariffs except Canadian tuna fishermen who might have our EEZ to themselves. I've heard the US Canada North Pacific Albacore Tuna Treaty might be cancelled - which has been a shitty deal for Canada anyway so good riddance, especially with climate change driving more tuna migration northward.  For years the US has been allowing fewer and fewer Canadians to fish in their EEZ with no limits on how many Americans are allowed to fish in ours. Maybe our DFO is finally growing a backbone. It'll be interesting to see if we have boats out securing our offshore southern border if the treaty is cancelled.

Other possible measures may disallow or otherwise interfere with US boats travelling through Canada's inside passages on their way to or from Alaska. Along the lines of BC provincial government charging fees to truckers going north and south.

As for US tourists though, I get the sense they'll be welcome. I guess it remains to be seen though if something reciprocal occurs in the face of so many Canadians cancelling vacations to or even thru America to other places.

[herbie]

You'd be welcomed for risking the wrath of the MAGAtts for daring to come here. We're well aware The Emperor does not have the support of his people.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

You'd be welcomed for risking the wrath of the MAGAtts for daring to come here. We're well aware The Emperor does not have the support of his people.

That's true the people need to start speaking up a lot more

[impartialobserver]

On 3/8/2025 at 12:24 PM, eyeball said:

You probably shouldn't be too concerned, I've had a few Americans aboard the last few weeks and there may be the odd joke about keel hauling or walking the plank but otherwise we leave the politics at the dock and have a good time. That said, I've yet to see a single MAGA hat around the docks or anywhere hereabouts so maybe a Canada is not for sale cap would be a better idea.

I don't think tariffs should affect sport-fishing much, killing fish for fun takes precedence over everything. Unless disallowing US boats from fishing in Canadian waters and being forced to hire a guide becomes one of our non-tariff responses but I doubt that.

Most commercial fishermen aren't looking forward to tariffs except Canadian tuna fishermen who might have our EEZ to themselves. I've heard the US Canada North Pacific Albacore Tuna Treaty might be cancelled - which has been a shitty deal for Canada anyway so good riddance, especially with climate change driving more tuna migration northward.  For years the US has been allowing fewer and fewer Canadians to fish in their EEZ with no limits on how many Americans are allowed to fish in ours. Maybe our DFO is finally growing a backbone. It'll be interesting to see if we have boats out securing our offshore southern border if the treaty is cancelled.

Other possible measures may disallow or otherwise interfere with US boats travelling through Canada's inside passages on their way to or from Alaska. Along the lines of BC provincial government charging fees to truckers going north and south.

As for US tourists though, I get the sense they'll be welcome. I guess it remains to be seen though if something reciprocal occurs in the face of so many Canadians cancelling vacations to or even thru America to other places.

My other options were chicago and New York City. But have never been to Toronto and have always found it interesting. Also, price of hotels in Toronto is less than NYC. 

Interesting info. 

Edited March 10 by impartialobserver

[impartialobserver]

On 3/8/2025 at 6:14 PM, herbie said:

You'd be welcomed for risking the wrath of the MAGAtts for daring to come here. We're well aware The Emperor does not have the support of his people.

A few ardent Trump supporters that I know have started to question his indecision on tariffs. 

[herbie]

Saw a Reddit post today asking if it was "safe" for an American nurse to come to BC to work.

"Safe"? Like maybe if you wear a MAGA hat people will sneer as you walk by and won't hold doors open for you. What kind of propaganda were they fed?
There's a chronic shortage of doctors and nurses, we're inviting them to come FFS.